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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 11:11 AM
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bush will "cut and run" from Iranian Pres. debate challenge
Edited on Tue Aug-29-06 11:18 AM by welshTerrier2
just where is President Macho now? here he not only has a chance to stand up to the Iranians on the world stage but also has a chance to demonstrate his keen grasp of the issues and possibly avoid yet another major war by utilizing his exemplary diplomatic skills ...

yeah, well, forget it ... President Fraidy Cat doesn't want to have an honest dialog with anybody ... even if it were scripted and even if he could be rigged with AT&T's finest back-of-your-suit communications equipment as he was in the Kerry debates, President Photo-Op is not going to accept the debate challenge from Iranian President Ahmadinejad ...

and that's too bad ... it could be an opportunity to make real diplomatic progress ...

but since bush will clearly be a no show, it would be interesting to see one of our leading Democrats out-flank the cowardly bush by accepting the challenge ... now that would be some TV worth watching and it would be a major boost for one of our candidates ... just a thought ...


source: http://go.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=politicsNews&storyID=13325239&src=rss/ElectionCoverage

Ahmadinejad challenges Bush to TV debate

TEHRAN (Reuters) - President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Tuesday challenged President Bush to a televised debate and voiced defiance as a deadline neared for Iran to halt work the West fears is a step toward building nuclear bombs.

"Peaceful nuclear energy is the right of the Iranian nation. The Iranian nation has chosen that based upon international regulations, it wants to use it and no one can stop it," he told a news conference.

The White House said Ahmadinejad's call for a presidential debate on global concerns was a "diversion" from international concerns over Iran's nuclear program. (NOTE: think about that ... the Iranians want to debate their right to have a "nuclear program" and the WH calls wanting to talk about having a debate about it a diversion) <skip>

"Isn't it time that international relations are founded on democracy and equal rights of the nations?"

"I suggest holding a live TV debate with Mr. George W. Bush to talk about world affairs and the ways to solve those issues," he said.

"The debate should be go uncensored in order for the American people to be able to listen to what we say and they should not restrict the American people from hearing the truth."
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DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 11:14 AM
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1. didn't Saddam challenge bush to a debate at one time? nt
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 11:17 AM
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4. I think Bush would have actually won if he'd debated Saddam
Ahmadinejad? I don't think so.

I think Bush and Saddam are about intellectually and morally equal.

Ahmadinejad, while just as immoral and evil as Bush, actually seems like a smart guy-- except maybe crazier.

Ahmadinejad is Katherine Harris Crazy.

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SweetLeftFoot Donating Member (905 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 11:34 AM
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8. Wrong
I think Bush and Saddam are about intellectually and morally equal.

Saddam is far smarter than Bush. He took and held power for decades in one of the most dangerous political environments ever. Bush needed to be appointed by the Supreme Court after losing the popular vote. Morally, yeah, about even.


Ahmadinejad, while just as immoral and evil as Bush, actually seems like a smart guy-- except maybe crazier.

Why is Ahmadinjed immoral or evil? He was democratically elected, has invaded no nations ...
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 11:38 AM
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9. His imposition of Sharia law is evil and immoral...
And it makes Bush jealous that he and his Talibornagain can't impose Christian Sharia law in America-- yet.

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SweetLeftFoot Donating Member (905 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 11:41 AM
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10. Depends
Why did he win the election standing on that platform then?

You should also note that Iran's policy in drugs is far, far more moral and sensible than that pursued by the US.

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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 11:41 AM
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19. The religious opposition was excluded from the ballot
By the religious cabal that runs Iran.

We have no way of knowing who would have won an honest, open election there.
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DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 01:05 PM
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14. bush win a debate...come on surely you jest. nt
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 11:30 AM
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6. Yep. Either that or some sorta duel
bush was afraid there may have been a horse event.
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DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 01:03 PM
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13. your too funny mom thanks for the chuckle.... nt
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 11:31 AM
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7. Yup
Saddam had to settle for a Dan Rather interview instead. No one in the media in either case dares raise the obvious point that there is no world leader anywhere in the world less capable in a debate, or any other mental pursuit for that matter than Bush. It should be a joke at least.

Challenge Bush to a mountain bike race in the hills of Iran. A pretzel eating contest. A chugalug beerfest(whoops, against both guys' religion). Bald head stroking. Liars' contest. A game of chicken in two fighter planes. And everyone's favorite, Russian roulette.
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DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 01:11 PM
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15. Patrick.. thanks for that list of other areas bush might excel in..
bush has been a failure in every aspect of his life. He even married a woman who killed her former boyfriend by running him over. I think that's what she did. Yes, that bush was a born loser.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 11:14 AM
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2. He's afraid Cindy Sheehan will be there.
Or maybe he's afraid Ahmadinejad won't agree to pull his finger.

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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 11:15 AM
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3. Loser should convert to the other religion. Pickles in a burka?
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 11:17 AM
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5. Damn, that would be a blessing to us all. n/t
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 12:02 PM
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11. Nixon debated Khrushchev 1959
here
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/cold.war/episodes/14/documents/debate/


On July 24, 1959, Vice President Richard Nixon and Soviet Premier Nikita Khrushchev held a public discussion at the American National Exhibit in Moscow comparing the technologies of the two powers. In the debate they discussed household items such as color televisions and in the process reviewed differences in ideology and the quality of life in both countries for the average citizen. This edited transcript appeared the following day in The New York Times.
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 12:25 PM
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12. remarkable ...
thanks for posting this ...

at times, they sounded like children arguing about whose toys were better ...

and at others, it was good to see that with nuclear weapons all set to go, conversation could still take place ...

conversation seems impossible in the bush era ...
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Dob Bole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 02:10 PM
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16. Regardless, would you REALLY want the president to debate Iran's leader?
Even if our President is Bush? The idea is kind of repulsive to me, you'd never win a debate against the leader of a theocracy, because whatever he says can't be wrong. Unless the President knew all of the nuances of Islam, it would be pointless and reinforce whatever the Iranians think of us... Bush didn't even know that there are different types of Muslims!
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 08:19 AM
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17. Well no, but speculating about it keeps us entertained.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 08:31 AM
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18. "you'd never win a debate against the leader of a theocracy"
Wait...who are we talking about here?

:P
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