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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 06:51 AM
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The "far left"
2 lies are:
If you are against the Iraq occupation then you are from the "far left".
Lieberamn lost solely because of his Iraq stance.

That is what I am picking up from my brief encounters with the mainstream media.
It is just sickening the way they keep the uninformed, well, ignorant.
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 06:55 AM
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1. I don't mind being called "far left."
It doesn't accurately reflect my position, but heck, if that's the worst thing I'm ever called, my reply is, "Yeah? What else ya got?" Many people are scared of _anything_ with a "left" connotation, because they don't know what it means.
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 07:02 AM
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4. We don't mind but...
...we know better.

I guess 60% of the country is "far left".
Yeah right.

I was not trying to denigrate the phrase but merely trying to point out how the MSM tries to discount a very serious, and majority, public sentiment.
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 07:06 AM
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6. Exactly.
I completely agree with you, and I'm glad you started this discussion. A case in point is that I'm probably "far left" of my family of Democrats in Oklahoma, but I'm probably to the right of most liberals in this part of Europe. The people calling us "far left" in the US apparently haven't brushed up against any _real_ leftists.

:thumbsup: Excellent thread.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 07:01 AM
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2. If that means I'm
"far"ther away from the religiously insane constitution hating zealots in this country, that's fine and dandy with me. Far be it for me to challenge their insanity. My "far" left hand will work majic for the "far" left candidates in November. When I die, they'll have to pry the ballot from my cold "far" left hand.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 07:02 AM
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3. Far Left By Today's Standards?
I'm damned proud to be considered "far left" in the current climate. Heck, by today's standards, even Dwight Eisenhower would be considered a flaming Liberal - defending the 91% top tax rate, speaking out about the military-industrial complex, etc.
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 07:17 AM
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7. exactly
"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientist and the hope of its children. This is not a way of life at all; in any true sense. Under the cloud of threatening war, it is humanity hanging from a cross of iron."

President Dwight D. Eisenhower
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 07:28 AM
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9. Can You Imagine If Ike Ran Today?
He'd be skewered as a fringe leftist nut. The swiftboaters would accuse him of faking D-Day. The economists would scream "91% top tax rate? He'll destroy the economy" whereas in reality the US had far better GDP growth under Eisenhower than under either Bush.
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wolfgirl Donating Member (950 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 07:02 AM
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5. Call me a "Far Left" or Loony Left -
My response then is:

By calling me that are you saying that I believe in equal justice for all?
That I believe in upholding the Constitution and its guarantee of equal rights for all? That I believe in a right to privacy and a right to free speech?
Does that mean I believe that war should never be a first option and that the path of peace is the first road one should travel?
Does it mean I want the Church to stay out of politics?
Does it mean I believe in tolerance and understanding?

Since the answer is yes - then go ahead..call me whatever ya want as I will proudly wear the label of Far Left.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 07:21 AM
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8. Not only are you "far left," you're also a "kid."
This 58 year old heard Tweety refer to Lamont's victory as a win for the "blogger kids."
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 07:29 AM
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10. Yeah, right, like they have any real money to put on the table
Anything to stem the tide of panic for the elites in his audience who think that soldiers are just hired help who want to be martyrs and that other people will always pay their taxes so they can buy another humvee.

No, Lieberman lost to voters who have both economical and social substance.
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 07:51 AM
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11. Tweety acts like a baby most of the time
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Jim__ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 08:06 AM
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12. A large percentage of the uninformed are uninformed precisely
because they get their "information" from the MSM.
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 08:14 AM
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13. I am "far left" of the crazy nutbags currently controlling all of the govt
That includes Joe
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 08:22 AM
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14. It is a right-wing talking point used by Lieberman
He is using it to marginalize his opponent and justify his betrayal of the party. It is offensive. Anyone that disagrees with Bush is a left-wing-terrorist-loving-radical. Marginalized and powerless we lay. It has worked for years.

These are the talking points that forced those cowardice Democrats from speaking out against the war from the beginning. We demanded that they shout their disapproval from the rooftops (and do their oversight job) and instead they sat in silence while Bush along with his talking points railroaded the world into this MESS.

We are not radical. We are mainstream as evidenced by this morning's poll: 60% of Americans are against the continued Iraq invasion. They are radical disguised as main stream.

The message the politicians should be getting from the election: sit in silence at your peril.

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