I like Joe Lieberman - He should be the Democratic role model

[fuzzypolitics]

Well, let me start a topic that no one will like :)

I like Joe Lieberman, and I think he should be the role model for the Democratic party. He follows his beliefs, has strong convictions, and embodies pretty much everything Democrats strive for. As a bonus, he's willing to take an uncomfortable and unpopular stand to protect our country.

I think it is sad to see the feeding frenzy that has descended on him since he lost the primary. He deserves better...

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[Guaranteed]

1. He's a dirty whore, a loser and a traitor to the party.

Your turn.

[Name removed]

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[Guaranteed]

17. Also, Lieberman had no redeeming qualities as a Democrat.

Note the use of the past tense.

Edit: And he lies and he's selfish.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

23. Out to make friends, huh?

n/t

[LittleClarkie]

27. Ahem. FYI

http://www.democraticunderground.com/forums/rules_detailed.html

Specifically:

"Do not post personal attacks or engage in name-calling against other individual members of this discussion board. Even very mild personal attacks are forbidden."

Word to the wise.

Welcome to DU, btw.

[fuzzypolitics]

31. So it's ok to slander non-members?

So if Lieberman were a member of the forum, the parent post would be in violation of the rules?

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[Guaranteed]

34. What slander? It's all true.

He's a piece of shit corporate whore, he's lost three elections since 2000, and he turned his back on our party.

I'm sorry, where's the slander?

[fuzzypolitics]

39. I'm sorry, where's the proof?

Outside of your assertions?

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[Guaranteed]

47. See post #35 for the short list.

Other than that, to even ask that is laughable.

[LittleClarkie]

37. From the same link

"You are permitted to criticize public figures, who are not protected under our rules against personal attacks. However, if a public figure is a member of our community, that person is protected by our rules and you are not permitted to personally attack that person. (You are permitted to offer constructive criticism of their activities as a public figure.)"

So maybe Joe should get an account, eh?

[Guaranteed]

41. He wouldn't be allowed.

He's not a Democrat. :)

[LittleClarkie]

43. Sure he would. We have Greens here. He just couldn't

campaign for himself, is all.

[Guaranteed]

44. LOL he'd have to campaign against himself. nt

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

2. Well, then...

:popcorn:

[Der Blaue Engel]

3. Okay, good luck with that

:popcorn:

[eleny]

5. And he abandoned the Party...You can have him

[Tom Joad]

6. We need to protect this world from warmongers like Joe.

[fuzzypolitics]

8. To make it safe for warmongers like the terrorists?

Right ?

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[inthebrain]

14. FREEPER ALERT!!!!!!!!!!

http://fuzzy.blog-city.com/


<<<<<<Today Governor Mitt Romney, apologized for using the term "tar baby". Apparently some so-called "Black Leaders" were outraged by the comment, although they didn't seem to be outraged enough to have their names listed in the article. It seems that these "leaders" don't want anyone using words that could have any possible negative connotation for black people -- even if that's not the common usage of the word.
These are the same types of people that lambast officials for using the term "niggardly", even though that word has nothing to do with black people -- it just sounds similar to one they don't like.

So, when are these esteemed black leaders going to protest the manufacture of Oreo cookies? As I recall, calling a black person an oreo is quite derogatory - black on the outside and white on the inside. The modern version of an Uncle Tom...

So where's the outrage for these insensitive, derogatory cookies?>>>>>>>>

Expect a lot of this stuff over the next few months.

[fuzzypolitics]

25. What's a "freeper"? n/t

[nasher]

36. A Bushbot...,a 29%er... the few remaining people who

stand by Bush's failed policies, even in the face of irrefutable evidence.

So are you going to answer my post below? Or troll?

[Guaranteed]

40. Yes, the "backwash," I believe it's been called. nt

[fuzzypolitics]

46. Already answered n/t

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[nasher]

7. He doesn't give two shits about Democrats

why should he be a role model for us?

[fuzzypolitics]

13. What's more important? Country or Party? n/t

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[nasher]

16. You think he cares about the country?

He cares about himself. You know how he hedged his bets in 2000, right? You'll have to explain how that maneuver put his country before his party. In reality, Joe only cares about Joe.

But you aren't really looking to discuss, right? Just trolling?

[iwanmycntrybak]

19. Let's tell that

to all the follow the leader republicans

[AX10]

21. I see that your blog link has suddenly disappeared.

Enjoy your stay while it lasts. I will be supporting General Wesley Clark for President. He knows much more about national security that Joe LIEberman does.

[fuzzypolitics]

29. Just a typo... n/t

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[Renew Deal]

24. Joe Lieberman

Obviously

[fuzzypolitics]

45. I've already given my summary

Aside from the disagreement on the war, I think most Democrats agree with his politics and 18 year record.

