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Thu Feb-05-04 07:56 PM
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you can take it to the bank, being in the Gay community |
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I will make sure Kerry is held accountable for his rematrks on the MA Supreme Court ruling. Some people have given him a pass on IWR 500+ dead now. Now he wants 2nd class citizens, which I would be one of. Kerry has drawn the line, I get hit by Bush no matter how I turn. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! He wants my vote he's going to have to work for it, I'm not part of the sheeple, I am a full blooded proud QUEER American!
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Thu Feb-05-04 07:58 PM
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Who is FOR gay marriage? Last week Bush came out for a gay marriage constitutional amendment and everybody was willing to accept civil unions. Dean is for civil unions. Kerry is for civil unions. I just cannot understand this thinking when Kerry is continuously held to a different standard than every other candidate.
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Thu Feb-05-04 08:00 PM
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3. I don't play 2nd fiddle to anyone! |
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Give me marriage or give Hetro's Civil unions! I am your equal and nothing else.
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Thu Feb-05-04 08:05 PM
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7. What are the other candidates' (not named Sharpton and Kucinich..) |
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stances on gay marriage? As far as I know, EVERY single one of them besides Sharpton and Kucinich will not come out and SUPPORT gay marriage. Right?
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Thu Feb-05-04 08:02 PM
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Ya better watch that broad generalization. I'm straight as a line, and even I can see that saying two people can't get married is relegating them to second class citizenry.
Kerry lost me on that one. I can't think of one single reason to work for him if he gets the nod.
And by the way, Clark said that if states want to call it civil union, they can. If they call it marriage, then it should be recognized as such. Kerry's statement was right in line with Bush's "defense of marriage act." It sickens me.
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revcarol
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Thu Feb-05-04 08:09 PM
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11. Kucinich is for gay marriage. |
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He sees it as a matter of EQUAL RIGHTS. He is for partners getting the same survivor's and spousal benefits under SS, the same rights to non-discrimination in housing and banking, etc. to include ALL the benefits that other married couples have.
If this is a DECIDING ISSUE FOR YOU, I suggest you get together with your friends and start having FUNDRAISERS for Dennis. The more money he gets, the higher his visibility. The higher his visibility, the more likely his positions will be heard. JUST DO IT!!
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Thu Feb-05-04 07:59 PM
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2. Stand up for your rights! I said this would hit Kerry in |
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the ass. I know he is in a no win spot but if you don't stand by your principles you don't stand for anything.
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Thu Feb-05-04 08:01 PM
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I'm in the gay community, too, and I doubt very much that the Democratic nominee will come out in favor of gay marriages this year.
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funky_bug
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Thu Feb-05-04 08:03 PM
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Did you catch the interview in The Advocate? Clark already said that he has no problem with gay marriages OR civil unions... it's all terminology to him, and he's fine by any standard.
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revcarol
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Thu Feb-05-04 08:15 PM
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12. But if it is not a MARRIAGE, the legal things of the federal government |
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do not apply. The spouse in a "civil union" cannot get Social Security on the record of his/her partner, they cannot file joint income tax,etc., etc. ad infinitum.
This is NOT just a question of SEMANTICS, what you might call it, marriage or civil union, as Clark would have you believe. There are definite LEGAL differences, and civil unions would be a second-class status.
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Thu Feb-05-04 08:07 PM
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9. Some people are content being 2nd class, I am not. |
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Thu Feb-05-04 08:07 PM
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8. Oh please! I'm as gay as the next girl |
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Edited on Thu Feb-05-04 08:08 PM by nothingshocksmeanymo
and I am more concerned about the burka I'll be wearing in 4 more years if Bush gets re-elected. It's bad enough I've gotta worry about the fucking LOG CABIN CLUB sealing my demise.
Kerry favors civil unions and wrote one of the very first federal anti-discrimination laws concerning gays in the workplace.
When my friend Vincent Chalk was petitioning the USSC in the very first AIDS discrimination case in the entire NATION back in the 80's, Kerry's office was extremely helpful to him, having been one of the first senators in America to speak out about this.
He won his case..a case won for every person with aids in the workplace...he died.
Kerry's position is no different than Dean's and Clark's.
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Thu Feb-05-04 08:08 PM
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10. Yes it is different than Clarks! |
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