interesting discovery about Cynthia McKinney's website...

[wyldwolf]

... no idea what it means. All theories at this point welcomed...

http://www.cynthiaforcongress.com/

the WHOIS information reads as:

Registrant:
Citizens for Conservative Values
Candi Lane
4150 Snapfinger Woods Dr Suite 204
Decatur, GA 30035
US
Email: [e-mail]

http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/index.jsp

Who is "Citizens for Conservative Values?"

[Mojambo]

1. That is strange.

I wonder what the deal is?

[napi21]

2. I don't know, but that doesn't sound like McKinney at all!

I did a google search on CFCV's and it referenced Gwinett County Ga. Library. Decatur is in Gwinett Cty, but that's the only link I found.

[Thirtieschild]

9. FYI, Decatur is in DeKalb Co, not Gwinnett

[napi21]

41. Sorry, I live in Hall, and thought Gwinett went down to Decatur.

[POAS]

3. A google search reveals

that they also support Ken Blackwell, Repuke running for Governor of Ohio.

[MrBenchley]

4. Very interesting, no?

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060409/NEWS01/604090398/-1/all

Could the darling of DU's far left fringe be nothing but a Republican dirty trick?

[wyldwolf]

7. so, just on the chance the WHOIS record is legit...

...this means McKinney has (gulp!) Diebold connections!

[MrBenchley]

10. I doubnt her brain-dead boosters will care...

It didn't boither them that she's an anti-semitic loony....

It didn't bother them that she called Al Gore a racist.....

It didn't bother them that she slapped a cop and became a national laughing stock....

I doubt this is even going to be a speed bump along Delusion Drive....

[acmejack]

19. You missed ythe worst one of all!

WHERE SHE SAID THE DLC SUCKED BIG GREEN ELEPHANT COCKS...

[Lerkfish]

24. although, actually, I think that wasn't really lying.

:)

[LincolnMcGrath]

29. lol She ain't the only one to diss the dlc.

Know what I mean Vern?

[MrBenchley]

31. Cynthia and Acmejack sitting in a tree.....

[UDenver20]

78. Amen Brother...

She's a nut

[QuestionAll...]

121. it bothers Me that Certain People Here

seem to have such a Poweful Agenda against one of the few honest and outspoken voices in Congress. A voice that has dared to bring up subjects that most spinelessness ones wouldn't dare come near to.

yep, should bother some others as well.

as far as the WHOIS info goes, I have no idea.
Could be as simple as she didn't know who her webmaster was associated with.
Someone should actually email her and let her know.

[Cookie wookie]

51. right. n/t

Geezzzzzzzzz. The smears against Cynthia get more and more outlandish as the runoff approaches.

Bizarro world.

[Lerkfish]

21. or, it could be a disinformation campaign, to provide fodder for

"centrist" dems to slander mckinney.


wha? hey, it worked like a charm! Look who came of the woodwork to trash the "left".

[wyldwolf]

36. but it isn't.

Either the WHOIS info has been hacked OR it is accurate.

But you would think that if someone were to hack into a site, the McKinney site would be an easier target that the WHOIS database which is very secure.

Regardless, it IS her official campaign site.

[MrBenchley]

50. No fodder needed, she's a fucking disgrace

Of course, her boosters are equally disgraceful....

[wyldwolf]

5. the record has to have been hacked.

[LincolnMcGrath]

6. And you are certain that is her site?

http://www.house.gov/mckinney/



Some other nastiness from the dirty hucksters. http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/15114366.htm

[wyldwolf]

14. yes. It is her campaign site. Your link is her congressional site.

[LincolnMcGrath]

18. Sorry, I meant the whois info

[wyldwolf]

20. well, like I said, it could be hacked. My guess it that it was...

...but you can check the whois yourself.

[bananas]

22. Nothing there says it's her official site or even endorsed by her

It just says "Cynthia McKinney for Congress 2006"
There's nothing which states it is her official site,
and there's nothing which says it's endorsed by her.
I bet it's a fake site.

[wyldwolf]

28. its her campaign site

From 2004:

http://web.archive.org/web/20040322054619/http://www.cynthiaforcongress.com/

[Lerkfish]

30. and, the domain could have expired and been bought up by someone

else.

;shrug: happens all the time.

[MrBenchley]

32. Or the dog could have eaten her homework!

[Lerkfish]

34. yup, could have.

what's your point?

I'm only rationally bringing up alternate possibilities.

apparently that interrupts your witchhunt flow.

