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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 11:24 AM
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Kerry Revives '04 Election Allegations Against Blackwell in Email
John Kerry Revives 2004 Election Allegations
August 29th, 2006 @ 2:31 am

John Kerry is turning up the heat with some allegations of election improprieties by the Ohio Republican who oversaw the deciding vote in 2004 — Ken Blackwell.

In his latest fundraising effort for fellow Democrats, an e-mail will be sent on Tuesday to 100,000 Democratic donors asking them to support U.S. Rep. Ted Strickland for governor of Ohio.

The bulk of the e-mail criticizes Strickland’s opponent, GOP Secretary of State Ken Blackwell, for his dual role in 2004 as President Bush’s honorary Ohio campaign co-chairman and the state’s top election official.

MORE & LINKS - http://blog.thedemocraticdaily.com/?p=4021


The email reported in the news went out to Ohioans only. Here's a copy:

John Kerry: Ken Blackwell Has Used his Office to Abuse our Democracy
August 29th, 2006 @ 9:07 am

As reported here earlier, John Kerry is turning up the heat on Ken Blackwell with allegations of election improprieties by the Ohio Republican who oversaw the deciding vote in 2004.

In his latest fundraising effort for fellow Democrats, John Kerry sent the following email today to 100,000 Democratic donors asking them to support U.S. Rep. Ted Strickland for governor of Ohio:

Dear Friend,

Almost two years ago today, Ted Strickland and I stood together on a stage in Steubenville and I heard Ted tell the crowd about the damage the Bush presidency and the Taft governorship had done to your state — the unemployment, the jobs shipped overseas, and corruption at the top.

As I write to you today, Ted Strickland is offering Ohioans a better choice in a campaign that our entire country is watching.

The choice couldn’t be clearer.

On one side is Ted Strickland — a good man admired by Democrats and Republicans alike. On the other side is his Republican opponent, Ken Blackwell, who has used his office to abuse our democracy and threaten basic voting rights.

Support Strickland. Beat Blackwell. Donate Now.

This isn’t just rhetoric. As you know, in 2004 while serving as a co-chair of George W. Bush’s 2004 Presidential campaign in Ohio, Secretary of State Blackwell oversaw the state’s 2004 election. He used the power of his state office to try to intimidate Ohioans and suppress the Democratic vote. Is he ashamed of what he did? No — he’s emboldened by it.

MORE & LINKS - http://blog.thedemocraticdaily.com/?p=4023
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 11:28 AM
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1. Got mine a few minutes ago
I am glad he is speaking up to try and stop another stolen election, but why didn't he do this 2 years ago?
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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 11:30 AM
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2. He did
But I'm glad it's getting a little press at the moment.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 11:36 AM
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3. Just wish the AP story was more accurate
It is poorly written and te author appears not to understand that there is no contradiction to saying there was voter suppression which Kerry's done - accurately since Nov 2004 and not challanging the result. Votes lost to suppression can not be used to overturn results.
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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 02:19 PM
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5. And this is usually the only coverage he gets
And we have to take these crumbs and then argue endlessly with our own allies about the MSM bullshit and Rovist talking points that they've swallowed hook, line, and sinker. It's very depressing.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 06:53 PM
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8. 2yrs ago it was Terry McAuliffe's job to counter RNC tactics against Dem
Edited on Tue Aug-29-06 06:54 PM by blm
voters. And the Dem party's team of election specialists and lawyers.

Was Kerry supposed to do in 6months the 4yr job of the DNC, the left media, AND his own matchups with Bush?
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enough already Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 11:41 AM
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4. Better Never Than Late
We KNEW right away that Bush stole Ohio. We needed Kerry then and he was silent.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 05:46 PM
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6. Where was the proof? The ironclad, take it to court proof?
Did you have it? Well, neither did he.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 06:55 PM
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9. No - you needed a Dem party that had competent election lawyers.
An election team that works four years to counter the RNC tactics against Dem voters that they focus on for the four years between elections.
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dogman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 06:49 PM
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7. This is what disturbs me.
Have the winds changed?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-cesca/a-conversation-with-mark-_b_12134.html

Snip>BOB CESCA: Last month, John Kerry denied your report that he felt the 2004 election was stolen. First, what's your reaction to his denial? It seems to me as if Kerry has an opportunity to reform the voting system as a public servant fresh from the trenches and very battle-scarred, but he won't stand up for fear of being accused of something as trivial and historically irrelevant as "sour grapes". How many more questionable elections will it take before candidates and leaders like Kerry set aside their concerns over being accused of "sour grapes" and actually put democracy and the good of the nation first?

