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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 08:18 AM
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They Shoot Workers, Don't They?
Edited on Mon Sep-04-06 08:20 AM by welshTerrier2
Well, another Labor Day has arrived ... a day to reflect on the American worker ... kind of a sad day this year, isn't it? can anyone honestly say things are looking good for America's working men and women?

This hopefully very short post is going to try to explain why it's all gone wrong and why it inevitably had to go wrong ... the answer is a very simple (some will say way over-simplified) one word explanation ... ready?

Capitalism ...

I'm going to define "capitalism" as follows (everyone gets to have their own definition):

Capitalism in an economic system that SERVES THE NEEDS OF BUSINESS OWNERS (think "stockholders") ahead of the needs of workers.

That's it ... plain ... and simple ...

The result of capitalism? you're looking at it ... unions accept lower wages and lesser benefits to keep their jobs ... factories move to Mexico to produce more returns for the stockholders ... jobs, even high-paying high tech jobs, go to cheaper labor markets to, say it with me now, produce more returns for the stockholders ...

Let's make this really simple: you either make the American worker the highest priority of your economic system or you don't ... capitalism, at least according to my definition, clearly does NOT ...

It's time to put an end to the abuses of this system ... and it's time for the Democratic Party to put workers first ... My view is that the Democratic Party is doing little more than putting bandaids on a very defective economic system ... the Party is committed to workers in the sense of "repairing the damage" ... it's time to overturn the system that is causing the damage in the first place ... it's time to put into place a system that values an hour of labor more than it values the investment of a dollar of capital ...

It's Labor Day today ... let's make it a day that we commit to teaching America that our system caters to the short-term objectives of stockholders more than it serves the needs of American workers ... it's time for Democrats to start working on changing that ...
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 08:23 AM
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1. San Francisco police arrest 65 in hotel worker protest
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 08:25 AM
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2. "I spoke to AFLCIO Richard Trumka on CSPAN this morning."
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 08:29 AM
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3. Capitalism
An economic system that SERVES THE NEEDS OF BUSINESS OWNERS ahead of the needs of workers, consumers and society in general.
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 08:52 AM
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6. a fine definition ...
i appreciate your enhancement ...
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 08:35 AM
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4. So, what's your suggested alternative to capitalism?
There are many variations of capitalism...if you mean "unregulated capitalism" aka "laissez-faire" capitalism please so specify.

Regardless, what do you propose as an alternative economic system?
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 09:02 AM
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7. regulations ...
Edited on Mon Sep-04-06 09:04 AM by welshTerrier2
i think the first step, a much more important step, is to acknowledge that we cannot sustain ourselves with a system that puts the interests of stockholders ahead of the interests of workers, consumers and the greater society ...

if i must get tagged with a label, i'm probably best labeled a socialist or a democratic socialist ... i also read something a while ago about, and i'm not sure i remember the label correctly, an economic libertarian (this was somehow distinguished from the libertarian philosophy with which i rarely agree) ...

the REAL battle that needs to happen is between those who think we just need to "patch up capitalism" with a few more regulations and we'll be all set ...

I do NOT agree that will be sufficient ...

it's not that i'm unsupportive of those efforts ... for example, we need stronger environmental protections to regulate the greedy profit motives of business ... business would ignore every single environmental regulation if we let them because they see their job as catering to their stockholders INSTEAD OF DOING WHAT'S RIGHT ...

and we need to regulate business so that they can no longer dominate our government and our political processes ...

all of these things are necessary ...

but in the end, it's most important to build a system that demands that society's needs, especially including the needs of workers, is valued more than the value of "capital" ... it's that simple ... if a system of capitalism can exist where that objective is met by increased regulations, and i would call it socialism, than that system of "regulated capitalism" is fine with me ...

whatever the label, the goal is to value work above capital ...
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 09:14 AM
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8. DING DING DING! WelshTerrier, you're our grand prize winner!
capitalism - regulation = corporate fascism.

:headbang:
rocknation
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bperci108 Donating Member (969 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 10:33 AM
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11. The first step:
The end of "corporate personhood".

Corporations should be chartered by the states for a short, finite time, at which time they will be reviewed to see if they actually operate in the best interests of the public.

If not, they are dissolved.





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bperci108 Donating Member (969 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 10:39 AM
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12. How about this.
The Preamble of the Constitution of the Industrial Workers of the World:

"The working class and the employing class have nothing in common. There can be no peace so long as hunger and want are found among millions of the working people and the few, who make up the employing class, have all the good things of life.

Between these two classes a struggle must go on until the workers of the world organize as a class, take possession of the means of production, abolish the wage system, and live in harmony with the Earth.