[LincolnMcGrath]

37. Funny how a whois info page just happened to be discovered tonight?

:shrug:

[SOS]

101. Not tonight

This was posted at a DLC blog last Friday.
Under the "True Democrat" article blasting McKinney.
It was there 2 hours ago, now off the main page.
Exact same "whois" info, copied from Network Solutions.

http://georgiaunfiltered.blogspot.com/

ON EDIT:

Found the original URL from the DLC blog, complete with Whois copy:

http://georgiaunfiltered.blogspot.com/2006/07/what-exactly-is-true-democrat.html

[MrBenchley]

40. Try and sound a little more desperate

So far it's a BIG laugh.....

"apparently that interrupts your witchhunt flow"
I leave witch hunts to the dimwits on the far left. You know, the ones who stick up for an anti-Semitic loony who seems to be a Republican dirty trick.

[Lerkfish]

42. LOL! thanks for elevating the conversation, as usual.

buh-bye.

[MrBenchley]

43. Yeah, you and acmejack are such elevated conversationalists

LOL!

[Name removed]

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[MrBenchley]

48. Hey, don't cry to me because the tem fits.....

"I know you are the kind of person who would have nothing at all to say face to face."
Damn, you must be one manly mofo! Slap a cop for Cynthia today!

[wyldwolf]

33. nope!

here she is referencing the site in an interview from 2004:

http://www.playahata.com/pages/interviews/interview_cynthiamckinney.htm

..and from WHOIS:

Domain Name: cynthiaforcongress.com

Created on..............: Tue, Nov 04, 2003
Expires on..............: Sat, Nov 04, 2006
Record last updated on..: Thu, Nov 03, 2005

[Lerkfish]

35. thanks!

I was bringing up a possibility. I did not have access to actual information.

[Fridays Child]

8. This is interesting...

An article lists Phil Burress as the head of Citizens for Conservative Values, so I Googled his name and it took me to a link, www.ccv.org, Citizens for Community Values. Did he change the group's name for some reason?

[LincolnMcGrath]

12. The link you had before went to a James Dobson site

[Fridays Child]

16. Phil Burress is named as the head of Citizens for Conservative Values...

...but when I Googled his name, I got Citizens for Community Values. And that site was registered by a David Miller of "Equal Rights Not Special Rights." He's the VP of ccv.org.

[msongs]

11. REad what she says about her opponent (isn't he a dem?) ->

Quote: "The media and money behind my opponent will do their utmost to polarize the election along racial and party lines. To win, they must provoke a stampede of Republican voters to the polls on August 8th. To accomplish this, they must and will portray not just my voice, but yours too, as dangerous, unpatriotic and downright loony"

Msongs
www.msongs.com/howarddean2008.htm

[GAPeace]

91. Denise Majette who unseated her for 2 years was voted in by GOPers

Republicans can vote in the Democratic Primary in Georgia. It's a dirty tactic.

[wyldwolf]

93. ...and Democrats. Majette went on to have one of the more liberal records

...in Congress without the McKinney theatrics.

[skids]

95. You must have missed the ad at dkos...

...where Hank Johnson indulged in some major negative campaigning tactics. Not saying anything other than this could shape up to be a dirty campaign on both sides.

The ad caused some controversy on Daily Kos (scroll a few articles down):

http://www.dailykos.com/tags/Cynthia%20McKinney

[bananas]

13. There's a phone number on the contact page

If someone in the area wants to call and find out who they are:
http://www.cynthiaforcongress.com/contact.php
Phone:
[phone]

[wyldwolf]

17. sounds like a recording of McKinney urging people to the polls

[Lerkfish]

15. anyone can register a domain name

do we know that site is sanctioned by the mckinney campaign?

I can register www.georgebushisgod.com

(if someone hasn't already). That doesn't mean I think that.

It PROBABLY means its a disinformation tool, meant to drive wedges between democrats.

[LincolnMcGrath]

25. Thats more likely than the tin foil conspiracy nut plots put forth so far

She's a mole!



:rofl:

[wyldwolf]

26. It IS her official campaign website

In fact, the archived version from 2004 is at the same domain.

[win_in_06]

23. She's a nut case and harmful to the party

[Lerkfish]

27. riiiiiiiiight.

so, is this payback to people against Joementum?

some people are mucho transparento.

[win_in_06]

39. I take it you think she is good for the party?

[LincolnMcGrath]

44. The Congressional Black Caucus felt good enough about her to let

her speak on the Voting Rights Act.


I'm sorry, which Democrat is it with the special Karl Rove teflon coating that is immune to his attacks?

[MrsT]

54. Didn't she miss voting for the VRA?

Or am I thinking of someone else?

