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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 10:16 PM
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Joementum turns to Joenertia. We now need to strip him of his cmttee seats
He Just Quit The Democratic Party
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 10:44 PM
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1. Kick
And from Daily Kos: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/8/8/232426/3046

ACTION TOMORROW: Three Non-Negotiable Demands

1. Remove Joe Lieberman from all committee positions. He is no longer a member of the Democratic Party. He is a member of Connecticut for Lieberman.
2. Remove Joe Lieberman from any listings of Democratic officials. He is no longer a member of the Democratic Party. He is a member of Connecticut for Lieberman.
3. Issue a clear statement supporting the nominee of the Democratic Party, chosen by the Democratic voters of Connecticut.


I've already contacted my Senators.
Feinstein:

Phone: (202) 224-3841
Fax: (202) 228-3954
TTY/TDD: (202) 224-2501

Senator Dianne Feinstein
United States Senate
331 Hart Senate Office Building
Washington, DC 20510

http://feinstein.senate.gov/...

Boxer:

Phone: (202) 224-3553
TTY: 202-224-4264

http://boxer.senate.gov/...
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 10:46 PM
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2. You mean JoeMental...
Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out, Joe...now scram!
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 11:01 PM
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3. Not to defend Lieberman, but no, it's not a good idea
Lieberman was elected as a Democrat for a six year contract in 2000, continues to vote to organize the Senate as a Democrat, and stands a decent chance of winning reelection while calling himself (however oxymoronically) an "independent Democrat", who we'd do just as well defeating without pissing him off personally. I may not like him, but I don't think it's worth rejiggering the standing rules of the Senate over him.

I'll leave party purges to the Ralph Reeds and Mao Zedongs of the world, thank you. It's good enough for me just to kick Lieberman's ass in November.

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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:07 AM
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4. Interesting...
The man himself takes off the Democratic mantle. He, under Connecticut election law, is disallowed from running as a Democrat; thus, no matter what he tries to call himself, he is no longer a Democrat. No one is purging him from the party. He has purged himself.
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dolstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:12 AM
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5. Oh, that's BOUND to win the Democratic Party points with the CT electorate
Essentially, what you are demanding Democrats in the Senate to do is to unilaterally deprive the voters of Connecticut of half their representation in the Senate.

Doing so would only turn Lieberman into a martyr, make Lamont look like a selfish and vindictive bastard, and give the Republicans an opening in the Senate race.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:22 AM
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6. That is ridiculous.
Lieberman would still be allowed to vote as an Independent party member and thus, still represent his constituents. What he should not be able to do is serve on committees as a minority representative of the Democratic party. Why? Because he is no longer a minority representative of the Democratic party.

Quite simply, Lieberman is not now a Democrat.
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dolstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:37 AM
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7. Are you going to kick out Pryor, Inoyue and Salazar too?
They've all pledged their support to Lieberman even if he runs as an independent. Does that mean they're not Democrats either?
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 02:11 AM
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11. Nobody is kicking anyone out of anything.
What drama!!!!

Lieberman does not deserve committe seats afforded to him as a Democratic minority member of the senate because... drum roll... he is no longer a Democrat.
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HuskerDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 02:20 AM
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13. Not kick 'em out, but shame them endlessly. If they do indeed
support an independent over our candidate, one must wonder about their loyalty to our party. Could there be a challenger in their next primary because of such disloyal actions? I would put money on it.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:38 AM
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8. So, WE, the WINNERS, must somehow allow the LOSERS to CONTROL
the leadership position, because otherwise, the LOSERS would be somehow mad and slighted?

What a crock!

How about the LOSERS get out of the way so as not to "deprive the voters of Connecticut, you know, the one who WON, of more than half THEIR representation in the Senate"?

Talking about spinning...

You must be getting pretty dizzy about now!

To answer your ridiculuous fantasy - NO FUCKING WAY.

"holy" joe should bow out and be striped of ALL his assignments so we can honor the wishes of Connecticut's voters who VOTED their choice - LAMONT - and to send a meassage to TRAITORS and APPEASERS of the REPUKE party that such actions will not be tolerated and in fact will be made and example of - as a warning to others who diss the party!

If the Democratic Party leadership doesn't do this, I will have NO RESPECT for them, and will work hard for the defeat of EVERY SINGLE ONE!

Change is comming, get out of the way or be run over...
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CTLawGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 02:10 AM
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10. he should lose his seats until he drops his indy bid
NT
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:42 AM
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9. Seems counterproductive...
Lieberman is still a threat if not taken seriously in the general election...assuming Dodd can't talk him out of running.

This would just hand him a weapon to wield in the campaign. If all goes well he will be gone in 3 months anyway, why go through what might be viewed as some as petty.

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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 02:16 AM
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12. What weapon?
Please be specific. Why should the Democratic party allow Lieberman to retain committee seats that he holds based primarily on the priviledge that he held as a member of that party.

Clearly, Lieberman has rejected the Democratic party by forming his own party. Essentially, he is back to ground zero when it comes to perks, position, and power.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 02:37 AM
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15. Lamont won with 10% of the total vote from 2000...
He still has to convince Lieberman supporters and Inedependents he is the right choice...

People hate pettiness...and taking away Lieberman's committe assignments looks petty...

It's a controversy that is unnecessary, and would take media time away from Lamont...

It's just not smart electoral politics right now...
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 02:25 AM
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14. And Lamont now has a case of "No-Joe Mo-Jo"
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PBass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 03:51 AM
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16. Bump for this:
ACTION TOMORROW: Three Non-Negotiable Demands

AWESOME.
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