Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Don't expect any kind of safety net when you get old :-/ ..

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 03:55 PM
Original message
Don't expect any kind of safety net when you get old :-/ ..
Edited on Fri Jul-28-06 04:03 PM by nam78_two
My understanding of economics is kinda rudimentary but thats how I read this:

http://money.cnn.com/2005/11/27/markets/pensions_hedgefunds/


NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) - Pension plans that are facing a growing number of retirees are seeking bigger returns by pouring billions of dollars into hedge funds, investments that may be risky, a news report said Sunday.

Hedge funds, the secretive investment pools once open only to wealthy individuals, are lightly regulated and often invest in instruments that make their risks hard to assess.

To me it seems like the problem with the endless growth-based economy as opposed to a stability based one, is you cannot let these hedge fund/derivative bubbles burst.
And so you need to keep shunting more money into them and I guess they would rather take risks with the money that would have gone towards retirees than anything "more important"? :(

Of course the WaPo has helpful suggestions for when that happens :sarcasm: - 47% of people over 70 have to work because they can't afford to retire?
Thats a dirty rotten shame IMO...why can't we treat our elderly better? They deserve so much more than this.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/26/AR2006072601814.html?sub=AR


While their article about retirees in the US is quite upbeat, not quite the same with Japan's elderly :
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/27/AR2006072701856.html?nav=hcmodule


Its a damn shame...

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Lowell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 04:01 PM
Response to Original message
1. The way things are set up now
the government, and private companies with pensions, are hoping we all die before we ever get to draw a dime. My company ceased their pension plan last year saying that we already had a viable 401K plan that would take care of our retirement, if we managed it well. This is a cop out. It also an example of privatization. They want everyone to invest heavily in the market with the expectation of making a bundle on our "strong economy". We are simply lining the pockets of the Wall Street Money Barons at the expense of traditional pensions. Fortunately in my own case I have my pension and the 401K plan to fall back on. They could quit offering the pension plans, but they couldn't figure out how to take it all back. Fuck em.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
demosincebirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 04:15 PM
Response to Original message
2. Unless you belong to a union, be prepared to live on SS, only
Thank God for my union!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 04:37 PM
Response to Original message
3. Unless you contribute to your pension plan, it's Imaginary Money
unless and until you start collecting it.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 07:28 PM
Response to Reply #3
4. good point/nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Apr 25th 2024, 09:50 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC