Let's fight 'em here, so we don't have to fight them over there!

[johnlal]

The cowardly Republicans always want to fight the terrorists over there so we don't have to fight them over here. I say, let's fight them over here. It will cost less, and we have home field advantage! Just think about it. It takes a lot of gasoline and petroleum products to send troops all the way to Iraq to fight. With the high gas prices, maybe the terrorists will think twice about booking that one-way flight.


Maybe this time we can fight them in a Red State like Florida or Texas rather than New York. The Red Staters are much more vocal in their support of the war (except for the Dixie Chicks). Once they get over here, it will be easy for them to get into the country. Just walk across the Mexican Border!

An added bonus: Right now we have a shortage of military personnel. The Government is forcing soldiers and marines back into service, and is putting stop-loss measures into effect. If we fight the terrorists in Texas, we can get illegal immigrants to take the military jobs that Americans don't want to do. We can probably pay the immigrant soldiers a lot less than we pay our own people.

Also, where is Halliburton headquartered? Texas! Just think of the profits they can make by cutting down the travel costs.

So, instead of fighting the terrorists over there, lets fight them over here.

[Richardo]

1. A cogent and well-thought-out argument

:applause:


(and :rofl:)

[C_U_L8R]

2. Only cowards support fearmongers

(paraphrasing a very true post I saw yesterday)

[stepnw1f]

3. And Only Cowards Give Away Their Rights

when others died for them.

[magnolia]

4. I've always hated....

...the "fight them there so we don't have to fight them here" justification. If it's true, it's a horrible thing to do to another country. Fight OUR battle there...kill their people and destroy their country! Did they give us permission to use their country to do our dirty work?

Why didn't Israel and Lebanon just say "Let's not mess up our countries and get our people killed...let's take this war to Texas! Let's fight them there, so we don't have to fight them here."

[The Backlash Cometh]

5. Yah! Let them spend the gas money.

[neoblues]

6. Good point: have the undocumented immigrants take the jobs Americans...

don't want. Should we care if they happen to be in our military--and do pay closer to a living wage; after all, they are jobs Americans don't want (right now, anyway--which is only a sign of individual insight/wisdom/prudence). Otherwise known as having a mercenary (sort of) army--very popular back in the 17th century, and making a comeback in IRAQ, what with all the private security forces (practically speaking, corporate militias/armies). So, what's the difference...

The key point was that many Americans tolerate or justify undocumented/illegal immigration by pointing out how we need them--to fill jobs Americans (who are so proud, too good to do some kinds of work...)(actually, it's just that Americans who might take such jobs would actually receive some sympathy in their demands/need for at least minimum wage (and having to pay such exorbitant wages would anger American business)) don't want. So, accordingly, this should be an acceptable solution (only the idea of giving people who've been so used and abused could seem scary--particularly to some of the abusers; and, they would also object to anyone other than an American being paid 'American' wages--this would outrage them as much or more than any security concerns).

We should make life intolerable for Americans who hold these views--and by that, I simply mean that we should make it an enforced law that even undocumented immigrants shall receive a "living wage" (preferrably with a significant increase to the so-called "minimum wage"). Having to pay all comers a full day's wages for a full day's work--egad, I can hear it now "why... that's just un-American...". To our shame, such practices are indeed "business as usual" in "the land of the free".

When will morality, honesty and justice--all part of "the American way", make a comeback (especially in Congress and all of our political leadership)? Perhaps if we, the people, didn't tolerate being lied to and swindled... but making our leaders clean up their collective act might take more effort/action than just occasionally casting a vote and complaining, so it's probably not especially likely. All the less likely so long as people are falling for the notion that we are too busy fighting them (terra-ists) over there, so we don't have to... blah, blah, blah.

[Surya Gayatri]

7. Now, that's what I call

a STRATEGERY ! Home Team Advantage ! Bring 'Em Home & then Bring It On ! Brilliant, john ! SG

:think:

[OwnedByFerrets]

8. I've always thought it was one of the most

arrogant and selfish things that the Repugs have ever uttered. In actuality what they have said and are still saying is "Lets go destroy another country and kill tens of thousands of their people fighting terrorist so we dont have to destroy our infrastructure and possibility kill any of our "important" citizens. And NO, I didnt just say american people because they sure dont care about sacrificing american lives....they do it almost every day and it hasnt bothered the repugs bastards one bit. All they care about are the "important" american lives...read "theirs".
And another thing.....What kind of twisted mind says Lets fight them over there so we dont have to fight them over here........americans are dying either way.....over 2600 of them so far. So, what is the fucking difference....americans are STILL dying you fuckheads. Its not about terrorism. Its about OIL and CONTRACTS. PERIOD.

[enigma000]

9. Think how much simpler it would have been to fight WWII

All that slogging through the invasions of France and Italy, grinding through the western front, huge navel battles. What if we had the war here? Those Soviets were so lucky: they could fight during the day and go home to the family at night. It was a 9 to 5 job for them.

Wars are so much more pleasant when you live in the country that the fighting takes place in. Ask any European.

[Nicole]

10. Why a Red state like Texas or Florida?

Your profile claims you are in Kentucky which is also a red state. Why not fight them there? If you are really serious about fighting them here instead of there then you surely don't have any objections to letting the battle begin in your hometown of Louisville. Or do you?

[johnlal]

11. Really Serious?

"If you are really serious about fighting them here instead of there then you surely don't have any objections to letting the battle begin in your hometown of Louisville."

I wasn't really serious. It was my attempt at humor. I chose Texas and Florida because of their connection with the Bush Boys.

Kentucky would be a fine place to battle the Terrorists. However, my hometown of Louisville would not be the optimal place for the battle. (Too close to the gold in Fort Knox). I think Lexington would be a better place. (joking again)

[radfringe]

12. 2-cents

various reports have pointed out there are more terrorist attacks today than prior to September 11, or even the invasion of Iraq.

for the terrorists, the war on terror is a great success. the more we "fight over there" the more people join the terroristic groups "over there"

meanwhile, as airline passengers dump their shampoo, hand lotion and a sundry of other items into bins before boarding an airplane - our ports and other entry points are wide open OVER HERE.

yeah there's a cartoon in this - bush is holding/locking a front door shut to prevent terrorists from "fighting over here", meanwhile they are sneaking in through a back door.

and not to stir up a fight/debate on immigration - but think about it, if umpteen million illegal aliens have entered and are entering our country today - what's to stop a few terrorists from doing the same. If they can "McGuyver" a "liquid bomb" from shampoo and pencil shavings on a plane, they can do it anywhere.

[Evergreen Emerald]

13. That justification for going to Iraq is grotesque when you think about it

One of the justifications for going to Iraq is to fight them over there rather than over here. Think about that concept: we would have invaded a country, destroyed their infrastructure, and used innocent Iraqi men, women, and children as human shields purposefully putting them between us and the terrorists.

I grew up believing that Americans were brave and strong and just. The idea that we would purposefully hide behind Iraqi citizens as we bombed and shot and killed is against everything for which America has historically stood. It is cowardice and evil and ugly.

How can they get away with that justification for going to Iraq?

[Lilith Velkor]

14. They can't.

:woohoo: