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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 09:22 PM
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If Dean drops out before Kucinich, I will support Dennis.
I know that it maybe a far fetched thought but if Dean does drop out and Kucinich stays in the race, I will throw my support to him. I think Dean supporters should come over to Kucinich if Howard calls it day. He will be the only anti-establishment candidate if Dean goes. As long as Dean stays on, I will stick with him.


John
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lastknowngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 09:28 PM
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1. Dennis isn't going to drop out before the convention
he knows the reality but that's not why he is there.
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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 09:39 PM
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2. kick
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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 09:56 PM
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3. kick
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 10:01 PM
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4. Good! The DNC and DLC will never "get it" unless Dennis

gets a lot more votes in the rest of the primaries.

If everybody whose candidate has dropped out (or is clearly unable to win) at the time of their primary would vote for Dennis it would make it clear to the DNC and DLC that there are a lot of Democrats who are ignored when the party tilts right.

It's an essential message to get across.
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plurality Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 10:04 PM
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5. we'll welcome you with open arms!
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 10:08 PM
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6. I would hope that all Dean supporters will go to Dennis
But Clark and Edwards and Kerry will snag a few too. But the Dortor is still in.
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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 10:20 PM
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7. I am not abandoning Dean yet but....
I will keep the door open to supporting Kucinich if Dean does drop out, but I am still holding on to being optimism that Dean will pull it off this Saturday.


fingers crossed and plenty of knocking on wood!


John
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diamondsoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 10:34 PM
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8. Shhhh...
Don't tell anyone, but secretly there's a part of me that wants Dean to do well, too.:wow: Now that is a major shock coming from me! I just keep thinking how I'd feel if Dennis sent a message like that, and I hate the thought of anyone being that disappointed after working so hard.

So Good Luck Governor and Dean supporters!
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 11:27 PM
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9. Me too.
Seems funny to say since I have not liked Gov. Dean for quite a while but we need every one of the guys to keep up the pressure. Good luck Dean folks. If you want to come to DK if he does indeed drop out we will welcome you but I will be very sorry if that happens. Cascadian, thanks.
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 01:25 AM
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19. Me three.
As much as I detest Dean the candidate, I can certainly feel for his supporters-- many of whom share the same beliefs/values that DK's supporters keep. I'd really hate to see them get alienated from the process, or support a candidate who doesn't share many of the same positions.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 11:30 PM
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10. Why?
Kucinich asked his supporters to support Edwards in caucus? May be another deal in the offing in WA. I don't see your reasoning?
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wheresthemind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 11:32 PM
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11. and Edwards asked his to support Dennis...
It all had to do with cauces and being viable, it was not an endorsement.
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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 01:08 AM
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18. It is only in case Dean drops out.
I honestly hope Dean will score this Saturday and all the way to Wisconsin. Dean will get some states between now and Super Tuesday. I know Washington should help Dean out.


John
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 11:34 PM
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12. not far fetched
If Dean were to honor his ploy of ending his campaign upon loosing Wisconsin, then a likely reality. I have long said that Kucinich would be in the race longer than Dean. Last fall people though I was crazy. Now they still think it unlikely but acknowledge the possibility. It would be of great benefit for DK if Dean was not in race on super tuesday.
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Edwards4President Donating Member (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 11:35 PM
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13. That sounds so strange?
Who would have thought it would be remotely possible that Dean would drop out before Dennis?

Just shows how quickly the political sands shift. And, who knows where we'll be in another two weeks. Everything could be topsy turvy.
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corporatewhore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 12:02 AM
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14. If he does goin to DK is great as much as i dont like dean i hope he stays
in the race because he isnt affraid of being impolite and has called clark lieberman and kerry out right republicans (even though i personally think dean would have to be a bit more liberal before i could vote for him) I love it when he told wolfie to his face that the news was only to entertain !!!!!
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 12:08 AM
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16. Dean is a treasure. Like in a comic strip...
You know how they all have bubbles over their head to show what they're thinking when they won't say it?

Well, Dean is the guy with no bubble. You gotta love that about him. I hate some of his positions but I have respect for that quality and a real respect for the movement behind him.

Yes Dean, you grow on some of us for that.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 12:05 AM
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15. You're one of us already anyway
I don't think Dean and Kucinich are that close as candidates but, for the most part, the supporters are very similar.

If the time comes, don't even bother knocking. You just come right on in and make yourself at home. Your place is reserved ;)
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 12:57 AM
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17. We'll be waiting for you
:hi:
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Indiana_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 02:19 AM
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20. I think Dean, Clark, Kucinich & Sharpton supporters
are closest to each other....I think that if one or the other drops out, most of each other's supporters will go to one or the others' campaign.
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tmwat Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 02:53 AM
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21. What if that's what it comes down to? Two guys left standing

would dean, clark, edwards, kucinich, and sharpton supporters, for the most part, back one of these five instead of kerry?
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Indiana_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 02:55 AM
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22. I believe so. n/t
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Atlant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 07:59 AM
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23. I believe this is an entirely appropriate choice. (NT)
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 09:07 AM
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24. So will I
Kerry gets my vote in November if he wins the nomination, and that is it.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 09:34 AM
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25. Welcome.
I believe that's a reasonable scenario. Dennis is in it for the long run. Nomination or no, he's bringing the issues to the caucus. That's an invaluable service, IMO, and it's why I'm with him all the way.

When it comes to predicting winners, I don't swing with the pendulum; I'll wait and see what happens when each state votes. I don't believe it is appropriate to call winners before all the votes are in and counted. And hyping up the first few states can negatively affect the outcome of the rest of the races. I hear Dean is going to use Wisconsin results to decide whether or not to stay in; if he's not in, you'll be welcome to join us. Whether we win the nomination or not, we win in the long run if we shift the party's current direction, IMO.
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edzontar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 09:38 AM
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26. Assuming a Dean withdrawal, I will go to DK, Clark, Sharpton...
Edwards, and then, LAST, and ONLY because Bush is so very bad, to the voting booth ONLY for Kerry.
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markus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 10:36 AM
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27. Keep on kickin'
Edited on Fri Feb-06-04 10:36 AM by markus
My chance to vote has come and gone, but I would support DK next.

My wife almost voted for him, and she used to work for Ted Kennedy (and flirts with Edwards, more literally than figuratively).

I think we need to keep alive a candidate of real reform in this race.
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 10:59 AM
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28. I agree. I think I will too.
:thumbsup:
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 11:38 AM
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29. I hope he doesn't drop out soon.
You're very welcome in the Kucinich camp, though. :hug:

I originally supported Dean so I respect what he says. No matter how much I don't like the way he governed in VT, I still find myself liking him more than the other candidates (except the Kooch, obviously).

But I really hope he stays in, if for no other reason than to give the yakking media whores more to bitch and whine about. How I love that we're not following their agenda.

Go Dean! :thumbsup:
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