Frame the Issue****Republicans RAISE TAXES on the Middle Class.

[bvar22]

Like Thieves in the Night, the Republican Party passed an another obscene tax bill that gives the 7500 RICHEST people in America $800 Billion in tax breaks.
Since the Republican Party is running the budget in deficit, the Middle Class will be burdened with making up for this loss in revenue.

Last night, The Republicans stole $800 Billion
from your CHILDREN
and gave it to their RICH friends!

This is how the Democrats need to attack that shameful performance of the Republican Party last night.

[LincolnMcGrath]

1. Hey, we've got people defending that joke of a vote.

[zann725]

2. And tax collection will be privatized(with all the IRS personnel cutbacks)

...so debtor prisons are not far away. Seriously.

[LincolnMcGrath]

You're correct about that.

The IRS will be further gutted until the point that it can be drowned in a bath tub. Then only working folks will pay taxes.

[rodeodance]

3. that's what friends are for.

[indepat]

4. No obscenity ever uttered is obscene enough to adequately describe this

travesty or all those responsible.

[gulliver]

5. We ought to campaign on DOUBLING the estate tax.

Go on the record for doubling the estate tax on people with estates over $100 million. When the GOP freaks out about the "tax increase" (gasp!!!!), obliterate them on the deficit-disguised theft that has occurred under Bush and the rubber-stamp GOP. Make it a fight and people will look. Keep it a dreary siege, and we will continue to lose.

On edit: Deleted first paragraph. It just said the same thing as the second, and the second was clearer.

[MissWaverly]

6. this is just a Rove ploy folks; it's going on to the Senate

If the Senate Dems kill it; then the Rovettes can claim they're against minimum wage, if
they pass it, the Dems are in favor of robbing the poor to spoil the Rich. It's a lose/lose
bill for the Dems, I personally would pass it if it was me, and after they win the house
rescind it in December.

[bvar22]

7. I agree, its a ploy,

but the Dems CAN use it to attack the Republicans if they frame it properly.
In TRUTH, the Republicans voted to RAISE TAXES on people who Work For a Living!
Somebody will have to pay the bill for a $800 Billion gift to The Rich!

[MissWaverly]

9. well, of course, it's all for the haves and have mores

Some people call you the have and have mores, I call you my base.

[gulliver]

8. I'm with you on this framing, but it has been tried.

The Dems in Congress commissioned a report to expose the GOP on this prior to the 2004 election. It proved beyond any doubt that the GOP had shifted taxes onto the middle class, yet it had no effect on the election. People are too innumerate and politically passive to catch this subtle con.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A61178-2004Aug12.html

Also, I am wary about joining the GOP in crying foul about "RAISING TAXES" even if it is on the middle class. We should not frame this only as a case of raising taxes. The Republicans are immune to hypocrisy charges, and voters don't get the abstraction of boiling down the GOPs deficit-hidden embezzlement to a tax increase.

That is what the GOP is doing of course. We get it at DU. Joe Public won't, I'm afraid.

[MissWaverly]

10. we should just do what they do, focus

we should promise tax cuts, and do tax cuts for the blue collar folks and the middle class!

[gulliver]

12. Kerry tried that, along with a rollback of Bush's tax cuts for the rich.

I think it struck a chord, but it didn't win the election for us. However, that was then and this is now. Bush and the GOP are much more vulnerable this time, but it looks like taxes are not part of the Dems' "Six for '06" agenda at this point.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/07/27/campaign.2006/

At least I don't see taxes in there...

[MissWaverly]

14. No, he didn't try that

He said he would tax the rich, when I heard that, I thought there goes the election, we don't mention the rich, did Karl Rove have George Bush say we are going to tax the blue collar
and the middle class to death just to give corporations and the rich the well deserve
privilege of the elitist class. No, no and no, We just say the following, we believe in
the little guy, and we want to give working poor and the middle class a break, by xxxxx.

[gulliver]

15. He really did.

Link. http://www.johnkerry.com/plan/

Strengthen the Middle Class.
As incomes decline and costs rise, families are having a hard time paying their bills, let alone saving for tomorrow. Health care costs are up by nearly 50 percent, college tuition has increased by 35 percent, and gas prices have skyrocketed. A Kerry-Edwards administration will provide relief to middle class families by cutting taxes and investing in health care and education.

I think the middle class needs a break, but not from the government. The government is not that bad a deal for the middle class. They get more out of it per capita than they pay into it. The middle class needs a break from GOP wars, GOP-greased corporate outsourcing, and GOP 200-proof corporate corruption.

[MissWaverly]

16. What I am saying that although he meant well,

he should not have kept up the mantra, tax the rich, the top 2% have 98% of the resources
in this country. We do not want them to stampede in mass to support the GOP. Just announce
tax cuts leave it at that. We don't need spread sheets or 20 point plans. Just get up,
give 8 talking points, shut up, milk the crowd, Bush and Arnold run on slogans, they talk
with slogans, they never get up and tell people how they plan to cover costs, etc.

[bvar22]

11. That got burried in 2004.

The middle class (joe sixpack)is NOW feeling the Economic Pinch.
The Republican Party has been engaged in Class Warfare since the '80s.
It is time we joined the fight.
Say it LOUD and SIMPLE.


Its time for The RICH REPUBLICANSto pay
their FAIR share!


The 7500 RICH Republicans who stole $800 Billion
from the children of those who Work for a Living!


Time to take the gloves off.

[gulliver]

13. What you said!!

:-)

[Olney Blue]

18. Where did you get that picture of Rove?

:scared:

[bvar22]

20. Its a composit:

Tom Delay, Jerry Fallwell, and Karl Rove.





:rofl:

[Olney Blue]

21. OK, I'm definitely having nightmares tonight!

:rofl:

[Starkraven]

17. K&R

Totally agree.

[indepat]

19. No budget worries for the AMT on the middle class will soon kick in

[midnight]

22. How many tax cuts do the folks with all the money need?

Isn't it economically in this countries interest to give everyone some money to spend. That way the money gets spread around more evenly.

[orleans]

23. i heard charlie rangel say 800 billion and i googled it today

and could only find articles touting 300 & some billion

can anyone find me a link for the 800 billion?

(either way it sucks--300, 800, fucking pukes fucking us over every way you turn)

[oldboy101]

24. When will the people wake up?

I find it appalling that the Republithugs think that they can get away with this. Yet they HAVE been getting away with it, big giveaways for their wealthy supporters while starving programs intended to assist those in need.

How much longer will it take for the American people to wake up and realize what is going on? Are we like frogs in a kettle who remain there peacefully as the heat is gradually brought up to a boil?

I fear that by the time we all wake up it may be too late!