McKinney-Johnson Debate - C-Span (Today - 7:30 pm et)

[welshTerrier2]

Debate: Democratic Primary Runoff Debate

C-Span - Monday - 7:30 pm eastern time

Atlanta Press Club
Georgia Public Television
Atlanta, Georgia (United States)
ID: 193569 - 07/31/2006 - 0:30 - NS

McKinney, Cynthia U.S. Representative, D, Georgia (State)

Johnson, Hank Commissioner, D, DeKalb County, GA

Rep. Cynthia McKinney and DeKalb County Commissioner Hank Johnson will debate for the Democratic nomination in Georgia's 4th Congressional District.

Voters in Georgia's 4th District will vote on Tuesday, August 8th in this primary run-off. Neither candidate received the required majority in the July 18, 2006, Democratic primary.

[welshTerrier2]

1. please kick this a few times to spread the word ...

thanks ...

[LWolf]

2. That's 4:30 pm my time.

I'm not done for the day at that point, but I'll check in if I can.

:kick:

[welshTerrier2]

3. they'll probably rerun it again later ...

check www.c-span.org for updates on their schedule ...

[wyldwolf]

4. McKinney might even show up

[welshTerrier2]

5. well, i hope she does ...

frankly, i know very little about these two beyond McKinney's "big mouth" reputation ... i vaguely recall her hosting a hearing on the NO disaster with a bunch of women who testified ... some of it was very moving and i think it was great that she gave them a forum to speak ...

it should be interesting ...

[klook]

6. McKinney is a tireless champion for justice

In this post I outlined some reasons why she deserves our support.

[God Almighty]

16. Cynthia is one of the greatest leaders of all time.

Unfortunately, the Republicans have found that they can get better results by voting in our primaries and by joining our discussions than by winning honestly. I hope that Bush's ace Johnson joins the Bush gang when the convictions are handed down. He's backed by polluters, Republicans and Diebold and anyone voting for him is voting in support of polluters, Republicans and Diebold.

[GAPeace]

18. Don't forget practically the entire media

Which is all overwhelmingly acting in favor of Johnson, because it doesnt pay any attention to McKinney unless she's having a non-scuffle with a cop.

[GAPeace]

14. The good things she does are rarely covered by the MSM

Every 2 years some personal mishap of hers becomes national news. Her standing beside every oppressed people in the world every chance she gets -- doesn't get into the media except in the form of the Sundance-award winning film American Blackout.

[welshTerrier2]

7. kick-o-rino ...

btw, you should be able to watch this on the net on www.c-span.org for those of you who actually did kill your televisions ...

i'm not sure exactly why but watching on the net is considered a little more "pc" ... pun intended ...

[welshTerrier2]

8. it's ...

showtime !!

[wyldwolf]

9. McKinney is the more polished speaker - for sure.

[welshTerrier2]

10. i was totally disgusted by both of them and the panel too ...

there was almost no discussion at all about the issues facing the country ... a minor mention of education and healthcare but nothing substantive ...

99% of that debate was pure attack politics and both the panel and the candidates raised virtually nothing of value ...

there are all sorts of issues facing the country, and i'm sure there are special concerns in their district, but almost nothing of substance was discussed ... the whole thing was about who funded whom or who got or gave special treatment ...

that was absolutely the most pathetic debate i've ever seen ...

[Awsi Dooger]

12. I agree, virtually a worthless debate

Johnson: "Two thirds of her donators are from California and Nevada"

McKinney: "He gets money from Republicans"

They could have played those comments over and over like that Head On commerical, and you wouldn't have missed anything important.

McKinney was generally on the defensive, which can't help her if it's true she is trailing. There was almost nothing of substance but along with the funding issue she was asked to explain missing votes and not participating in debates, prior to the primary. I was expecting much more scrutiny of Johnson's views, and his qualifications to be a congressman.

Seemed to me McKinney was trying to soften her image by smiling plenty and not using harsh terms, or at least not as often as she would normally prefer. Johnson's personality might play a part in that. He's a slow talking Southern black gentleman type, and I don't think it would come across great if someone ripped into him.

