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DJcairo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 03:42 PM
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To remain viable, do Edwards or Clark have to sweep 2/10
I have a hard time imagining Kerry losing in VA. The latest polls shows him ahead by a sizable margin SUSAin VA and a respectable margin in TN. So, assuming Kerry wins one of these, does that mean it's over for Clark and Edwards?
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King of New Orleans Donating Member (991 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 03:49 PM
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1. I'd think they have to win one of them
The Virginia poll is a little old (pre-SC and OK) so don't know how accurate it is. Though I do agree it'd seem hard to beat Kerry in VA (Virgina isn't totally a Southern state, more a hybrid state like Florida). I'd think Edwards might be better positioned to challenge Kerry in VA. Clark seems to have put time and effort into Tennessee so that seems to be his best shot.

If Kerry won both then it'd be over, barring something shocking.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 03:53 PM
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2. One or the other has to do clearly better, for ex
One of them gets a win and the other does not, or one of them wins both TN and VA.

If the race is not reduced to a two man race at this time then I fear Kerry will roll over everyone. I could be wrong of course. But that would depend on the major news organizations suddenly deciding to report facts instead of B.S. (highly, highly, highly, unlikely)
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 04:02 PM
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3. The problem...
Edwards and Clark seem to be competing for the same vote. Unless one drops, they both lose in the end.
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 04:08 PM
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4. One candidate has to elimiate two at some point
Right now, the race is Kerry v Dean/Clark/Edwards. Kerry seems to have his solid 35-40 percent everywhere. Sharpton and Kucinich fight for their 2-8 percent. And Dean/Clark/Edwards split the remainig 50. This means that Kerry wins every race by at least 10 points and wins the nomination without breaking a sweat.

If it becomes a two-man race, Dean/Clark/Edwards can make a move at the entire 50 percent and maybe make it interesting.

Kerry loves a four-man race because he just has to get his base. A two-man race would force him to work again.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 02:42 AM
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5. No, as long as no candidate gets enough delegates, we're in for a
brokered convention. All the other candidates have to do to keep the nomination open is not let anybody get enough delegates...
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 11:21 AM
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10. Correct. Kerry is currently losing to non-Kerry, 241 to 335
or something like that.
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Hoppin_Mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 02:46 AM
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6. For the good of the country Kerry and Edwards should withdraw -nt-
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 02:55 AM
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7. Seeing as they have no ammunition to use against Bush, I agree.
The war? They voted to give it Congressional approval...AT BUSH'S DISCRESION!

Civil liberties? They supported the Patriot Act. Ever read it? I'd suggest you do. You'd be amazed at what SO many Dems voted for.

Education? They both voted for NCLB which wasn't only a failure because Bush refused to fund it. The legislation is fundamentally flawed in that it actually provides LESS support to the schools that need it most (those that don't meet standards).


Essentially, we're betting on the economy not recovering. Guess what? If Bush releases oil from the strategic reserve in August, gas prices will go down and the economy will show a bounce right in time for the election. Do YOU really want to bet that won't happen?

This is why I'm looking forward to a brokered convention. If a hundred million Americans can't see the writing on the wall, perhaps a few thousand delegates can. This isn't the year to vote based on unfounded perceptions and soundbites. Too much is at stake. We have to vote smart.
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YouMustBeKiddingMe Donating Member (421 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 02:59 AM
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8. LOL! What logic you have there
How about the ones who can't win a primary drop out.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 11:20 AM
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9. I think we've found an acceptable compromise...!!! __ D O N E _ !!
I think we've found an acceptable compromise...!!!

Kerry and Edwards drop out... and those who haven't won a primary should also drop out.

That leaves us with Wesley Clark, our nominee...! :)
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John_H Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 12:29 PM
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11. I agree. I also think Chimp should resign. Unfortunately, Clark will
have to fight his way into the White House.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 12:31 PM
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12. one for either of them
or strong showings in two.
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