MARK CRISPIN MILLER: The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind.

I'm not kidding. The answer isn't clear, since what we're dealing with is an irrational refusal to confront, or even to perceive, a clear and present danger to American democracy. We're dealing, finally, with denial. Kerry's move -- "I did not discuss the last election with that man" -- may seem to have been merely prudent, cautious, self-protective, but it was actually insane. Kerry clearly thinks that he will run for president again. Now, let's pretend, just for the sake of argument, that any Democrats outside of his own family would support him after his abrupt concession on Nov. 3, 2004. Let's pretend that he could once again be nominated, and then run, again, in 2008. Let's assume as well that he would win (again). Why does he assume that the Republicans would not subvert that victory too? Does he think the system will perform correctly if it hasn't been reformed? Or does he plan to call for its reform? If so, when? If he wouldn't talk about it back when he was first ripped off, and if he still won't talk about it now, how could he then begin to talk about it as a candidate? The man is obviously out to lunch. <snip
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 07:57 PM
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10. The winds are not changing, the author of the article is lying
The Kerry email does not address whether the election was stolen. It is a very nice fund raising letter. It lists many reasons to support Strickland. It also explains why Blackwell needs to be defeated. Kerry accuses Blackwell of suppressing the vote and being proud of doing so. This accusation is true and provable.

The article is a RW attempt to transform a very clear cut reason to reject someone - he cheated - into a controversial debatable charge. The intent is to diminish a valid issue that plays against a Republican they need to keep in power and to further smear Kerry.

Here is Kerry's email - compare it to the AP story.


Dear Karen,

Almost two years ago today, Ted Strickland and I stood together on a stage in Steubenville, Ohio and I heard Ted tell the crowd about the damage the Bush presidency and the Taft governorship had done to the state -- the unemployment, the jobs shipped overseas, and corruption at the top.

As I write to you today, Ted Strickland is offering Ohio a better choice in a campaign that our entire country is watching.

The choice couldn't be clearer.

On one side is Ted Strickland -- a good man admired by Democrats and Republicans alike. On the other side is his Republican opponent, Ken Blackwell, who has used his office to abuse our democracy and threaten basic voting rights.

Support Strickland. Beat Blackwell. Donate Now.

This isn't just rhetoric. In 2004, while serving as a co-chair of George W. Bush's 2004 Presidential campaign in Ohio, Secretary of State Blackwell oversaw the state's 2004 election. He used the power of his state office to try to intimidate Ohioans and suppress the Democratic vote. Is he ashamed of what he did? No -- he's emboldened by it.

Since 2004, he has twisted the election process even more, adding new voting regulations that have created confusion and controversy. His legacy as Secretary of State? Putting partisanship ahead of the electorate's fundamental right to vote. That's not just a reason not to promote him as Governor; it demands a grassroots mission to stop Ken Blackwell from getting a further grip on power in Ohio.

That is why I am asking you to act right now to help Ted Strickland wage an all-out effort in this tough race. It is a contest in which every member of the johnkerry.com community has a stake.

Support Strickland. Beat Blackwell. Donate Now.

In Congress, Ted has been an outstanding advocate for working men and women, children's health care, and veterans' rights. He has worked to bring good jobs to Ohio by fostering investments in technology, energy production, and economic development. And, while fighting to give our troops the equipment they need, Ted has been a steadfast opponent of the war in Iraq.

Ted knows the world beyond Washington -- he was a minister, a professor and a psychologist before he went to Congress.

Support Strickland. Beat Blackwell. Donate Now.

The Republicans who run Washington, DC know Ted is serious and have called in all their big guns to campaign against him. They know how important this race is for their future -- they think they need to win it to remain in power. Let's not let them have their way.