[LincolnMcGrath]

57. I do not believe so.

Party Yes Democratic Neil Abercrombie, Gary Ackerman, Thomas Allen, Robert Andrews, Joe Baca, Brian Baird, Tammy Baldwin, John Barrow, Melissa Bean, Xavier Becerra, Shelley Berkley, Howard Berman, Marion Berry, Timothy Bishop, Sanford Bishop, Earl Blumenauer, Dan Boren, Leonard Boswell, Rick Boucher, Allen Boyd, Robert Brady, Sherrod Brown, Corrine Brown, G.K. Butterfield, Lois Capps, Michael Capuano, Ben Cardin, Dennis Cardoza, Russ Carnahan, Ed Case, Ben Chandler, William Clay, Emanuel Cleaver, James Clyburn, John Conyers, Jim Cooper, Jim Costa, Jerry Costello, Bud Cramer, Joseph Crowley, Henry Cuellar, Elijah Cummings, Lincoln Davis, Artur Davis, Susan Davis, Danny Davis, Jim Davis, Peter DeFazio, Diana DeGette, Rosa DeLauro, William Delahunt, Norman Dicks, John Dingell, Lloyd Doggett, Michael Doyle, Chet Edwards, Rahm Emanuel, Eliot Engel, Anna Eshoo, Bob Etheridge, Sam Farr, Chaka Fattah, Bob Filner, Harold Ford, Barney Frank, Charles Gonzalez, Bart Gordon, Al Green, Gene Green, Raúl Grijalva, Luis Gutiérrez, Jane Harman, Alcee Hastings, Stephanie Herseth, Brian Higgins, Maurice Hinchey, Rubén Hinojosa, Tim Holden, Chris Van Hollen, Rush Holt, Mike Honda, Darlene Hooley, Steny Hoyer, Jay Inslee, Steve Israel, Jesse Jackson, Sheila Jackson-Lee, William Jefferson, Eddie Johnson, Stephanie Jones, Paul Kanjorski, Marcy Kaptur, Patrick Kennedy, Dale Kildee, Carolyn Kilpatrick, Ron Kind, Dennis Kucinich, James Langevin, Tom Lantos, Rick Larsen, John Larson, Barbara Lee, Sander Levin, John Lewis, Daniel Lipinski, Zoe Lofgren, Nita Lowey, Stephen Lynch, Carolyn Maloney, Edward Markey, Jim Marshall, Jim Matheson, Doris Matsui, Carolyn McCarthy, Betty McCollum, Jim McDermott, James McGovern, Mike McIntyre, Cynthia McKinney, Martin Meehan, Kendrick Meek, Gregory Meeks, Charles Melancon, Michael Michaud, Juanita Millender-McDonald, George Miller, Brad Miller, Alan Mollohan, Dennis Moore, Gwen Moore, James Moran, John Murtha, Jerrold Nadler, Grace Napolitano, Richard Neal, James Oberstar, David Obey, John Olver, Solomon Ortiz, Major Owens, Frank Pallone, Bill Pascrell, Ed Pastor, Donald Payne, Nancy Pelosi, Collin Peterson, Earl Pomeroy, David Price, Nick Rahall, Charles Rangel, Silvestre Reyes, Mike Ross, Steven Rothman, Lucille Roybal-Allard, Dutch Ruppersberger, Bobby Rush, Tim Ryan, Martin Sabo, John Salazar, Loretta Sanchez, Jan Schakowsky, Adam Schiff, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Allyson Schwartz, Robert Scott, David Scott, José Serrano, Brad Sherman, Ike Skelton, Adam Smith, Vic Snyder, Hilda Solis, John Spratt, Pete Stark, Ted Strickland, Bart Stupak, Linda Sánchez, John Tanner, Ellen Tauscher, Gene Taylor, Mike Thompson, Bennie Thompson, John Tierney, Edolphus Towns, Tom Udall, Mark Udall, Nydia Velázquez, Peter Visclosky, Maxine Waters, Diane Watson, Melvin Watt, Henry Waxman, Anthony Weiner, Robert Wexler, Lynn Woolsey, David Wu, Al Wynn

[MrsT]

59. What about this thread?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2416868

That's what I remembered seeing (I admit I don't know many congressmen and women very well.

[LincolnMcGrath]

60. "a vote on an amendment to a bill" Not the Bill Itself.

Nothing more than her opponent grasping for straws, imho.

[MrsT]

61. Ok. Thanks.

[Lerkfish]

45. No, you should take it I find some people's agendas transparent.

anything else is leaping to conclusions.

