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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 11:31 AM
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Poll question: Best argument against how the reich wing nuts are spinning these arrests?
Edited on Sat Aug-12-06 11:46 AM by norml
Were any Humvees involved in making these arrests?

How about Black Hawk helicopters, were any of those involved?

Did invading and occupying any countries aid in making these arrests in any way?

Was suspending the rule of law, allowing leaders to be above the law, to interpret the law any way they like, to have no review or oversight of their actions to show that they were warranted?

Torture, was the information required to make these arrests obtained by torture, rape, murder?

Was not the information that exposed this plot to blow up airlines, using liquid explosives, provided by a muslim who did not require being tortured in order to provide it?

Were not these arrests a result of what they call "pre-9/11 thinking"?

Did not these arrests result from treating it as a criminal matter, something handled by the police, not the military, following the rule of law, not suspending the rule of law, using diplomacy, not requiring waging wars of aggression or committing crimes against humanity in any way?

So why are the right wing media whores and the puppets they support saying it justifies doing criminally incompetent things which had nothing to do with making these arrests?

Then why are you not making these arguments against their insults misrepresentations and lies?
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 11:43 AM
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1. Iran who we won't talk to has 70 million people
There are 27 million people in Iraq, 27 million in Saudi Arabia, 19 million in Syria, 4 million
in Lebanon and 6 million people in Israel. So you are going to have a foreign policy that
favors the wishes or 6 million people in Israel, while angering the populations of 147 million
people, makes sense to me. Let's brualize the Middle East with bombs and missiles, the
richest nations in the world will not develop horrendous weapons systems and seek revenge,
No, of course not.
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Sinti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 11:43 AM
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2. Just one more thing I'd really like to know
Did they actually have the explosives, or did they just have iPods, an interest in plane tickets, and perhaps some crazy ideas?
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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 12:16 PM
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3. It doesn't take much to make a bottle bomb.
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Sinti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 06:12 PM
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7. I'm aware, but they supposedly had some pure peroxide or something
the notion that they only talked about it, and didn't buy the materials bothers me. If I said I wanted to deal narcotics, and had plastic bags, and a telephone - could I be arrested? Do I need to be in possession of the narcotics first?
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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 11:46 PM
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 12:24 PM
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4. I am and so are others:
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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 01:07 PM
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5. That's great, though mine's briefer and sticks to the theme...
This has nothing to do with that.

I might read some of what you wrote on my show.

http://www.kzum.org/
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 01:10 PM
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6. Absolutely...
no quibble there. :)

TC


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