Sincerely,

John Kerry


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dogman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 08:21 PM
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11. ?
What AP story? From your copy of the Kerry e-mail, I read "This isn't just rhetoric. In 2004, while serving as a co-chair of George W. Bush's 2004 Presidential campaign in Ohio, Secretary of State Blackwell oversaw the state's 2004 election. He used the power of his state office to try to intimidate Ohioans and suppress the Democratic vote." My question is, why did he deny it after his discussion with MCM? Now he addresses it in this e-mail. Is he ready to confront this issue? This is bigger than Kerry, this is an assault on our Constitution.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 09:26 AM
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12. Kerry's office didn't deny that there was voter suppression and other
Edited on Wed Aug-30-06 09:35 AM by karynnj
irregularities. What they denied is that he said "the election was stolen". This is NOT a subtlety, Kerry has said repeatedly that there was voter suppression and has ennumerated some other types of repression. This is completely true and provable. Kerry has NEVER publicly said that the election was stolen. MCM was wrong to take a "yeah" to "you were robbed", in an informal setting as Kerry going on record to say the election was stolen. (For instance, I would say the biased media in 2004 robbed Kerry of victory.) That he didn't respond to Kerry with - "YOU think it was stolen?" or something to confirm the comment shows he intended to simply use Kerry's comment well beyond its intent. (Seriously, imagine you just wrote a whole book on something and then the key player in the event seemed to back your position - wouldn't you have had a few follow up questions?)

The difference is that Kerry lists provable problems that need to be fixed. He is obviously trying to generate support for state level fixes and federal legislation on this issue. He can do this more effectively by scrupulously sticking to fact. Just as Gore did not become President when subsequent analysis showed that he really won FL, Kerry would not become President if they could prove he won Ohio. (RFKjr counts votes not cast due to suppression in his analysis - he may be using reasonable estimates, but this won't work in court and was not available by Jan 2005.) This is a case of Kerry, the excellent former prosecutor, wanting to frame what he is saying on an explosive issue as accurately and defendably as possible. He knows the RW is good at defeating issues if even one fragment can be disproved.

Ask yourself why the RW is making an issue of this. (The AP article is quoted in the OP.) Kerry is using it as a way to get money for Strickland and to give more publicity to the fact that Blackwell did some very bad things in 2004. What would it do to the 2008 Democratic nominee to have Strickland as the Governor of Ohio? What if Blackwell is? (It is clear that Kerry would have won Ohio if there was a fair election and it was equally easy for all to vote.)

Here's a list (obviously incomplete - from memory) of times he has spoken on voting issues:
- On January 5,2005 - Kerry put out an email on this
- On MLK day, 2005 - Kerry spoke on this in Boston to a mostly AA group
- In April, 2005 - Kerry spoke on this in response to a question from Boston area kid essay winner and their parents.
- In fall, 2005 - Kerry spoke on this when he marched with John Lewes in Boston
- In May, 2006 - Kerry spoke at rallies for Strickland and at the Kenyon College commencement
- In July, 2006 - Kerry spoke on the Senate floor

Here is the Senate speech:

From Thomas, the on-line Senate record – given July 20th, 2006.

Mr. KERRY. Mr. President, I thank the Senator from Oregon for his discussion of an important way of having accountability in voting . I must say that I saw how that works out in Oregon. It works well. It works brilliantly, as a matter of fact. People have a lot of time to be able to vote. They don't have to struggle with work issues or being sick or other things. They have plenty of time to be able to have the kind of transparency and accountability that makes the system work. There are other States where you are allowed to start voting early--in New Mexico and elsewhere.
It is amazing that in the United States we have this patchwork of the way our citizens work in Federal elections. It is different almost everywhere. I had the privilege of giving the graduation address this year at Kenyan College in Ohio, and there the kids at Kenyan College wound up being the last people to vote in America in the Presidential race in 2004 in Gambier, at 4:30 in the morning. We had to go to court to get permission for them to keep the polls open so they could vote at 4:30 in the morning.

Why did it take until 4:30 in the morning for people to be able to vote? They didn't have enough voting machines in America. These people were lined up not just there but in all of Ohio and in other parts of the country. An honest appraisal requires one to point out that where there were Republican secretaries of state, the lines were invariably longer in Democratic precincts, sometimes with as many as one machine only in the Democratic precinct and several in the Republican precinct; so it would take 5 or 10 minutes for someone of the other party to be able to vote, and it would take literally hours for the people in the longer lines. If that is not a form of intimidation and suppression, I don't know what is.