However, if I were to start attacking dems who I felt weren't "good for the pary", the black caucus and Ms. Mckinney would be way down my list.

I find it interesting antiwar and left leaning democrats aren't considered "good for the party", even though the majority of democratic voters support their positions. Go figure.

[acmejack]

49. What is your idea of a congressperson who is "Good" for the party?

Just curious, you seem to have such clear cut ideas on what is good and bad for us. Please do share the benefit of your wisdom with those of us not so blessed...

[Cookie wookie]

52. Exactly how does she harm the party?

Examples please. Does the Democratic party look worse because they have someone who is outspoken against Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, the Carlyle Group, etc. etc.

She makes them look good to me. Too bad more aren't like her.

[MrBenchley]

53. Call for Nancy Drew!

Yeah, how could a cop-slapping anti-Semitic loony make us look bad?

[Cookie wookie]

55. Well, let's see.

Smear smear smear.



McKinney stands with protestors during a House Armed Services Committee meeting
On Wednesday July 12, 2006, Cynthia McKinney stood with Code Pink protestors during a House Armed Services committee meeting. The committee is hearing testimony about the detainees at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. For a picture and more information, see the Star-Telegram article at http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/news/nation/15028170.htm


Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney's Bills Introduced in the 109th Congress:

H.CON.RES.274: Reaffirming the continued importance and applicability of the Posse Comitatus Act
Reaffirms the continued importance and applicability of the Posse Comitatus Act (that prohibits the use of the Army or Air Force as a posse comitatus to execute the laws except under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress)
H.CON.RES.405
Opposing any agreement between the Government of the United States and the Government of Nigeria to deploy United States Armed Forces to Nigeria
H.R.2099: Arabia Mountain National Heritage Area
Establishes the Arabia Mountain National Heritage Area in Georgia and provides for a management plan
Prohibits using Federal funds made available under this Act to acquire real property or an interest in real property.
Requires the management plan to provide for the protection, enhancement, and interpretation of the natural, cultural, historical, scenic, and recreational resources of the Area. Requires the plan to be based on the preferred concept in the document entitled "Arabia Mountain National Heritage Area Feasibility Study" (February 28, 2001)
Authorizes the Secretary to provide financial and technical assistance to the Area to develop and implement the plan
H.R.2297: Arabia Mountain National Heritage Area
H.R.2554: Rev. Dr. MLK Jr. Records Release Act
To provide for the expeditious disclosure of records relevant to the life and assassination of Reverend Doctor Martin Luther King, Jr.
Directs the National Archives to commence establishment of a collection of records to be known as the "Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., Records Collection" at the National Archives
Sets forth provisions for the: (1) review, identification, transmission to the National Archives, and public disclosure of records related to the life and assassination of Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., by Government offices; and (2) postponement of public disclosure of related records or particular information in such records
Establishes the Martin Luther King Records Review Board. Provides for the appointment of an Executive Director to such Board
H.R.2690: Voter Choice Act of 2005
Authorizes a state entitled to more than one Representative in Congress to establish a number of districts for election of Representatives that is less than the number of Representatives to which the state is entitled, as long as the Representatives are elected: (1) under a system meeting the constitutional standard of majority rule and of individuals having equal voting power; (2) the system ensures the election of any candidate in a multiseat district who receives a share of votes cast that is at least one vote greater than one-third of the total number of votes cast in the district; and (3) the number of residents per Representative is equal for all Representatives elected in the state
Establishes a program under which the Election Assistance Commission shall make grants to eligible states to defray the costs of administering an instant runoff voting system or a proportional voting system
H.R.3998
To provide farm debt and program relief to African-American farmers who suffered discrimination in the administration of Department of Agriculture farm credit programs and other agriculture programs, and for other purposes
Forgives all indebtedness, in connection with all farm operating loan program debt agreements entered into with the Department of Agriculture pursuant to the Consolidated Farm and Rural Development Act, and requires payment of the minimum relief raised in the combined cases Pigford et al. v. Glickman and Brewington et al v. Glickman, with respect to each African-American farmer who: (1) was an "actual farmer" during the period beginning on January 1, 1981, and extending through December 30, 1996; and (2) applied for, but failed to receive, farm credit program debt relief pursuant to specified federal law or through the Black Farmer Settlement as authorized by the previously mentioned cases
H.R.4139
To minimize harm to populations impacted by the release of environmental contaminants, hazardous materials or infectious materials in the aftermath of Hurricanes Katrina and Rita by providing for a Comprehensive Environmental Sampling and Toxicity Assessment Plan (CESTAP) to assess and monitor air, water, soil and human populations, and for other purposes.
H.R.4209: Gretna Act
Calls for condemnation of actions of the City of Gretna Police Department, the Jefferson Parish Sheriff's Office, and the Crescent City Connection Division Police Department in Louisiana in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina (preventing civilians fleeing New Orleans from entering Gretna).
Makes the Gretna law enforcement agencies ineligible to participate in any federal program for one year. Requires:
The suspension of any federal license issued to those agencies during that time
Such agencies to immediately return all federally-owned equipment in their possession or use.
H.R.4210: Tupac Shakur Records Release Act
Directs the National Archives to commence establishment of a collection of records to be known as the "Tupac Amaru Shakur Records Collection" at the National Archives
Requires the Archivist of the United States to enter into an agreement with the Tupac Amaru Shakur Center for the Arts in Stone Mountain, Georgia, for the establishment of a secondary location for a complete copy of the appropriate part of the Collection, not including physical artifacts
H.R.4279
To re-designate the Federal building located at 935 Pennsylvania Avenue Northwest in the District of Columbia as the "Frank F. Church Federal Building"
H.R.4968
To provide for the expeditious disclosure of records relevant to the life and death of Tupac Amaru Shakur (Same as above)
H.R.5303: Depleted Uranium Munitions Suspension and Study Act
To require the suspension of the use, sale, development, production, testing, and export of depleted uranium munitions pending the outcome of certain studies of the health effects of such munitions, and for other purposes
H.R.5376: Transparency and Responsibility for United States Trade Health Act
To require nationals of the United States that employ individuals in a foreign country to provide full transparency and disclosure in all their operations
H.R.5377: Corporate Code of Conduct Act
To require nationals of the United States that employ more than 20 persons in a foreign country to implement a Corporate Code of Conduct with respect to the employment of those persons, and for other purposes
H.R.5378: Corporate Welfare Reduction and Job Preservation Act
To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to reduce by 50 percent certain tax benefits allowable to profitable large corporations which make certain workforce reductions.

