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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 12:08 AM
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Lieberman Tries The Smear
Uh, oh.
Lieberman tries the smear
By Stirling Newberry

Word from a commenter on mydd.com, and confirmed from a source on the ground is that either the Lieberman campaign, or his proxies, are blanketing African-American churches with fliers that imply that Ned Lamont is a racist. It is the final meltdown in the hysterical last days of Joe Lieberman's attempt to hold on to power inside the Democratic Party.

Lovely.

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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 12:09 AM
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1. Sounds like a republican tactic to me.
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Sam Odom Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 12:11 AM
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2. Everyone should wait and see
if this pans out to be true. IMHO
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 01:35 AM
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15. Do you even have a clue as to what you're talking about??
What do you mean "wait and see"? Do you think we Ct. Dem voters don't check out these things before we cast our votes? Wait and see indeed!! We are not fools, nor fooled by this type of campaign smear. We KNOW who we are voting to elect, BEFORE we vote!! Give me a break!!!:rant:
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 01:56 AM
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19. I think Sam was urging caution about the flier story
It doesn't look to me that he said anything about Lieberman or foolish voters.
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 02:09 AM
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21. Did either you or Sam read the entire news (blog) article?
I got the impression he was saying, "wait and see if it's true if he gets elected" If I had any doubts about this at all, reading the whole article has me totally convinced that the flier story is true!!
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 03:09 AM
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23. I guess I'm a bit more cynical about stories than you are
Edited on Mon Jul-31-06 03:11 AM by Cronus Protagonist
I don't believe anything I read about in the press now, and I don't trust Liverman either. I especially don't trust "a source on the ground" as much as the article writer does. Show me the flyers with Liverman's fingerprints on them and I'll believe it.

It's not beyond Liverman to try to get the sympathy vote by being "wrongly accused" if you know what I mean...

:evilgrin:
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Sam Odom Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 03:09 AM
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24. Correct n/t
n/t
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GAPeace Donating Member (314 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 12:12 AM
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3. "The Screwing of Cynthia McKinney" becomes the "Screw of
Ned Lamont." Unfortunately I see Lamont getting through his primary because of his money but Cynthia may fall due to a media blitz by the right wing of both the Republicans and Democrats.
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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 12:15 AM
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4. McKinney is going to fail because she is an embarrassment..
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GAPeace Donating Member (314 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 12:16 AM
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6. Everyone's using the same word
It seems almost -- parrotted and not given any real thought.

Having seen her speak 3 times, seen the Sundance-award winning film on her, and having met her, I have to say that she is a progressive lion and is controversial because she tries harder than most to get at the truth by any means necessary.
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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 12:27 AM
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8. The word is used because it is the most appropriate.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 01:50 AM
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17. The word is used because it's a Republicon meme that's been planted...
...so the good guys will do their dirty work for them once again. THAT's the embarassment.

NGU.


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11cents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 12:28 AM
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9. A former congressional staffer I know ....
...who worked with McKinney (but not for her) said that she's absolutely terrible at providing services for her constituents, and is abusive to her staff.

If she loses it won't be because she's "controversial" nationally but because she's a lousy public servant for the people of her locality.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 01:52 AM
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18. A friend of whose cousin's accountant's aunt?
:rofl:

If she loses it won't be because she's "controversial" - it will be because Progressives are doing Rove's dirty work for him.

NGU.


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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 02:18 AM
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22. She is definitely in the wrong occupation then
Congress, by any means necessary, tries to obscure the truth (mostly just flat out lies nowadays)

Btw, if she looses her seat I would be willing to bet that this would not be the last we from her. The old inspirational of 'the truth shall set you free' is a whole lot more than just words.
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Sam Odom Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 12:17 AM
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7. agree
I dont 'get' the blind McKinney supporters outside of Ga.
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 01:26 AM
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14. It's the same as the Ned Lamont supporters,
that don't live in CT!! By the way, do you live in GA ??, because you certainly don't brag about it in your profile??!!!
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 01:23 AM
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12. OOPS!! You forgot to say ,
In my humble opinion!! I say it's bullshit, IMHO!! She certainly doesn't "embarrass" me!!
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LowerManhattanite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 12:40 AM
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10. It is funny how...
...most of the pro-Lieberman natterers around here are also almost lockstep anti-McKinney as well, and in their zeal to feel good about something...anything in the face of Holy Joe's campaign bed-sh*ttery, they are posting repeatedly in or initiatng "doomed McKinney" threads. Lie down with bigots, wake up in pointy hats I guess.
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 08:53 AM
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28. I am pro-Lamont, but not big fan of McKinney
I have no interest in working against her, she has done some good things. I just don't like her methods. Accusing me of being racist for not liking her is laughable.
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LowerManhattanite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 10:02 AM
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29. Skipos...
I wasn't acccusing you or anyone with a sense of electoral nuance here of being "racist" in not being a big fan of McKinney''s. The woman's got some issues and people are entitld to judge her based on how they feel on those issues. My point was that I (and others here) have noticed a certain "gleeful" bent in reveling in McKinney's potentially losing her runoff election, by many of the same folks who so vehemently come down as anti-Lamont. It is almost as if they have decided to bandwagon onto her own re-election travails as some sort of ""statement" in response to being seemingly unable to stem Holy Joe's free-fall.