So I thank the Senator from Oregon for talking about the larger issue here. He is absolutely correct. The example of his State is one that the rest of the country ought to take serious and think seriously about embracing.
This is part of a larger issue, obviously, Mr. President. All over the world, our country has always stood out as the great exporter of democratic values. In the years that I have been privileged to serve in the Senate, I have had some extraordinary opportunities to see that happen in a firsthand way.

Back in 1986, I was part of a delegation that went to the Philippines. We took part in the peaceful revolution that took place at the ballot box when the dictator, President Marcos, was kicked out and ``Cory'' Aquino became President. I will never forget flying in on a helicopter to the island of Mindanao and landing where some people have literally not seen a helicopter before, and 5,000 people would surround it as you swooped out of the sky, to go to a polling place where the entire community turned out waiting in the hot sun in long lines to have their thumbs stamped in ink and to walk out having exercised their right to vote.

I could not help but think how much more energy and commitment people were showing for the privilege of voting in this far-off place than a lot of Americans show on too many occasions. The fact is that in South Africa we fought for years--we did--through the boycotts and other efforts, in order to break the back of apartheid and empower all citizens to vote. Most recently, obviously, in Afghanistan and Iraq, notwithstanding the disagreement of many of us about the management of the war and the evidence and other issues that we have all debated here. This has never been debated about the desire for democracy and the thrill that everyone in the Senate felt in watching citizens be able to exercise those rights .

In the Ukraine, the world turned to the United States to monitor elections and ensure that the right to vote was protected. All of us have been proud of what President Carter has done in traveling the world to guarantee that fair elections take place. But the truth is, all of our attempts to spread freedom around the world will be hollow and lose impact over the years in the future if we don't deliver at home. The fact is that we are having this debate today in the Senate about the bedrock right to vote, with the understanding that this is not a right that was afforded to everyone in our country automatically or at the very beginning. For a long time, a century or more, women were not allowed to vote in America. We all know the record with respect to African Americans. The fact is that the right to vote in our country was earned in blood in many cases and in civic sweat in a whole bunch of cases. Courageous citizens literally risked their lives. I remember in the course of the campaign 2 years ago, traveling to Alabama--Montgomery--and visiting the Southern Poverty Law Center, the memorial to Martin Luther King, and the fountain. There is a round stone fountain with water spilling out over the sides. From the center of the fountain there is a compass rose coming back and it marks the full circle. At the end of every one of those lines is the name of an American with the description, ``killed trying to register to vote,'' or ``murdered trying to register.'' Time after time, that entire compass rose is filled with people who lost their lives in order to exercise a fundamental right in our country.

None of us will forget the courage of people who marched and faced Bull Connor's police dogs and faced the threat of lynchings, some being dragged out of their homes in the dark of night to be hung. The fact is that we are having this debate today because their work and that effort is not over yet. Too many Americans in too many parts of our country still face serious obstacles when they are trying to vote in our own country.
By reauthorizing the Voting Rights Act, we are taking an important step, but, Mr. President, it is only a step. Nobody should pretend that reauthorizing the Voting Rights Act solves the problems of being able to vote in our own country. It doesn't. In recent elections, we have seen too many times how outcomes change when votes that have been cast are not counted or when voters themselves are prevented from voting or intimidated from even registering or when they register, as we found in a couple of States, their registration forms are put in the wastebasket instead of into the computers.

This has to end. Every eligible voter in the United States ought to be able to cast his or her ballot without fear, without intimidation, and with the knowledge that their voice will be heard. These are the foundations of our democracy, and we have to pay more attention to it.

For a lot of folks in the Congress, this is a very personal fight. Some of our colleagues in the House and Senate were here when this fight first took place or they took part in this fight out in the streets. Without the courage of someone such as Congressman JOHN LEWIS who almost lost his life marching across that bridge in Selma, whose actions are seared in our minds, who remembers what it was like to march to move a nation to a better place, who knows what it meant to put his life on the line for voting rights , this is personal.
For somebody like my colleague, Senator TED KENNEDY, the senior Senator from Massachusetts, who was here in the great fight on this Senate floor in 1965 when they broke the back of resistance, this is personal.
We wouldn't even have this landmark legislation today if it weren't for their efforts to try to make certain that it passed.