http://www.cynthiaforcongress.com/issues_legislation.php

[MrBenchley]

84. Well, let's see.....

She's an anti-Semitic loony who campaigned with Louis Farrakhan, called Al Gore a racist and slapped a cop.

So how many of those bills got passed?

[Cookie wookie]

58. Exactly what are the sources and facts

especially in light of the FACTS of McKinney's work that you can use to back up your charges of "loony" and "anti-Semitic"?

[MrBenchley]

86. I'm not going to tell you.

Now go stew about it.

[daa]

38. Interesting

Blackwell defensive about stocks
Inside Columbus
BY JON CRAIG | ENQUIRER COLUMBUS BUREAU
COLUMBUS - Secretary of State Ken Blackwell's campaign for governor was in defensive mode last week when his annual financial-disclosure statement revealed he owns stock in companies that produce slot machines, voting machines, tobacco and the morning-after pill.

Blackwell's opponents quickly cried foul, since the Cincinnatian is against abortion and gambling.

In addition to Diebold, the election-machine vendor from North Canton, and International Game Technology of Nevada, Blackwell's multi-million-dollar portfolio includes stock in Halliburton; Weatherford International, a Houston-based oilfield company that moved to Bermuda to avoid paying U.S. taxes; Altria, the tobacco-producing company formerly known as Philip Morris; and Barr Pharmaceuticals, maker of Plan B, the morning-after pill.


But Blackwell's supporters weren't ready to sell him out.

Phil Burress, president of Cincinnati-based Citizens for Conservative Values, said, "His enemies are going to try to make something out of this. His friends are going to look at it to see if the iron man of integrity made a mistake.

"And those who know him know that he would never, ever, under any circumstances, knowingly do something or invest in something that's contrary to his values. That's why he has the support of the value voters,'' Burress said.

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060409/NEWS01/604090398/-1/all

[Cookie wookie]

56. Transcript of Representative Cynthia McKinney's Exchange

with Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Richard Myers, and Under Secretary of Defense (Comptroller) Tina Jonas, March 11th, 2005

Sec. of Defense Rumsfeld in House Hearing on FY06 Dept. of Defense Budget
Chairman Representative Duncan Hunter (R-CA) and witnesses Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and JCS Chairman General Richard Myers hold a House Hearing on the FY 2006 Budget for the Department of Defense and Military Services.
3/11/2005: WASHINGTON, DC: 2 hr. 5 min.

