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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 10:24 AM
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WILL YOU HELP RUSS FEINGOLD SEND REAL PATRIOTS TO DC?


Dear Online Community,

Contribute Today We are almost there!

Last week I asked you to help fund an expansion of our Patriot Corps program so we could train and hire additional grassroots workers to place on targeted campaigns across the country. With these five additional organizers we would have a total of 20 trained field workers that would help elect more Democrats this fall.

Contribute Now
https://secure.progressivepatriotsfund.com/page/contribute/buildpatriotcorps
Many of you have contributed and we are now very close to our goal of raising $25,000 by the end of July to pay for these added organizers. We need to raise $3,800 by midnight tonight to make our goal. Will you please consider a last-minute contribution to support the Patriot Corps so we can hire five more organizers to help in key races?

Contribute Now
https://secure.progressivepatriotsfund.com/page/contribute/buildpatriotcorps
We're very close to our goal. I thank you for your support to date and ask you one more time for your assistance with this unique effort. If you have already contributed, please forward this message to friends and family who share our goals of electing more Progressive Democrats.

Contribute Now
https://secure.progressivepatriotsfund.com/page/contribute/buildpatriotcorps
We received a tremendous response from people across the country interested in applying for the Patriot Corps. If we can send out 20 organizers instead of 15, we can help make a difference in five more campaigns this fall. Please consider contributing today to help us reach $25,000 by midnight.

Sincerely,

Russ Feingold

Russ Feingold
United States Senator
Honorary Chair, Progressive Patriots Fund
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 11:43 AM
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3. who else finds it odd that ANY type of Russ post is ignored?...
check it out folks, one comment and look what they wrote. When I first started posting at DU (right before last Christmas) ANY post mentioning Russ got voted up immediately. NO ONE was more popular in this forum. Are we now to believe that Democrats no longer care for Feingold? I've been running fund-raising efforts by Feingold, Kerry and Dean from the start and I usually get several willing contributors. Are we now to believe true Democrats no longer care to support the worthy causes of Feingold and others? What does the average reader believe on these questions?
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 01:07 PM
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4. but i'm still not shy about kicking it or posting subsequent fundraisers
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 03:10 PM
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5. it does kinda make one wonder doesn't it? especially long time members...
is this some type of odd cycle at DU? Maybe I haven't been here long enough and DU goes through these phases every time we're only months away from the elections but this is biggest election of all time. I'm sure everyone knows that already though.

Some days the seeds simply fall into rocky soil in ANY garden but a good gardener never quits casting seeds or tilling soil.

The theme of every post of mine until November will be; It ain't over till it's over in November. NEVER SAY DIE!

Hang in there true blues... I bet many of you are having similar issues. Even if I never get another vote or reasonable comment at DU on my OPs, you can bet I'll still kick your OPs up when they're strongly Democratic or something I believe in, like Democracy Thomas Jefferson style.
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 03:55 PM
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6. seems like your talking to yourself, again, Jefferson.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 04:19 PM
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8. oh well, it's intelligent conversation and free... I have a song...
to dedicate to all those sneaky neoconish people who are so intent on winning that they've forgotten the price of their victory is a tyranical police state.

First I was afraid
I was petrified


Kept thinking I could never live
without you by my side


But I spent so many nights
thinking how you did me wrong


I grew strong
I learned how to carry on


and so you're back
from outer space

I just walked in to find you here
with that sad look upon your face

I should have changed my stupid lock
I should have made you leave your key

If I had known for just one second
you'd be back to bother me


Go on now go walk out the door
just turn around now
'cause you're not welcome anymore
weren't you the one who tried to hurt me with goodbye
you think I'd crumble
you think I'd lay down and die
Oh no, not I
I will survive
as long as i know how to love
I know I will stay alive
I've got all my life to live
I've got all my love to give
and I'll survive
I will survive

It took all the strength I had
not to fall apart
kept trying hard to mend
the pieces of my broken heart
and I spent oh so many nights
just feeling sorry for myself
I used to cry
Now I hold my head up high
and you see me
somebody new
I'm not that chained up little person
still in love with you
and so you felt like dropping in
and just expect me to be free
now I'm saving all my loving
for someone who's loving me

I think it might be time for another REAL OP by JG... hehehe.
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antigone382 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 03:59 PM
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7. I have no money to contribute, but I'll kick it for Russ.
(and when I say I have no money...I really mean it, trust me).

I disagree strongly with Russ's position on what's going on right now. However, I believe that he came to that position honestly, as he has seemed to with almost every decision he has made. I haven't found a politician yet with whom I agree on every single important issue, but there are still several whom I respect, and Feingold is definitely included in that number.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 04:26 PM
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9. I didn't agree with him on one Supreme Court nominee but...
He did it exactly as the US Constitution proscribes, instead of voting along party lines. I don't care which party you like, anyone with an ounce of decency has got to respect his character.

