FoxNews Spins It:: Democrats Move Closer to McGovern's Losing Formula

[No DUplicitous DUpe]

Democrats Move Closer to McGovern's Losing Formula
Wednesday, August 09, 2006
By John McIntyre
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,207660,00.html

Snip:
Democrats lost the 2004 presidential election over leadership on national security. Tuesday night's win by anti-war Ned Lamont over pro-war Joe Lieberman, while joyous for the far-left netroots crowd, is a bad harbinger for future Democratic Party prospects nationally in 2008 and beyond.

The closeness of the election only makes the outcome more frustrating for Democratic strategists. Had Lieberman eked out a victory, the Connecticut Senate primary would have been a huge win for the Democratic Party as they would have been able to reap the dividends of all the energy (and voters) Lamont's candidacy had attracted, while at the same time sending a message to the country that the Democratic Party is large enough for pro-war Democrats.

Had Lieberman held on and won, he undoubtedly would be reaching out to left-wing Democrats and pushing further away from President Bush and the Republicans. Instead, Lieberman will now be ostracized from the party and will be reaching out to independents and Republicans while chastising the extremists in the Democratic Party.

Incredibly, for a sitting three-term senator who just lost to a political neophyte, in many ways Lieberman is the guy who comes out of the primary with momentum. A month ago it was not unreasonable to assume that Lamont would have received a significant boost from a win, but the polls seem to indicate Lamont peaked near the end of July. Bill Clinton's July 24th visit may have been more of a turning point than was commonly thought at the time. In my pre-election analysis I suggested that Lieberman's distance from 40 percent would be the best tell on how the three-way would shakeout. With his very solid 48.2 percent, Lieberman is in an extremely strong position to win in November.

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[MethuenProgressive]

1. "It's time to get the war on terror back on track,"

that's the reply to the Repugs we need to use.

[ixion]

2. I'm so freakin' tired of FAUX and their infotainment psycho babble

that I could just :puke:

[Phredicles]

4. It is funny how all the voices decrying the results are coming from

the same direction. And it sure isn't from inside the Democratic party.

[arcane1]

9. unfair and unbalanced n/t

[LeftyMom]

3. But the American public is pretty strongly against the war

making room for pro-war democrats is about as relevant as making room for anti-choice democrats. They aren't a huge constituency and thier commonalties keep them in the party rather than the points where they diverge from the leadership and the platform.

[grytpype]

5. They are scared shitless.

[No DUplicitous DUpe]

6. That was my take, too.

[Richard Steele]

14. They're sweatin' like George Bush trying to spell 'nuclear'.

[Mz Pip]

7. This spin needs to be countered

and fast. It's not just Faux News that is speculating this. I've heard it from long time loyal Democrats who are concerned about this perception.

In 1972 the Vietnam casualty list was much longer. The war had gone on longer, too and people were very soured by the war. However, the anit-war candidate went down in a huge defeat.

I cast my first vote for George McGovern.

Whatever the spin, this has to be countered.

Mz Pip
:dem:

[HockeyMom]

11. You are right

It runs in cycles. Swing to the left, swing to the right. People get fed up with the Party in power, and will vote for CHANGE, not necessarily the person, or even the Party, running.

It's the old "vote the bastards out of office".

[leveymg]

8. Complete inversion of reality.

Look at these numbers for overall satisfaction ratings. I'd say the GOP are where Bush 41 was in 1992: http://www.mydd.com/story/2004/9/4/154842/1919

4. Are you satisfied or dissatisfied with the way things are going in
the United States at this time?

BASED ON TOTAL ADULTS

Satisfied Dissatisfied DK
Current Total 43 49 8 =100
Trends
(7/29-30/04) 36 58 6 =100
(7/8-9/04) 40 54 6 =100
(5/13-14/04) Prisoner abuse
scandal 30 62 8 =100
(4/8-9/04) 36 59 5 =100
(1/22-23/04) 43 52 5 =100
(1/8-9/04) 46 47 7 =100
(12/18-19/03) Saddam's
capture 46 47 7 =100
(10/9-10/03) 40 54 6 =100
(4/03) Iraq War 50 41 9 =100
(9/02) 41 55 4 =100
(7/02) 46 46 8 =100
(9/01) Terrorist attacks 57 34 9 =100
(6/01) 43 52 5 =100
(3/01) 47 45 8 =100
(1/01) 55 41 4 =100
(6/00) 47 45 8 =100
(3/00) 56 36 8 =100
(8/99) 56 39 5 =100
(9/98) 54 42 4 =100
(1/97) 38 58 4 =100
(3/96) 28 70 2 =100
(6/95) 25 73 2 =100
(8/94) 24 71 5 =100
(6/92) Recession 14 84 2 =100
(3/91) Gulf War Victory 66 31 3 =100
(9/90) 37 58 5 =100
(9/88) 56 40 4 =100
(11/85) 51 46 3 =100
(12/81) Recession 27 67 6 =100
(7/79) Energy/Economic
Crisis 12 84 4 =100

Note: Trends - 4/03, 9/02, 6/00-6/01 and 6/95-8/99 Pew Research
Center; 7/79-6/92 Gallup.

[caligirl]

10. Bush went Nixonian the minute he swore to uphold the office of POTUS

[Overseas]

12. Newt Gingrich is back in town -- toss the labels around, gang !

That's his technique. Far left far left far left. Toss the label at your opponents at every opportunity. Too bad the Dems have been too polite to label the Neo-Cons and the Petro-Cons as radical right.

[LaPera]

13. "Pro war" What kind of sick immoral mentality is Fox news spewing now?

[jpkenny]

15. Just think how much better off the country would be had McGovern won.

He was right, you know. Anybody tell FOX this?

[snowbear]

16. Tweety on MSNBC & pundits said the "McGovern spin" won't work..

Not this time..

Not with this war.

Tain't Gonna Happen.

RNC ---->

Majority of Americans --->

[AtomicKitten]

17. They're shaking in their boots.

They know the Dems are energized.

[Cascadian]

18. Bullshit!

It was the Democrats under Johnson that escalated the Vietnam War. It the Democrats' mess which reflected badly on McGovern. This time, it's the Bushite Neocon Republicans that created the mess and all of our country's problems. The Democrats are looking more attractive and now have a golden opportunity to oust the Republicans in 2006 and 2008!


John