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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 03:11 PM
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I am so disappointed in Patrick Fitzgerald....
:eyes:
(Unless there is recent stuff on that front I am unaware of...:shrug:)

Fitzmas blah..



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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 03:13 PM
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1. Maybe the evidence just wasn't there...
...Fitzgerald has always seemed to be fair. If he can't come up with the evidence, he can't proceed.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 03:15 PM
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2. Maybe it was, and you're just impatient. Understandable though
that may be.
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 03:16 PM
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3. I am just frustrated at the idea of another scandal dying down
Edited on Sat Aug-05-06 03:17 PM by nam78_two
No one taking a real hit and with so much other bad stuff, this just getting forgotten and swept
under the carpet...

so much corruption...so little time.....

The corrupt people just get away with stuff and just keep getting away with it all the time.
So sick of it...
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 03:20 PM
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5. I'm not "impatient"...
Perhaps the OP is, but I'm certainly not.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 03:30 PM
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10. Good to hear.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 03:35 PM
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14. Justice delayed is Justice denied
Edited on Sat Aug-05-06 03:36 PM by MissWaverly
The rumor was that Ashcroft bailed because there was a MOUNTAIN of evidence on the Plame leak. Now 3 years later, well, maybe well just maybe 1 man maybe just maybe will have a trial that is if his lawyer can fit it into his schedule and we all know that his lawyer is a mighty busy man.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 04:42 PM
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21. Ashcroft bailed
because the FBI investigators indicated they suspected Rove of being involved. Ashcroft and Rove had a previous relationship that mandated the Attorney General recuse himself.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 05:13 PM
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24. well, if there was enough evidence to convince
as the eagle flies, it had to be substantial and Rove has not even been indicted
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 06:16 PM
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29. yup\nt
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 04:33 PM
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17. The wagons were circled and the stone wall erected
and everything he subpoenaed was labeled "top secret" and redacted to the point that the only thing not blacked out was the stationery art.

That's my guess. I always said this would be whitewashed, that the White House would obstruct it into oblivion the way they managed with the anthrax mailings.

Remember them? Once they got traced to Fort Detrick's lab, the wagons were circled, the stone wall went up, and the investigation died.

The only way we'll know about any of this stuff is by a genuine relgious converstion of some Calvinist staff member or a deathbed confession by one of the principals.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 07:31 PM
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31. Oh, you mean the Ft. Detrick Lab that is going to
be the new lethal biological weapons development lab, nice to know that the anthrax nutjob has never been caught and probably still has access to all kinds of lethal goodies.
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orwell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 09:08 PM
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34. Are those...
...the WMD's we heard so much about?

Does that mean we will attack Fort Dietrick?



I didn't think so...
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 09:19 PM
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35. yep, chemical & biological weapons of mass destruction
Edited on Sat Aug-05-06 09:30 PM by MissWaverly
Preview of Coming Attractions, coming to a town near you. Who do you think is going to be at
the top of their wish list since Mr. Anthrax always targets Democrats.

I should have been diplomatic and figure that you would be solid gone.
How could I be so blind to think that you would never be hard to find.
From the place of your birth to the ends of the earth I have searched only to find,
only to find, address unknown, address unknown, (The Ink Spots)
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unda cova brutha Donating Member (208 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 03:18 PM
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4. fitzgerald should resign
he didnt doo his job.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 03:21 PM
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6. Upon What Evidence
do you base that conclusion?

*shadow government*
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 03:24 PM
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8. "and by their spelling ye shall know them". doo what?
cool sceenname, btw!

zot
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 03:35 PM
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13. Witty, elehhhhna!
And so' yours sceenname, btw.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 04:34 PM
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19. I like the Beatles.
Beatles, The - Cry Baby Cry Lyrics
(Lennon/McCartney)
Cry baby cry
Make your mother sigh
She's old enough to know better

The king of Marigold was in the kitchen
Cooking breakfast for the queen
The queen was in the parlour
Playing piano for the children of the king

Cry baby cry
Make your mother sigh
She's old enough to know better
So cry baby cry

The king was in the garden
Picking flowers for a friend who came to play
The queen was in the playroom
Painting pictures for the childrens holiday

Cry baby cry
Make your mother sigh
She's old enough to know better
So cry baby cry

The duchess of Kircaldy always smiling
And arriving late for tea
The duke was having problems
With a message at the local bird and bee

Cry baby cry
Make your mother sigh
She's old enough to know better
So cry baby cry

At twelve o'clock a meeting round the table
For a seance in the dark
With voices out of nowhere
Put on specially by the children for a lark

Cry baby cry
Make your mother sigh
She's old enough to know better
So cry baby cry cry cry cry baby
Make your mother sigh
She's old enough to know better
Cry baby cry

Cry cry cry
Make your mother sigh
She's old enough to know better
So cry baby cry

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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 04:40 PM
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20. Thanks For The Smile!
*shadow government*
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Artdyst Donating Member (135 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 03:24 PM
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7. Maybe he came to reailze that his career advancement potential would

be better served by not challenging leading figures of the U.S. power establishment. Maybe he studied Rudi's career and figured out that it's a lot easier, healthier, and smarter to bust "crack" dealers and an occasional "Scooter" type than to risk the debilitating effects of even a low dosage of Anthrax or the hazards of flying in small planes.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 03:28 PM
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9. Highly dubious, considering his track record...
A lot less likely than zealous DUers wanting top Bushies brought to trial, even if the evidence isn't there.

