I truly believe they have Bush quite medicated

[dajoki]

Seriously, in his Wisconson speech he looked like he should have been in a straight jacket. Today in Mississippi he looked groggy, was slurring and mispronouncing worse than usual(if that's possible). The sweat was pouring out of him even though people standing next to him were not sweating. His demeanor was completely strange today, more than usual. I think they see he is about to go over the edge and are trying to disguise it as best they can. Some kind of nerve or anti anxiety pills, maybe something stronger, but definitely something. Any opinions?

[niyad]

1. a WHOLE lot of jack and coke???

[dajoki]

2. I'm serious...

did anybody else take notice? I know it's hard to tell with him, but something stood out to me today.

[niyad]

7. I umderstand that you are serious-- and thank you for having the strength

to actually watch him, which is far more than I can do. Agreed that there is probably some heavy-duty medicating going on, just not sure what kind.

[dajoki]

9. Yes it is hard to watch him...

I used to get a laugh now and the, but it isn't funny anymore!!

[razors edge]

11. hard hell, he's got me drinking jack and coke

and i can't bring myself to watch him outside daily show etc.

[niyad]

12. welcome to DU-- frankly, I don't think there is enough alcohol in the

world to make it possible for me to watch/listen to him, even on TDS.

[dajoki]

16. I can't blame you. Welcome to DU DiktatrW

[MrModerate]

3. I suppose it's possible he's hitting the bottle again . . .

Although I don't believe it. I think the defense mechanisms surrounding him -- starting with Laura -- would prevent that from happening. I'd think they'd be treating him for depression, if anything, not tranquilizing him. But even that seems unlikely to me.

I think a) His earlier substance abuse is coming back to bite him and b) he's very depressed, perhaps clinically so, and that's making him sloppy and metabolically erratic.

[dajoki]

8. Could be all you mention, but...

I don't think it's the booze, but others make sense although I think if it is depression, he is or should be taking something.

[Cosmocat]

40. No ...

No one tells this guy what to do, DIRECTLY ...

Laura is an enabler ... One moment of telling him to stop drinking or she is gone 10-15 years ago is one moment ... This guy is a career substance abuser, and NOTHING that he says or does indicates a man who has the mindset of someone in recovery ... Laura just does not want to see it ...

He has LONG been drinking, and it is only a matter of what other substances he is using, prescription or otherwise ...

He NEVER was coherent ... That he is less so is attributed for having to actually DO SOMETHING with his life for five years steady, as much as he does, and the stress of having to repeat the same lies over, and over, and over, and NEVER dealing in truth, honesty and reality ...

[dajoki]

53. It ain't only booze n/t

[Contrary1]

56. I don't think that it's depression...

From someone who has been there, the medication I was on did not produce these symptoms.

I do think he's doped up on something though, and maybe washing it down with a little Jack. Ritalin comes to mind. As far as his keepers preventing him from doing anything, you have to remember, he is the prez, and would pretty much be able to do whatever he wants.

Who would out him? They can't afford to.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

4. Troubled man to be sure. I think they've got him on something...

...to keep his temper in check.

[dajoki]

5. Yes, that is what I feel n/t

[bdamomma]

21. and he's got a temper

I remember when Condi requested to someone (I can't remember who it was right now) to try not to upset the President.

[MasonJar]

6. I didn't see this, (wish I had) but the day he talked to the troops in

Iraq via video about 4 months or so ago, he had the strangest tic. He kept flailing his head to the side the entire time. It was very disconcerting; I'm sure that those troops (prepped though they were) were really heartened to see the self-proclaimed Commander-in-Chief safely tucked away in D.C., having nervous tics, while they risk their lives at his bidding in a war zone.

[mcscajun]

10. Something is clearly wrong with him. He doesn't know where he IS

when he's making speeches. The "the world" bit he does is cover for his lack of comprehension of just what state/town he's in at any given time.

[rodeodance]

13. he was reading from a prepared speech.

[mcscajun]

14. Still makes sense. They don't trust him to get even that right.

I believe he's medicated, or if not, he certainly SHOULD BE!

[dajoki]

15. Absolutely, one or the other n/t

[bdamomma]

22. remember when Katrina hit, he kept on saying

"in this part of the world" the guy is not well. Why can't some innocent voice scream out and say the Emperor is sick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[fuzzyball]

17. I am praying for good health for president Bush

because otherwise we get Darth Vader Cheney as president
and then we are really screwed.

[Disturbed]

18. Darth Vader Cheney is the president.

Busholini is merely a Sock Puppet.

[bdamomma]

23. yea, cheney is already President but it would be one down one to go.

[tavalon]

54. No, we get Cheney out front where we can watch the bastard.

[lpbk2713]

19. Makes me wonder if there's anything to the stories about

Dumbya and Pickles going their separate ways. Smirky never was known for his intestinal fortitude. If that's the case maybe it's more than he can handle and he needs a crutch......

[raccoon]

20. SSRI's will make you sweat a lot. I don't know about other drugs

such as anti-anxiety or whatever. Anybody know?

[bdamomma]

24. geez, there are so many anti depressants out there do we

have a psychologist or psychiatrist in the house! but this subject keeps on coming up I wish we could really bring this into the forefront of things saying he is unfit mentally to hold office, and puts all of us in grave danger. not enough people are taking this seriously.

[kitkat65]

55. I've taken antidepressants and they don't usually have the type of effect

you're describing here, given that it's the right diagnosis, the right medication and the right dosage.

Anxiety meds maybe? I couldn't say.

