KoKo
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Fri Aug-25-06 04:26 PM
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Anyone know why Jim Webb (VA) sent Campaign Op onto Tweety's show? |
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Tweety has been after "Macacca" thing with George Allen and so he gave the chance to appear to Webb on his show. Webb doesn't show up but sends Campaign Op and Tweety went after the guy.
I don't think Tweety has enough "ratings" for people to be concerned and maybe it's a sign of Webb's honesty that he felt appearing on Tweety was not important, or maybe he had another obligation and Tweety (Whore for Repugs Supreme) picked the date when Webb couldn't appear...BUT.......it didn't look good for Webb. The guy they sent couldn't stand up to Matthews and it was the first I've seen a "challenger" send out an "Op" to speak for him.
Anyone have info from Webb Campaign on this? Webb has the "BIG MO" but dissing Tweety Whore might not be a good thing....even though his viewing audience is "low" he gets a BUZZ from those who are obsessed with politics.
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Fri Aug-25-06 04:31 PM
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maybe think of it this way.....
Tweety demolished an AID and not Webb himself.....
IOW ambushing and trashing an aid is less damaging than trashing the candidate?
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Mayberry Machiavelli
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Fri Aug-25-06 04:32 PM
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2. Had Webb committed to appear on Hardball? |
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Fri Aug-25-06 04:34 PM
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3. What did he go after him about? ...n/t |
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Fri Aug-25-06 07:15 PM
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12. Tweety was saying Webb isn't passionate enough to win. n/t |
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Sat Aug-26-06 12:08 PM
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14. Webb wasn't passionate enough to win? LOL!!! |
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The Web surrogate should have laughed in Tweety's face and said, "Well, if that's his only fault, he's in even better shape than we thought!"
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Sat Aug-26-06 11:42 PM
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19. He said Webb didn't seem to have the "juice"... |
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But the spokesman should've reminded him about how Webb attacked Allen right back when Allen tried to swiftboat him.
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Sun Aug-27-06 12:45 AM
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What the hell does that mean? Because he talks like an intelligent adult and doesn't rave like a maniac? If that's what he means then good for Webb! We could use alot more of that kind of talk!
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Sun Aug-27-06 08:32 AM
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21. Actually...Tweety said "juice". |
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He said that Jim Webb didn't have the juice to win. Tweety's definition of juice is a politician who has the personality of a used car salesman. That's the "winning" personality. Unfortunately, when that wins, the rest of us lose.
Let's hope that Virginia voters know what real passion is...it's caring and thoughtful answers to questions, not noise and talking points.
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Fri Aug-25-06 04:39 PM
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4. I was thinking the same damned thing ....... |
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.... but there could be any number of reasons for this. I'd like to think it was some political calculus that makes sense, but, while I support Webb, I'm not liking his campaign strategy very much right now. He should be all over this.
You're very right, the surrogate they sent was pretty damned weak. Mudcat, at least, should have been there.
(I ***so**** want Allen gone and Webb in.)
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Fri Aug-25-06 04:43 PM
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5. Tweety rarely breaks 300,000 views per night. Jon Stewart gets... |
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Fri Aug-25-06 04:52 PM
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6. Thing is, though, Northern VA, an important area for Webb, being part of |
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DC, will have a much higher viewership of shows like Hardball among political junkie types than most of the country.
So it would have seemed good for Webb to appear unless he felt it was some kind of setup or had something better going.
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Fri Aug-25-06 05:28 PM
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7. I did mention that Tweety's ratings are low and that Webb might have had |
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a more important Campaign Event that allowed Tweety to saboutage him for not being there...but that Webb did send a surrogate.
If DU'ers would READ PAST SUBJECT LINE! ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!
Why don't you FOLKS READ!!!!!!!!!!
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Fri Aug-25-06 06:28 PM
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9. Does a website have Jon Stewart's rating numbers? NT |
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Fri Aug-25-06 05:36 PM
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8. Um, ALLEN is the villian here. |
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Did he think think that "going after" Webb or his rep was the fair and balanced thing to do.
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Fri Aug-25-06 06:39 PM
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10. Absolutely ...but why didn't Webb seize opportunity with Tweety to push |
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his viewpoint. As I said in my "OP" {which folks didn't bother to read on this thread) it might be Tweety tried to go at him picking a night when Webb couldn't appear because of prior committment. But, in this day and age a Candidate can do a "remote" from their CELLPHONE...Instead Webb sent a surrogate to appear and Tweety trashed him.
What I'm saying is that Webb needs to get his "butt in gear" and "TAKE ADVANTAGE of the MACCACA MOMENT! Webb NEEDS TO FIGURE OUT THE WAY THE RW TRASH and then the DEM COUNTER-TRASH WORKS!!!
Get to WEBB AND TELL HIM...MAJOR MISTAKE!!! (and...I hope I'm wrong...really)
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Fri Aug-25-06 07:11 PM
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11. He won't do it, and it appears his supports don't won't him to go . . . |
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Edited on Fri Aug-25-06 07:11 PM by rogue emissary
on the attack.
I've been writing that Webb need to be more aggressive before he even won the primary. His supporters counter that would be too negative and would turn off VA voters.
Since Allen is doing his best Kilgore impression. Webb might not need to do anything more than show up at the debates and keep his name out there. Hey, what ever Webb is doing is working. As Allen's gone from double digest leads to leading by only the M.O.E of the polls.
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Fri Aug-25-06 07:55 PM
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13. Thanks for your reply on this... |
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Maybe his strategy will work. I know it would be impossible for ME if I was running to go on Tweety's Whore Media Show...because it would make me ill to have to "hawk my wares" there.
Maybe Webb's principles are really good and he figures Matthews (Tweety) is so tainted he doesn't need to go there to win.
I love a principle politician like that...and..wish we had more of them...
Still...in these times...he might just need to show a little more "pluck?"
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Sat Aug-26-06 12:20 PM
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15. It sounds like Tweety's "mission" was to "smear" Webb |
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since the Macaca incident has made Allen look so dirty. He must have known that Tweety was going to trash him regardless of what he said.
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Sat Aug-26-06 12:28 PM
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17. I hate to see him push a non-issue |
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Racism is not an issue in this election. The war, gas prices, healthcare, economy etc. are the issues. Anything else *can* look like mudslinging. If VA is anything like Nebraska, and I think it is in this respect, nothing will turn off voters more quickly than crying "racism". This is an issue better left to talking heads and not to be pushed by the candidate. That's my opinion.
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Sat Aug-26-06 11:23 PM
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18. Racism is most certainly an issue in Virginia. |
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I can't speak about Nebraska, but there's been a growing escalation of racist vandalism and graffiti in the VA/DC/MD area. I realize that pointing out Allen's bigotry won't exactly when Webb voters.
Webb can still use this incident, and it doesn't have to be about racism. Since this incident does a good job of showing how Allen isn't a nice good old cowboy. Allen has used that image to coast into a governor and senate seats. He also likes to portray himself as a Moderate and outsider. The video shows he's a cynical and nasty politician. Picking on a twenty something year old guy for being a Webb supporter.
The ironic thing about the whole incident is Allen did the same thing to Webb. If Allen hadn't sent a guy to follow and video tape Webb this might not have even happened.
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Sun Aug-27-06 08:43 AM
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22. It's an issue of character. |
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That's a legitimate campaign issue. The BEST case scenario for Allen is that he was trying to make up an ethnic sounding name for someone and assuming they weren't an American-born citizen because they were dark. Nice.
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Sat Aug-26-06 12:23 PM
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Mudcat is a good spokesman. You've got to send someone good or no one at all.
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