[fujiyama]

21. I never did figure out WTF head on is!

Nice to see ya around Awsi. I still like your political analysis.

[Awsi Dooger]

22. HeadOn is mostly wax

It's like taking diluted Chapstick and on rubbing it on your forehead.

Of course, I went thru five or six tubes before figuring that out.

Thanks fujiyama. I like your stuff also.

I don't know if I analyze anything but you can fool people by citing numbers:)

[Dinger]

11. KickarooKyay! (nt)

[God Almighty]

13. McKinney really did well and Johnson should join Repub party

Land fills and Republicans backing him. Yuck.

Cynthia was great. Loved her.

[GAPeace]

15. And conservative Georgia Democrats

The guys who are definitely Republican-lites.

Oh and Neil Boortz. That's worse than a Coulter endorsement.

[snowbear]

17. Howza bout some details on why you feel that way..

Since some of us didn't see it..



edit to add: That was for 'God Almighty' who had a negative opinion on one, and a positive on the other..

[AtomicKitten]

19. My observation.

Having watched the debate, I found McKinney combative and snippy and, although I have no doubt she has been the victim of rampant racism in her lifetime, she has become a caricature of a someone bullies poke with sticks just to hear her go off.

I suspect those other than her most ardent admirers might be put off by her demeanor as well.

This is subjective, an observation, but it wouldn't be DU if I wasn't flamed for my audacity in posting it. Have at.

[snowbear]

20. flame you?

...... not a chance!

[rman]

23. Stances on issues are irrelevant,

aren't they?
What's important is whether or not a candidate is a nice person to have a beer with.

[Orangepeel]

24. they probably don't differ much on the issues

I'm basing that supposition on McKinney's reputation and her support on DU and a glance at Johnson's website.

I understand your point, and it is especially important in general elections, when voters often dismiss true substantive issues in favor of silly ones. (true story -- I was canvassing for Kerry and a woman told me that she was voting for bush because he was "pro-choice." I politely corrected her and she said, "oh. well, I'm voting for him anyway.") But in this case, I doubt McKinney and Johnson would vote differently on much, if anything.

If I were a voter in that district, I would have to base my vote on who I thought would do a better job representing me on fairly superficial issues because I don't believe substantive issues would differ much.

[AtomicKitten]

25. No, issues aren't irrelevant

but I always love dramatic responses nonetheless.

Considering the candidates were throwing feces at each other and nothing substantive was accomplished regarding discussion of actual issues, and considering that Ms. McKinney simply cemented her image of being fractious (deserved or not), if I looked to that ridiculous debate as the basis of my choice on election day, I'd go with the candidate with the less obnoxious demeanor.

Analysis of a debate usually doesn't include which candidate one prefers, at least if one is trying to be objective.

Sorry if my observation of the impression it left puts a monkey wrench in your cheerleading.

[CatWoman]

28. review from today's AJC:

In their first face-to-face televised debate, U.S. Rep. Cynthia McKinney and Hank Johnson, the local politician who forced her into Democratic runoff, traded verbal jabs Monday on her voting record and his past financial problems.

McKinney pounced on Johnson's past debts, including a bankruptcy and overdue taxes, which the inumbent highlights in a new 60-second radio ad. The spot also accuses Johnson of ethical violations while he was a DeKalb County commissioner, claiming he accepted a $1,000 campaign contribution from landfill developers.

The congresswoman appeared at ease throughout the debate, often telling the panelists she was happy they asked a particular question and flashing her wide smile. She often cut in, asking if she could respond to Johnson's charges. The former commissioner, by contrast, appeared more reserved.

http://www.ajc.com/news/content/metro/dekalb/stories/0731metdebate.html

[LincolnMcGrath]

29. Where are all the dlcentrist -zellocrats who denied Hank's sordid

past at now?

You should start a new thread with this I think.

[nickshepDEM]

26. Did McKinney keep her hands to herself?

Just asking...

[LincolnMcGrath]

27. Did Hank break any ethics rules?Did the IRS put a Lien on his jacket?

Just Asking...