We find that the centering of the management of industries into fewer and fewer hands makes the trade unions unable to cope with the ever growing power of the employing class. The trade unions foster a state of affairs which allows one set of workers to be pitted against another set of workers in the same industry, thereby helping defeat one another in wage wars. Moreover, the trade unions aid the employing class to mislead the workers into the belief that the working class have interests in common with their employers.

These conditions can be changed and the interest of the working class upheld only by an organization formed in such a way that all its members in any one industry, or in all industries if necessary, cease work whenever a strike or lockout is on in any department thereof, thus making an injury to one an injury to all.

Instead of the conservative motto, "A fair day's wage for a fair day's work," we must inscribe on our banner the revolutionary watchword, "Abolition of the wage system."

It is the historic mission of the working class to do away with capitalism. The army of production must be organized, not only for everyday struggle with capitalists, but also to carry on production when capitalism shall have been overthrown. By organizing industrially we are forming the structure of the new society within the shell of the old."


Just some food for thought. ;)

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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 08:45 AM
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5. The struggle continues....
<snip>
Leon Trotsky’s
The Workers’ State, Thermidor and Bonapartism

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Written: February 1, 1935
First Published: July, 1935
Source: New International, New York, Volume 2, Number 7, July 1935, pages 116-122.

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The foreign policies of the Stalinist bureaucracy—within both its channels: the primary one of diplomacy and the subsidiary channel of the Comintern—have taken a sharp turn toward the League of Nations, toward the preservation of the status quo and toward alliances with reformists and bourgeois democracy. At the same time, the domestic policies have turned toward the market and the “well-to-do collective farmer.” The latest drive against oppositionist and semioppositionist groups, as well as against isolated elements who are in the least critical, and the new mass purge of the party have as their object giving Stalin a free hand for the course to the right. Involved here is essentially the return to the old organic course (staking all on the kulak, alliance with the Kuomintang, the Anglo-Russian Committee, etc.) but on a much larger scale and under immeasurably more onerous conditions. Where does this course lead? The word “Thermidor” is heard again on many lips. Unfortunately, this word has become worn from use; it has lost its concrete content and is obviously inadequate for the task of characterizing either that stage through which the Stalinist bureaucracy is passing or the catastrophe that it is preparing. We must, first of all, establish our terminology.

The question of “Thermidor” is bound up closely with the history of the Left Opposition in the USSR. It would be no easy task today to establish who resorted first to the historical analogy of Thermidor. In any case, the positions on this issue in 1926 were approximately as follows: the group of “Democratic Centralism” (V.M. Smirnov, Sapronov and others who were hounded to death in exile by Stalin) declared, “Thermidor is an accomplished fact!” The adherents to the platform of the Left Opposition, the Bolshevik-Leninists, categorically denied this assertion. And it was over this issue that a split occurred. Who has proved to be correct? To answer this question, we must establish precisely what each group itself understood “Thermidor” to mean; historical analogies allow of various interpretations and may therefore be easily abused.

The late V.M. Smirnov—one of the finest representatives of the Old Bolshevik school—held that the lag in industrialization, the growth of the kulak and of the Nepman (the new bourgeois), the liaison between the latter and the bureaucracy and, finally, the degeneration of the party had progressed so far as to render impossible a return to the socialist road without a new revolution. The proletariat had already lost power. With the crushing of the Left Opposition, the bureaucracy began to express the interests of a regenerating bourgeois regime. The fundamental conquests of the October Revolution had been liquidated. Such was in its essentials the position of the group of “Democratic Centralists.”

The Left Opposition argued that although the elements of dual power had indubitably begun to sprout within the country, the transition from these elements to the hegemony of the bourgeoisie could not occur otherwise than by means of a counterrevolutionary overturn. The bureaucracy was already linked to the Nepman and the kulak, but its main roots still extend into the working class. In its struggle against the Left Opposition, the bureaucracy undoubtedly was dragging behind it a heavy tail in the shape of Nepmen and kulaks. But on the morrow this tail would strike a blow at the head, that is, at the ruling bureaucracy. New splits within the bureaucratic ranks were inevitable. Face to face with the direct danger of a counterrevolutionary overturn, the basic core of the centrist bureaucracy would lean upon the workers for support against the growing rural bourgeoisie. The outcome of the conflict was still far from having been decided. The burial of the October Revolution was premature. The crushing of the Left Opposition facilitated the work of “Thermidor.” But “Thermidor” had not yet occurred.
<more>
http://www.marxists.org/archive/trotsky/works/1935/1935-bon.htm

<also see> http://www.workersliberty.org/node/6739
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 09:30 AM
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9. Capitalism...
“Capitalism is the legitimate racket of the ruling class” -- Al Capone
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 09:39 AM
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10. LOL ...
that's just painfully true ...
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