CMK: Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney (D-GA)
DR: Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld
RM: Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Richard Myers
TJ: Under Secretary of Defense (Comptroller) Tina Jonas
DH: Chairman Representative Duncan Hunter (R-CA)

25:20
CMK: Thank you Mr. Chairman. Mr. Secretary, I watched President Bush deliver a moving speech at the United Nations in September 2003, in which he mentioned the crisis of the sex trade. The President called for the punishment of those involved in this horrible business. But at the very moment of that speech, DynCorp was exposed for having been involved in the buying and selling of young women and children. While all of this was going on, DynCorp kept the Pentagon contract to administer the smallpox and anthrax vaccines, and is now working on a plague vaccine through the Joint Vaccine Acquisition Program. Mr. Secretary, is it policy of the U.S. Government to reward companies that traffic in women and little girls?

That's my first question. My second question, Mr. Secretary: according to the Comptroller General of the United States, there are serious financial management problems at the Pentagon, to which Mr. Cooper alluded.

Fiscal Year 1999: $2.3 trillion missing.

Fiscal Year 2000, $1.1 trillion missing.

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/031505_mckinney_transcript.shtml

[Lydia Leftcoast]

62. But gee, wyldwolf and Mr. Benchley, if Cynthia McKinney

really is a Republican mole, and not REALLY a "far left looney," but an enabler of Republicans like Joe Lieberman or Zell Miller, that should make her a goddess in your eyes.

[wyldwolf]

63. gee, Lydia Leftcoast ...

Where have I said she is a Republican mole?

You're kind always makes it personal.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

64. Yeah, like calling people "fringe leftists" and stuff

:eyes:

[wyldwolf]

65. where did I call you that?

[Lydia Leftcoast]

66. Yeah, you never called anyone that

:eyes:

Not ever. Nor has Benchley, right?

You probably weren't around in Minneapolis in the 1960s, so you won't understand when I say that you and Benchley are the Prizeword Petes of political discourse. Still, it is a perfect analogy.

[wyldwolf]

68. not you

..and not anyone unless they personally attacked first.

[LoZoccolo]

98. I will say that there are fringe leftists out there.

Someone on another board I'm not allowed to mention, a left-wing board, was saying that they hope a bunch of us moderates (I was named with several others) get deported to a "right-wing bantustan" after the "revolution" if there ever is one, along with having our property expropriated. Scary stuff.

[wyldwolf]

99. I call it "Left Rage"

Amazing the reaction you get when you disagree with them enough.

[LincolnMcGrath]

67. You're kind ?

You're kind?

Minnesotan?

[wyldwolf]

69. bet you've been waiting to make this thread personal, huh?

You know, there are anti-DLCers and pro-DLCers and those who are nuetral. She falls into the first category.

[LincolnMcGrath]

70. Nice edit, but no, I could care less of your involvement

or not in this thread.

You can't trust Minnesotans either.

[wyldwolf]

71. could have fooled me. cause here you are diverting the thread...

[wyldwolf]

72. and by the way ... nice edit

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2746494&mesg_id=2746510

[LincolnMcGrath]

74. Thank you for pimping my post above!. I had added the Miami article.

I didn't scrub the subject line...

[wyldwolf]

76. So?

[LincolnMcGrath]

77. YOUR welcome

or something

[LincolnMcGrath]

73. Apparently I did fool you then?

2 things;

a.
the fact that I would be the first person you accuse of making things personal in this thread speaks volumes about you.

b.
You post "You're kind" then presume to try and tell us that you don't apply labels. Where is the diversion?



Please...

[wyldwolf]

75. two things

a.

You're NOT the first person I accused of making things personal in this thread, and you saying so speaks volumes about you.

b.

I never said I didn't apply labels, and you saying I did speaks volumes about you.

[LincolnMcGrath]

79. Actually in post #63 above you stated "You're kind" blah blah yada

Which means you are kind. :hi:

In closing,

I guess you meant your kind? but none the less, you didn't come right out and say it to her like you just were itching to do as in the case with me.

And you can argue semantics till your keyboard falls apart for all I care.

[wyldwolf]

80. you're repeating yourself

Like I plainly said, I NEVER said I didn't apply labels.

[LincolnMcGrath]

81. YOUR kidding.

You're kind.

[wyldwolf]

82. no, I'm serious

Post 75, "I never said I didn't apply labels." See it for yourself. In post 68, I said, "..and not anyone unless they personally attacked first.'

Oops! I edited! Not mad, are ya?

[MrBenchley]

85. You'll notice that Lydia can't actually single out Republicans

when she wants to bitch about politicians....

[wyldwolf]

87. I did.

[Name removed]

88. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[MrBenchley]

92. This thread definitely deserves a kick....

[LoZoccolo]

97. When did wyldwolf or Mr. Benchley support Zell Miller?

Or any moderate here?