He voted for the first appointee but still didn't support Alito, which is VERY telling on the Justice.
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 01:04 AM
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10. i didn't appreciate him supporting sending bombs to Israel.
Edited on Tue Aug-01-06 01:05 AM by Tom Joad
It seems only fair to be able to say that, if someone can say they disagreed with his supporting Bush's surpreme court nominee. Though, tragically, he certainly had plenty of company on the supporting Israel's attack on Lebanon.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 06:01 AM
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11. yeah, I see the mods took away your first comment bashing him...
Edited on Tue Aug-01-06 06:06 AM by Jeffersons Ghost
When you find a loyal Jewish person of proven character, like Russ, who DOESN'T support Israel, let me know... I'm not saying a person like that doesn't exist but they are EXTREMELY rare. I don't have ANY opinion on Israel vs. Lebanon. I believe EVERYONE in America needs to learn to mind their own business, instead of being the world's self-righteous, self-appointed police state. Publicizing that conflict in media, including ONLINE, is like sporting for the US to become more deeply involved in it, as if we had the fresh troops to support such an action. Condi the con and her boyfriend W, are giving it enough attention, without our help.

The only defense neocons ever had for invasion of Iraq is that Saddam, was making his people suffer but they're ALL suffering more today than ever before. At least, they're suffering and dying in a "democracy," right?

on edit: I wish WE still had democracy in America. It's a shame that along with all those jobs, they also exported OUR democracy.

If we want to end World-wide suffering, we've certainly got PLENTY in our $600 BILLION Defense budget to cover the tab. Spreading good will by feeding the starving children of the Earth is a good way to diminishes terrorism. We've got the grain to do it, unless drought from Global Warming, DUE TO BIG BUSINESS POWER PLANTS BURNING COAL, has destroyed it all this year.

Although a mod decided to cover it up, what you first said was a still a lie. Russ has NEVER used money he raised for his Democratic grass-roots movement to support Israel. Accusing him of that type of misappropriation is absurd.
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 09:37 AM
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12. Jefferson, the US is deeply involved in the conflict.
As evidenced by the headlines in the NY Times as just a prime example
U.S. Speeds Up Bomb Delivery for the Israelis
By DAVID S. CLOUD and HELENE COOPER
WASHINGTON, July 21 — The Bush administration is rushing a delivery of precision-guided bombs to Israel, which requested the expedited shipment last week after beginning its air campaign against Hezbollah targets in Lebanon, American officials said Friday....

So mind our own business?? This isn't our business how our tax money is spent? Keep quiet? What kind of democracy you want? Are you passing out blinders? It will be helpful if the US does not discuss this issue? yet people of Lebanon and Gaza and know all about this issue. Every 10 year-old kid in Qana went to bed the other night knowing about this.

As far as it have anything to do with Mr. Feingold being Jewish, that really has nothing to do with this. This is the same tragic policy being promoted by Hastert, Pelosi, Bush and Feingold. It is not about being jewish, it is about supporting this militarist policy of US/Israeli governments. They all oppose pressuring Israel to stop its attack on Lebanon and Gaza. We have only a few people like Dennis Kucinich and Barbara Lee in congress demanding a different policy.

You seem to be completely unaware that their is resistance to this policies on the part in the U.S. Jewish community (see for example Jewish Voice for Peace http://jewishvoiceforpeace.org/ ) or Tikkun, or look to Israel itself, with
Gush Shalom, http://gush-shalom.org/english/ The hundreds of Israeli young people who refuse to serve in the military, and more examples. You'll find more op-eds opposing these policies in the opinion section of Haaretz (mainstream Israeli paper) than you will in the Los Angeles Times.

To say that there is no opposition to these policies is like saying it is extremely rare that "loyal Americans" oppose the attack on Iraq. No basis in fact, but that is certainly Bush's line. Those who promote these extremist militaristic policies of Israel also like to wrap themselves in a flag, and claim any Jewish person or person who cares about Jews, supports these policies. Same kind of lie.

Russ is using this money to win re-election, I did not mean he was sending that $$ to Israel (what do they want with such pocket change!, a few million dollars? you gotta be kidding) However, Feingold and his cohorts (damn near every one of them) wants to send our tax dollars to Israel's military (in the tune of billions! more like it!)

I disagree with this policy, and think it it is not good for anyone. I am not alone. I stand as a loyal human. I will not back down. I will not stop reminding people what policies they are supporting when the contribute to men who support such policies.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 12:00 PM
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13. first let me say the USA has ALWAYS been generous in arming Israel...
so perhaps open your own eyes to history, before attempting to get a speck out of mine. Second, offering a couple of sites does not reflect mainstream Jewish sentament.

More importantly, you originally put forth the notion that donating to Russ somehow economically supported what the Republican majority is doing in Israel but now, since your first post is no longer in evidence, you've changed your position. Your creadibility will remain an issue, until you address why you did and STILL attempt to sidetrack a reasonable fund-raising effort for an honorable man. Do you sidetrack other OPs that strongly support other Democratic leaders?
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 06:04 PM
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15. The ghosts of the children of Qana cry out and proclaim this man has no
honor.
He is a war supporter. Only one of hundreds in Congress, but he is a war supporter. Honor!?! Honor!!

The ghosts of the children of Qana cry out and say this man has no honor, nor does any politician who supports Israeli aggression. This man who worked to speed weapons to Israel, who used his voice not to call for a cease-fire, but instead used it to stand with bush/olmert and letting the bloodshed continue. What kind of honor is that. Let his fortunes rot, let him be broke and homeless. He would be much better off than the victims of his policies in Lebanon/Gaza.





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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 12:11 PM
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14. no, but I'll donate again to the DNC ...
Feingold's actions during the Clinton impeachment makes me a bit wary of him.
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