I for one generally like McKinney, but if her constituents opt for her to be "up out" in the runoff, then she's outta there. But that race is that race--a not as important one in light of relative influence between a single Senator and a single Representative, and her potential replacement odds are would not cozy up to the GOP with anywhere near the icky frottage Lieberman has evidenced . What I was noting was the newfound "obsession" with the pro-Joe "usual suspects" in giddily trumpeting her demise here. It was a tweak also pertaining to Joe's rightward lurch. If I offended you, or anyone else again, with a sense of political nuance, I am genuinely sorry.

For those on the knee jerk "We lose Joe, so you lose McKinney tip, I apologize for nothing.
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 12:16 AM
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5. We in Ct. are not going to buy it!!
Have you seen any of Ned's TV spots? Surrounded by Black and Hispanic young people, who have been helped by his mentoring, and volunteer teaching in the public schools. It sounds like Lieberman has really "morphed" into Bush, and his dirty tricks too!!:grr:
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MarkDevin Donating Member (529 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 12:44 AM
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11. Lamont was a volunteer schoolteacher in inner-city Bridgeport.
Edited on Mon Jul-31-06 12:45 AM by MarkDevin
You don't see a whole lot of white students attending those schools, Mr. Lieberman--which you'd realize if you ever stepped outside the circle of wealthy elites with whom you feel the most comfortable.

Bye, Joe! Go land a job at the same lobbying firm that employs your old lady.
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 01:58 AM
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20. Hi Mark!! Thanks for the backup!
:toast: DC
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 01:26 AM
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13. Republicans always initiate that tactic...
Edited on Mon Jul-31-06 01:28 AM by LaPera
And as Rove and history have proved, it works.
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josh nelson Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 01:49 AM
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16. Predictable
Lieberman is getting desperate and will try anything at this point.
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formactv Donating Member (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 04:57 AM
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25. what does "on the ground" mean?
Is it significant? Or is it like 'essentially':just filler? And "sooner rather than later?'
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 05:43 AM
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26. All that's left is the phone jamming. Sad, Joe. Real sad. nt
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 06:30 AM
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27. There could be a disconnect if Al Sharpton endorses Ned Lamont. n/t
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 10:04 AM
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30. Anyone here surprised?
If you are, you haven't been paying attention.

Joe MUST go!

TC
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 02:17 PM
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32. Joe must really be worried!!
I got a "canned call" this AM from Bill Clinton (taken from his stump speech for Joe here in CT.) They are afraid to use live callers for fear of what we'll say to them??? I love the big dog dearly, but I think papa bush has rubbed some of the "bubba" off of him!!!
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 02:23 PM
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33. Those robo-calls cost a TON of $$$$
He must be worried -- is right!

I wonder how Clinton will feel when Joe loses and the RNC offers him the Rep. spot, and he takes it? That's the scenario I see playing out.

TC
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 02:39 PM
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34. Well, we'll see if Bill and Hillary keep their word!!
They both promised to support the Dem. nominee!! If they keep their word, I'm OK with whatever Lieberman ends up doing, because everyones "true colors" will come out.
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 10:10 AM
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31. Wow.. if that's true, Lieberman has completely LOST it...
That is right out of Rove's handbook!

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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 03:40 AM
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35. OK -- Here's the Flyer
Talking Points Memo has the Lieberman flyer posted.

The second page of 2.

Everyone can decide for themselves what to make of it.

I would only add that I would immediately resign from a campaign that authorized this in a primary.

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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 04:24 AM
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36. dirty tricks
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Cobalt-60 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 05:09 AM
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37. His Transformation is Complete
He's now a Republican in all but name.
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ihelpu2see Donating Member (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 06:32 AM
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38. Lieberman was on TIC AM yesterday and called Lamont supporters
ideologues and then in the same breath started talking about the terrorist Ideologues in the middle east!!! So a liberal Democrat, a good true dem. can be equated by Joe as a terrorist Ideolouge...... I think he is insane. I mean look at the crap he has supported in the past 6 years alone. Supported some of the most narrow minded judges ever appointed to the SC, a war that did not need to be and much more..
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 06:42 AM
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39. You mean he bucked the trend for Repubs to try to insinuate their opponent
is Gay? Which, on its own, also implies that something is wrong with Gays....that is the current trend in Ohio dirty politics. Smear the opponent AND a large group of people, at the same time.

Bye Bye Joe, you were a drag on Gore (one of the reasons, in my husband's eyes, that Gore lost outside of the vote fraud and the Nader factor...I agree with him), and now you show yourself to be a cretin of first rank.

Hope he has a job lined up....no, I take that back...maybe he needs to spend some time in the real world.
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