Don't go there or I might start red-baiting.

[sleipnir]

83. Why is the email not through the domain? This smells funny.

Basically, if you have a pro register the site, they will set it up with a verified email account and then change it over to an account with the domain name.

I don't know what's going on, but something is fishy. Either the WHOIS is illiget or McKinney really has lost it or went with the cheapest contractor for the website (who happened to be a conservative company.)

[wyldwolf]

89. hmm. Ned Lamont's WHOIS e-mail contact isn't throught the domain.

[madfloridian]

90. That group is mentioned in this article.

I have not read it all yet, just doing some searching.

http://www.cleveland.com/householder/plaindealer/index.ssf?/householder/more/34.html

And in this one:
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/15114366.htm

They sound busy and devious.

[skids]

94. Might be an internal mole. Before anything else, Cynthia must be told.

Before anyone goes off half cocked -- oops, too late :eyes: -- someone needs to contact Cynthia and make sure she is aware of it. It could be the case that this reveals a repug mole within her own campaign organization.

Or we could just spam it around the blogosphere without even letting them in on it and infer that the entire campaign is a mole itself based on nothing more than a domain registration. :eyes:

How they respond to inquiries about it might be a better way to gague at what level this happenned. May I suggest handing it off to someone willing to do legwork on the story, e.g. raw or brad or pitt?

(Another less dramatic possibility is that this group squats domain names and then extorts candidates to use them, and they decided to pay the ransom.)

Though I must say, good find. This should be an intriguing adventure to say the least.

[wyldwolf]

96. You need to understand a few things about this...

1. This was discovered Thursday by a Georgia blogger with deep ties to Democrats in GA. I have a feeling that the McKinney camp has been notified.

2. The WHOIS database can be changed by a site owner, and will update rather quickly. If the DNS entries were wrong, they could have been changed by now. They haven't been.

[blue collar welder]

100. Repugs want McKinney

to win. I mean our side wants nothing to do with her,the Black Cacaus thinks she a joke, nobody wants to get near her. So the Repugs want her to win,they can her show off like some kind of thug after hitting that cop and she has no merit with in the party. Think about it....would you want some one who will be taken in by the party and get something done or have a "waco". If I was on the other side I'd be sending in a butt load of cash to make sure she wins.

[LWolf]

102. DLC Team Tag Attack Alert!

:rofl:

This thread is a perfect example of DLC operatives "swiftboating" progressives in their own party.

I think I'll withhold judgement at this point. If the DLC doesn't like a democrat, it's usually a pretty good signal that they have something worthy to say.

[wyldwolf]

103. LOL!

Oh, the irony!

[LWolf]

104. Yes!

Irony seems to be one of the words used as a "talking point" by posters who don't want to cross too far over that shifting line in the sand that deletes a post for personal attacks!

:rofl:

[wyldwolf]

105. if you have a problem with how the mods do their jobs, tell them

[LWolf]

106. No problems here.

I wasn't referring to myself, lol.

[wyldwolf]

107. interesting

conspiracy theories on how DU is moderated...

[LWolf]

117. Oh, you have some?

I didn't know we were talking about DU moderators, or how DU is moderated. I was mentioning that some posters have "interesting" ways of sidestepping personal attacks that would not be allowed under DU rules.

Wow. What an interesting trip this little conversation has been; from my amusement at the original topic, to irony, to criticism of moderators that never took place...I feel like I've stepped through a rather Orwellian looking glass.

Do you always converse in this manner?

[wyldwolf]

118. yes, here's one:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2746494&mesg_id=2750050

[LWolf]

130. A misinterpretation at it's best.

:eyes:

[New Earth]

108. .....

if someone figured out how to get into her site host account, they can change the WHOIS information in there and it will be effective within a minute. All Cynthia (or her team) needs to do (if this info is correct) is go into the host account and change it back to the correct information. (and then of course change the password so it's not hacked again)

If someone figured out the password to her site's hosting account, they can change this information extremely easily.

I think this is some kind of set up, something is very very fishy about it.

And I think this "she's bad for the party" is bullshit -- her reputation may be one thing, but the things she does, the way she votes, and what she stands up for by far make up for it.

[NYCGirl]

110. Isn't the WHOIS information kept at Network Solutions? Not McKinney's site

Network Solutions keeps records of all websites.

[New Earth]

111. i've done my own before

i've changed the info on my sites and checked the WHOIS and it showed up right away.