[KKKarl is an idiot]

25. Well forget impeaching

He is beginning to look real bad of late. He may end up in detox or will need to be taken to a mental institution. With all his troubles I would not be surprised he is on some kind of medication. CEO's generally step down after so much has gone wrong with their leadership. Maybe after the November elections we will see him gone for health reasons. But the fear is that will bring Dick Cheney. It only gets worse.

[raccoon]

26. What would be the difference, if Cheney is running the show anyway? nt

[bdamomma]

27. one question though during one of those daily kos conventions

someone on the panel said if bush gets impeached cheney will follow, both of them will go.

[raccoon]

28. I should live so long! nt

[Kablooie]

29. Bush's mind is wearing itself out with so much heavy thinking. (Camus?)

[Hell Hath No Fury]

30. I have long thought that.

He has been on some sort of meds for years -- his eyes have a glassy appearance that I associate with Celexa. I know five people (including myself) who are on that med and we all have that same glassy look to our eyes. I actually think he is one hell of a cocktail of anti-depressants, anti-anxiety, and sleeping aids.

All you have to do is look at footage from his time as Gov. and him now -- the guy is a shade of his former self.

[dajoki]

33. Yes, that is what I'm saying n/t

[truth2power]

31. Something's going on. I've known that for a long time...

He seems to have wide mood swings, often incongruent with the particular situation. Sometimes he's very lethargic, and at other times he starts shouting for no reason, given the content of what he's saying. He has highly inappropriate affect, i.e. giggling when talking about some horrific destruction.

And another thing I've noticed. Look at the pictures of his photo ops. With rare exceptions, he's not THERE. He's not engaged with the activity at hand. Look at his eyes....empty. He's somewhere or someWHEN else. Even allowing for the fact that we all know his photo ops are "hey, look at how compassionate I am" opportunities. It's that, but much more.

And he sweats more than anyone I've ever seen. At the oddest times, too. As you related above about those standing around him. Maybe it's the kevlar vest?

I think he's heavily medicated. Both to bring him up and bring him down. And it's way beyond being bi-polar. It's obviously so extreme, at this point, that they can't properly modulate it anymore. Bad, bad news! :scared:

[dajoki]

34. I'm glad you see it...

I knew it wasn't only me.

[mithnanthy]

35. Thank you, dajoki for bringing this up.

I watch him (observe him) to see the different reactions he has on different occasions. He's definately medicated with different meds at different times. (I was adopted by a doctor, who daily, took ups in the morning and downs at night for years with very familiar reactions.) Shrub's handlers are afraid of his temper and mouth and they're trying to control both. Good luck with that maniac. His eyes and facial expressions are SO telling...and easy to read. He's also a sociopath, IMO.

[dajoki]

42. Yes, I think he is very easy to read n/t

[truth2power]

36. He has multiple mental and physiological issues...

His speech (off script) is extraordinarily concrete. His higher order thinking skills are essentially nil. No complexity or analytical ability "The tur'ists are gonna hurt us." Hurt us? His demonstrated problem solving ability is about that of a not-too-bright 8 year old.

I think he has symptoms of dementia, caused by substance abuse or something else, I don't know. He can't retrieve information when he's trying to explain something. There's all that "uh..<pause>..uh" stuff going on. And when he finally does retireve it, it's expressed as something totally inane and concrete.

I think he dissociates. That's why he frequently seems "not in the moment." IMO he's a sociopath. Maybe other character disorders, as well. Empathy is a foreign emotion to him. I think he tries to fake it, but it's truly not available, as is the case with sociopaths.

And he reads Shakespeare? Puleeze! Which plays did he read I'd like to know? Given his demonstrated cognitive deficits, I don't think he's capable of reading and understanding a Shakespearean play. Elizabethan mind-set about how nature reflects human events, archaic words, some plays turn on multiple disguises, plays within a play. Difficult at best. Nah!!

[dajoki]

43. I think that is a great analysis truth2power

[truth2power]

44. Thanks! Appreciate that.

;)

[BlueStorm]

46. Disorganized Schizophrenia?

Could it be that? That he needs medications to control it?

Blue

[No Exit]

50. My UNprofessional opinion is that he suffers from dementia

and possibly Korsakoff's syndrome--all brought on by previous (and possibly current) alcohol/drug abuse.

[El Fuego]

32. I think he self-medicates....

:beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer:

[Tyo]

39. If they don't medicate him he takes care of it on his own n/t

[Stinky The Clown]

37. I agree with you. And I think it is a very serious issue.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2803146

[dajoki]

41. I was thinking about the same thing n/t

[leftyladyfrommo]

38. I think he acts like someone on antidepressants -

The way he is so slow to find the words to things - and then stops in the middle of a sentence and just changes directions. He talks like my mother does right after she has her Vicodin pill.

I agree with you - I think that guy is drugged up on something.

[GreenTea]

45. Yes, He and Rush-Happy fascist campers...giggling together.

[Joey Liberal]

47. I noticed that a long time ago n/t

[opihimoimoi]

48. Many signs of Brain Damage in Bush ...espcially of late.

Nevertheless...still supported by the GOP CROP....revealing the effectiveness of Mental Herding

[No Exit]

49. No argument here.

Yes, I absolutely believe they medicate the fucker.

Hey... someone should tell them the medication isn't working...

[KansDem]

51. Prez'dentin' is "hard work"

"HARD WORK"



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I make you safe, I make you free!
In air, on land, in space, on sea!
I make you safe, I make you free!

[dajoki]

52. Yes he is...

I pity the person who is in charge of making sure he is properly medicated.