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[AX10]

9. The war in Iraq does nothing to protect this country.

[Jed Dilligan]

10. Um

Can you think of a better way of picking political leaders than asking whether or not they support the stupidest, most damaging policy this country has ever pursued?

If so, I'd like to hear it.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

11. Problem is, he's not a Democrat any more.

Joe has become a role model for whiny sore losers who, when voters in their own party decide they'd rather elect someone else, form their own party in order to run against the person representing the will of the majority of the voters.

[MrModerate]

12. As a liberal republican, he's not so bad . . .

But he has done the country a great disservice as a Bush enabler. When you're facing the magnitude of evil and incompetence represented by the republican party today, bipartisanship is not always a virtue. Compromise is a wonderful goal, but you can't compromise with wickedness, deceit, and hypocrisy.

I think he's reasonably sincere, but absolutely dead wrong on key issues. And for that reason needs to be replaced.

His decision to run as an independent also sullies his character and sullies much of what he's done over his career.

[Pierre.Suave]

15. Uhmmm

ok.

Are you one of his new campaign staffers?

[Raster]

18. and I'm sure he will get better once he takes his seat on Carlyle's B.o.D.

His wife already has her cushy lobbying job.

Give it up. He got and is getting EXACTLY what he deserves.

[mediaman007]

20. Not! I'll take Howard Dean, who got knocked down, stepped on and

kicked around. But he didn't whine. Instead, he got up changed direction and we are all better for it!

Howard Dean, someone who knew what had to be done for the country!

[Guaranteed]

22. Now THAT is a role model.

Took one for the team, even in the right.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

26. you're entitled to your opinion

I firmly disagree.

When the voters said no to him, he switched parties

He lied when he said he wouldn't stay in the Senate for 18 years.

He voted for the bankruptsy bill.

He is pro-war

backed the Terri Schiavo mess

his support for allowing Catholic hospitals to refuse emergency contraceptive treatment for rape victims


There's more, like his smarmy attitude... but that's enough, and that's why he's the Loserman

[Dr Fate]

28. He does have strong convictions when it comes to supporting Bush.

But weak ones when it comes to siding with Democrats.

[rpannier]

30. First off...

Welcome to DU. Always glad to see new members.

Second, I admire anyone's ability to take an unpopular view.

Third, I don't like Lieberman because he was the tool that the Republicans and media used to denigrate the Democratic Party. I can't count the number of times that Liebermen was on TV espousing some viewpoint that differed from the majority of the Party and at the bottom of the screen was the little box:
"Divided Democrats." "Democrats Disorganized." etc.
You never see other Democratic Senators doing that. He's been in politics too long for it to be ignorance or inexperience. I just don't think he cared what the Democrats thought. It became about Joe (IMO).

Fourth, I don't hate Liebermen. But, we as a Party can do better and I think we have in Lamont.

[fuzzypolitics]

38. Only took 30 posts to get a reasonable response

Thanks :) I like your approach. You don't have to agree with him -- in fact, no Democrat is required to agree or even like Joe Lieberman.

But the level of uncivility, hostility and downright nastiness directed to Joe is unbecoming of civilized people...

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[nasher]

What do you think about

the "uncivility, hostility and downright nastiness" directed by Joe towards Ned?

[fuzzypolitics]

48. Do you have a specific example or two we can discuss?

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[Berserker]

32. Awwwwww

That war Mongering Bastard got what was coming to him. His loss was just the Beginning of whats to come. Brace yourself DINOs and all bush ass kissers we are coming.

[LittleClarkie]

33. So every Dem should strive to leave the party?

Won't that make the party kinda small? More like a soiree, I suppose.

[Clyde_dubyaD40]

35. Let me see if I've got this right.

He voted for the bankruptcy bill that helps credit card companies and hurts American citizens. He votes for the government to delve into a personal and private family tragedy to score points with Evangelical wingnuts. He helps make the Supreme Court the most radical right court in the history of this country. he votes for an energy policy that gives billions to oil companies that are making record profits on the backs of every American. He lambasts Clinton over a blow-job. And has a passion to swap spit with G.W.B. - Yep you are right - he is one helluva Democrat - NOT!

P.S. Just to name a few

[welshTerrier2]

42. well, you're just a little bit confused ...

how can you make the statement that Lieberman embodies "pretty much everything Democrats strive for"? do we strive for more war? do we strive for an out-of-control military-industrial complex? do we strive for the bush-cheney energy bill that sold out America to Big Oil? do we strive to have our candidates switch parties when they're rejected by the voters? do we strive to have our elected reps go along with an extremist neocon agenda in the name of "bi-partisanship"?

Lieberman might very well possess some of the positive character traits you cited ... that does NOT come within in a million miles of condoning his hideous conduct and his hideous voting record ... he empowered, appeased and coddled the neocon administration that has threatened the entire globe with endless war ...

sometimes you need to look beyond the People Magazine editorials and understand the policies ...

[proud patriot]

49. I'm locking this thread

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