[NYCGirl]

112. You have to apply to Network Solutions to get a domain. They're the

ones who do the WHOIS lookups.

[New Earth]

114. there are quite a few companies/sites that do this

[NYCGirl]

115. Yes, they'll register with you and host your site, but it still has to go

through Network Solutions.

[New Earth]

116. i don't understand what you mean

[NYCGirl]

119. I'm sorry. I misspoke. The name I meant to use was Internic — they are

the people who keep the WHOIS info.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internic

[New Earth]

120. the information doesn't come directly from her site

it comes from wherever this domainhistory.domaintools.com site gets their info, which is most likely, where all WHOIS sites get their info. whether it's from Network Solutions or whoever, i don't know. But this site i posted can tell you what changes have been made to the WHOIS info.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2746494&mesg_id=2750231

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

109. :7)

:rofl:

[New Earth]

113. if anyone has $15 we can get to the bottom of this

i wish i had the money, if anyone really wants to find out what's going on, i think i know how it can be done. i can tell you this much. here are the dates of when the WHOIS info. on Cynthia's site were updated:

* indicates a significant change in the whois records
2006
2006-07-31
2006-07-29
2006-07-28
2006-04-11

2005
2005-06-17*

2004
2004-05-27*



So it has been changed in the last few days. If anyone cares enough to get to the bottom of it, register here and pay for one month membership: http://domain-history.domaintools.com/

[New Earth]

122. if 2 other people are willing to contribute $5

i'll contribute $5 to get the membership and see the changes that were made :shrug:

i really hate people that start this kind of shit, we all have to know how much the Republicans want all Dems to turn their back on McKinney. :eyes:

[New Earth]

123. hmm....

how come ever since i posted this, everyone got quiet? :shrug:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2746494&mesg_id=2750231

[wyldwolf]

124. Everyone didn't get quiet

This thread has been on the first page for three days, and at least 10 people have posted to it since you made your post.

Although the point you're making is valid, I might also draw your attention to this:

* indicates a significant change in the whois records

2006-07-16 *
2006-07-10 *
2006-07-07 *
2006-07-05 *
2006-07-02 *
2006-06-29 *
2006-06-20 *
2006-06-13 *
2006-06-08 *
2006-05-17 *
2006-05-16 *
2006-05-12 *
2006-05-11 *
2006-05-08 *
2006-05-03 *
2006-05-01 *
2006-04-25 *
2006-04-24 *

This is the same info for DemocraticUnderground.

[New Earth]

125. can you please state again

exactly what day it was that Kos or whoever reported this about her WHOIS info? Was it on 7/28?

[wyldwolf]

127. I read it Friday afternoon - and I think you may have missed the DU info..

... I edited in.

[New Earth]

128. and

the domain history shows a change on 7/28, Friday.

[wyldwolf]

129. so?

I showed WHOIS information changes happen often.

I know the point you're making, and it is valid. But DU's info was updated on Friday, too. So was Yahoo's.

[SOS]

132. But they happen once a year at McKinney's site (except this weekend)

At cynthiaforcongress.com there was one change made in 2004.
There was one change made in 2005.
There was one change made in 2006.....until Friday.

The previous three years are most likely small changes associated with the annual renewal.
Yet starting on Friday there have been three changes.
And this was "discovered" on Friday?

Cynical Geek has some comments about his stunning discovery:

I have no idea what the truth is. I just decided to do a DNS lookup for curiosity's sake. To say the least I was shocked at the results.
By CynicalGeek, at Friday, July 28, 2006 4:38:49 PM
You better hurry if you want to investigate. I'm not able to query the records at dnsstuff.com using the tool I was using. Perhaps DNSStuff is having problems, or perhaps someone is removing the info now.
By CynicalGeek, at Friday, July 28, 2006 4:45:38 PM
Sorry for the flurry of posts, but the registration information is back now (through DNSStuff.com) but the website is still down (www.cynthiaforcongress.com.) I expect the "problem" will be magically be resolved over the weekend.
By CynicalGeek, at Friday, July 28, 2006 4:56:48 PM

He has a web site. Perhaps he will reveal more about his sleuthing there?

www.cynicalgeek.com

[orleans]

126. April Fools! (?) n/t

[cannonfire]

131. I called the Cynthia McKinney campaign...

...and this business came as something of a shock to the
person who answered the phone. However, I was promised that
the campaign manager would get back to me with an answer.

Personally, I don't see much use in airing -- here and now --
the wide variety of opinions that people hold toward
Representative McKinney. We have a mystery. We should to find
a resolution. That's that.

[The empressof all]

133. lock

This thread has become flamebait