serryjw
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Mon Aug-28-06 11:08 PM
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Peter Galbraith on C-Span |
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Did anyone see him? He was brilliant. Yes, Iraq is and should be 3 states...and that way WE can leave. What part of this does * not understand?
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Mon Aug-28-06 11:34 PM
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1. Cheney and his boys can't deal with three countries to get their oil |
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out. We can't dominate three countries! Three pipelines, three different ports? Three different cross through lines? Oh, that's right - only the north and the south have the gas and oil, so only two of the countries are important to Cheney and the boys and girls (Rice) and the stockholders..
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Mon Aug-28-06 11:42 PM
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2. OK..........so HOW are we going |
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to get the oil out when this civil war continues..or gets worse?
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Tue Aug-29-06 07:10 AM
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6. That's exactly their problem. They were expecting to be heroes and |
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Edited on Tue Aug-29-06 07:11 AM by higher class
get the oil. The plan fell apart. They have protested the idea of breaking it into three. Breaking it involves chaos in the north because of the relationship of Turkey and the Kurds. Breaking it is supposed to involve a problem with the 'empty' middle part. Their plan did not include 1/3 and the prospect of a potentially explosive war between the three - affecting their safety and the safety of the oil. Their influence is limited by former exiles who told them how easy it would be to set up a new government after we took care of Hussein and put them in charge and it's not going smoothly. It is impossible to predict what the influence and interests of outsiders will be and what their planners are laying out.
Cheney and the boys are incompetently dangerous. There is a limit on the money they can take from us to pay for their project. There is a limit on the kids they can take from us to work cheaply.
To answer your question - it's not how 'we' are going to get it out, it's how they are going to get it out. This is their project. We will go on paying high prices either way.
And it seems trouble is brewing for their good partner in the U.K.
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Tue Aug-29-06 07:39 PM
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7. I can't remember the last time |
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the US did anything right.
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Mon Aug-28-06 11:48 PM
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3. They need an unstable country so that they can dominate it from afar. |
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If one country were stable, they want to break it into three. If three were stable, they'd want to join it into one.
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Tue Aug-29-06 12:01 AM
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4. Breakup Will Just Open Up A Whole New Can Of Worms |
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The Turks and Iranians will NEVER tolerate an independent Kurdistan, The Sunni portion will be devoid of mineral resources and be left destitute (unless they battle fiercely to hold on to Kirkuk), and the Shiites will NOT settle for governing one third of a country after the Sunnis have been running the whole thing for generations, especially since a Shiite shrine (Samarra) would be located in the Sunni third.
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Tue Aug-29-06 12:48 AM
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5. According to Galbraith |
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Kurdistan exists NOW independently. They have their own oil, language,customs and governing. The problem is the Sunnis and Shiites. By staying we are only making Iran stronger that is financing the Shiites success....and the US kids are dying
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Tue Aug-29-06 08:16 PM
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8. I've been asking that question for years. |
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but there are still problems...mainly, the Baghdad area has no oil.
Why can't they be the United States of Iraq and let each area make their own personal laws regarding religion and social issues (like we do or did), but all three states share in the oil and wealth?.:shrug:
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