But despite the great strides we have taken since this bill was originally enacted, we have a lot of work to do.
Mr. President, I ask for an additional 5 minutes.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
Mr. KERRY. Mr. President, on this particular component of the bill, there is agreement. Republicans and Democrats can agree. I was really pleased that every attempt in the House of Representatives to weaken the Voting Rights Act was rejected.
We need to reauthorize these three critical components especially: The section 5 preclearance provisions that get the Justice Department to oversee an area that has a historical pattern of discrimination that they can't change how people vote without clearance. That seems reasonable.
There are bilingual assistance requirements. Why? Because people need it and it makes sense. They are American citizens, but they still may have difficulties in understanding the ballot, and we ought to provide that assistance so they have a fully informed vote. This is supposed to be an informed democracy, a democracy based on the real consent of the American people.
And finally, authorization for poll watching. Regrettably, we have seen in place after place in America why we need to have poll watching.
A simple question could be asked: Where would the citizens of Georgia be, particularly low-income and minority citizens, if they were required to produce a government-issued identification or pay $20 every 5 years in order to vote? That is what would have happened without section 5 of the Voting Rights Act. Georgia would have successfully imposed what the judge in the case called ``a Jim Crow-era like poll tax.'' I don't think anybody here
wants to go back and flirt with the possibility of returning to a time when States charged people money to exercise their right to vote. That is not our America.
This morning, President Bush addressed the 97th Annual Convention of the NAACP after a 5-year absence. I am pleased that the President, as we all are, ended his boycott of the NAACP and announced his intention to sign the Voting Rights Act into law.

But we need to complete the job. There are too many stories all across this country of people who say they registered duly, they reported to vote, and they were made to stand in one line or another line and get an excuse why, when they get to the end of the line, they can't vote. So they take out a provisional ballot, and then there are fights over provisional ballots. There are ways for us to avoid that. Some States allow same-day registration. In some parts of America, you can just walk up the day of an election, register, and vote, as long as you can prove your residence.
We have this incredible patchwork of laws and rules, and in the process, it is even more confusing for Americans.
We need to fully fund the Help America Vote Act so that we have the machines in place, so that people are informed, so that there is no one in America who waits an undue amount of time in order to be able to cast a vote.
We have to pass the Count Every Vote Act that Senator Clinton, Senator Boxer, and I have introduced which ensures exactly what the Senator from Oregon was talking about: that every voter in America has a verifiable paper trail for their vote.
How can we have a system where you can touch a screen and even after you touch the name of one candidate on the screen, the other candidate's name comes up, and if you are not attentive to what you have done and you just go in, touch the screen, push ``select,'' you voted for someone else and didn't intend to? How can we have a system like that?
How can we have a system where the voting machines are proprietary to a private business so that the public sector has no way of verifying what the computer code is and whether or not it is accountable and fair? Just accounting for it.


Congress has to ensure that every vote cast in America is counted, that every precinct in America has a fair distribution of voting machines, that voter suppression and intimidation are un-American and must cease.
We had examples in the last election of people who were sent notices--obviously fake, but they were sent them and they confused them enough. They were told that if you have an outstanding parking ticket, you can't vote. They were told: Democrats vote on Wednesday and Republicans vote on Tuesday and various different things.
It is important for us to guarantee that in the United States of America, this right that was fought for so hard through so much of the difficult history of our country, we finally make real the full measure of that right.
I yield the floor. I thank the Chair and I thank my colleague for her forbearance.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from California is recognized.

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dogman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 04:28 PM
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13. I attended an MCM lecture just a couple of weeks ago.
According to him it was more than just a "yeah". That is why he was astounded that Kerry denied even discussing the election with him. The linked interview was published in December of '05. Apparently Kerry has since thought along the lines of what Miller discusses in the portion I snipped. I'm just wondering why he denied it then, but started embracing it within a month according to your time line. As I have noted the issue is bigger than Kerry and I hope he can get legislation enacted. We are already facing the '06 election without protection. I wish he and all Democratic leaders could have come to an understanding earlier. Just as they were slow to counter the Swift Boat liars, they have been too slow on this. If we don't win enough seats in '06, it may be too late for '08. Election reform is presently more important than any potential candidate. As for the AP mention, I see no link or credit in the OP. Thank you for answering my question as to whether he has addressed this issue.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 06:57 PM
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14. Mr. Kerry seems to have been living under a rock regarding Ohio voting...
too little too late John...
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 07:00 PM
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15. In what way? He's spoken of it many times since Nov '04. nt
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