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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 03:33 PM
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11. He's not like corrupt Republican lawyers. If he's quiet it means
he's working hard.

Republican lawyers like to leak "bent" info all the time, because that's what they deal in and are paid for.
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Artdyst Donating Member (135 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 03:40 PM
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15. Say again? I think you are wanting to make a point, but what is it? EOM

nt
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 04:44 PM
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22. Not. n/t
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 06:24 PM
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30. We bought into the hype. He never made any promises. Fitzmas was
a DU creation. And yes, I fell for it too.
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 03:35 PM
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12. look how long it's taking getting 9/11 truth out.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 04:15 PM
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16. I'm willing to wait, not much more we can do
You know we'll have to take back the House and Senate before this investigation moves forward again, don't you?
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 04:34 PM
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18. Um... Libby still has a trial. He at least caught and convicted the blind
sheik. Oh and he put the case together on al Qaeda with the bombings in Africa...which Clinton passed on to Bush.

Guy has done a lot.

Read the Vanity Fair article.
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agincourt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 04:54 PM
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23. Fictitious elections and fictitious investigations,
do not replace a revolution. I keep waiting for a public to fully grasp the degeneracy and criminality of the GOP party, but like the proles in 1984, they just don't get it even when the evidence is there. I wish Americans knew that the REAL threat to the American way of life is the GOP, the televangelist pigs, and their corporate bank rollers. I live in an age when what is obvious is always unseen. Even liberals don't grasp how rotten the GOPigs are.
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Golden Raisin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 05:15 PM
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25. Get in line.
Everyone says Fitzgerald is methodical, slow & careful to the extreme, but this is creeping at a glacial pace. The fact that Rove has gotten off unindicted so far sends an important signal as far as I'm concerned. Having grown up in the 1960's, I'm leaning towards BushCo has something on Fitzgerald and is using it against him (and Rove, etal. are just the kind of hardball-players to use those sort of tactics). If Fitzgerald really has something, he better get it out soon. There's only 2 years left, assuming Bush doesn't declare himself President for Life, in which case he will just shut Fitzgerald's office down.
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 05:26 PM
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26. \The fact that Rove has gotten off unindicted so far\ YUP! /nt
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howmad1 Donating Member (959 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 09:19 PM
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36. Yup
Just goes to prove; big crimes pay big. :mad:
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DisgustedTX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 05:32 PM
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27. Perhaps he is STANDING DOWN?
:rofl:
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LiviaOlivia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 05:59 PM
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28. Concerning this thread: Who ordered the pizzas?
There is a town in Arizona.......
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 11:15 PM
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41. Lots and Lots, It Looks
Don't it?
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LiviaOlivia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 11:48 PM
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43. Amen
Edited on Sat Aug-05-06 11:53 PM by LiviaOlivia
Q= When does right-wing Rovian bullshit become a health hazard?

A=Always.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 07:36 PM
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32. Has he issued a final report or officially said his investigations are
at an end?

Has the fat lady sung yet?
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 07:55 PM
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33. Not as far as I know, but it all seems pretty hopeless
Edited on Sat Aug-05-06 07:57 PM by nam78_two
And I hear Scooter might be getting a pardon too...

How long before he too gets a "medal of freedom" or something a la Tenet etc. etc. :eyes:

No act of corruption should go unrewarded :eyes:
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 09:35 PM
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37. I look for him to be working for Fox News
They have an opening now that we're officially getting a snow job.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 09:37 PM
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38. Yeah, he rolled over at the end
Someone in the WH committed treason, no one will be punished.
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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 10:39 PM
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39. John Dean made what I think has...
...turned out to be a very astute and accurate assessment of Fitzerald's investigation in his open letter of Nov., 05:

<snip>

When Archibald Cox was appointed special counsel -- under pressure from the U.S. Senate as a condition to confirm Attorney General Elliot Richardson -- he immediately recognized what had occurred. While no Department of Justice lawyer was found to have engaged in the cover up, their timidity had facilitated it. Cox was fired because he refused to be intimidated. His firing became a badge of honor for all those who do the right thing, regardless of the consequences.

While I have no reason to believe you are easily intimidated, all I can say is that your investigation, thus far, is falling precisely within the narrow confines -- the formula procedure -- that was relied upon in the first phase of the Watergate cover-up by the Nixon administration.

So narrow was your investigation that it appears that you failed to learn that Bob Woodward had been told of Valerie Wilson's CIA post until after you had indicted Scooter Libby. While I have no doubt you know your way around the Southern District of New York, and the Northern District of Illinois, Washington DC is a very different place.

With all due respect, Mr. Fitzgerald, I believe you are being had. I believe that you were selected with the expectation that you would conduct the narrowest of investigations, and it seems you have done just that...


http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dean/20051118.html
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 11:08 PM
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40. I really like John Dean...
I checked out his "Conservatives without a conscience" book recently and am definitely gonna buy it...
:headbang:
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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 11:22 PM
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42. I really like him too. He's very bright, very high...
...integrity, and obviously has a strong desire do whatever he can as a citizen to wake people up to what this horrible administration is all about. I have great respect for him. I intend to get a copy of his book also.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 12:18 AM
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44. Well, maybe the Bu*h Crime Family threatened to kill everyone
he cared about, so he backed off.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 12:22 PM
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45. I will wait until his report is in.
Based on other investigations he has done, he doesn't let up until he is satisfied he has done all he can. He took out Governor Ryan here in Illinois and it took several years to do.

Buck up and be patient, is my advice. Fitz is a good and honest man.
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