Stinky The Clown
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Tue Sep-05-06 10:41 AM
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Can you concieve of yourself giving up? |
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What if we win nothing in the midterms? Is it be possible you'd give up?
What if we win nothing in the midterms and nothing in 08? Is it be possible you'd give up?
What if, after the midterms, where we win the House, they declare martial law and put the country on lockdown? Is it be possible you'd give up?
What if every ugly thing postulated in Orwell's "1984" were to come to pass? Is it be possible you'd give up?
Can you conceive of a situation in which you'd just curl up into a fetal position and suck your thumb untl you die?
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Tue Sep-05-06 10:48 AM
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1. No but I'm 65 years old and don't have a long time to look forward to |
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I don't know how I'd feel if I were say, 45, but now I'm so fucking mad at these pricks nothing is gonna change my mind.
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Tue Sep-05-06 10:48 AM
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Tue Sep-05-06 10:50 AM
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3. I think if the election brings no change |
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an awful lot more people are going to get it that something is radically wrong.
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Tue Sep-05-06 10:56 AM
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4. No, I'll split and be an expat pain in the ass |
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People outside a country have been known to be successful in overturning dictatorships, but it doesn't happen often and only comes about when they're successful in mobilizing enough people to go and fight a revolution.
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Tue Sep-05-06 10:57 AM
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Reason is, I remember growing up in a different America. It wasn't perfect but we were working on that. Now I see so much of the hard work crushed. I keep thinking that little kids today deserve better than to grow up under fascism. They're worth fighting for.
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Stinky The Clown
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Tue Sep-05-06 11:03 AM
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8. Yup ..... I'm kinda like TulareTom, in post #1 ...... I'm 60 years old and |
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don't give a shit about *me* very much anymore. I want my kids to be better off than I ever even hoped for. I'd rather go down fighting than give up.
There are days when I am nearly reduced to tears. There are other days that are filled with rage. There's never a day that has complacency or contentment.
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Tue Sep-05-06 10:59 AM
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does not permit me to "give up" but my frustration level will go from orange to red.
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Tue Sep-05-06 11:00 AM
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7. depends what you mean by "give up"... |
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if the Dems don't win back at least one house, I'll likely move to Canada. That doesn't mean I'm giving up, but I will do what I think necessary to protect my family from the continued erosion of the Constitution, and to avoid, without harsh penalties for tax evasion, paying for torture, stolen elections, illegal wars and wiretaps.
Even if the Dems win back the House and/or Senate, if they continue to play ball with this administration instead of fighting back for our rights, I will likely leave as well. My gut tells me if they win back the House, Conyers et al will fight for our rights, but if we only take back the Senate (less likely), there will be less motivation to rock the boat.
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Tue Sep-05-06 11:05 AM
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9. I'm actually getting angrier, didn't know there was more room for |
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that. But I am finding myself fighting mad about this stuff when I was so disheartened for so much of the time.
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Tue Sep-05-06 11:09 AM
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10. If I was gonna give up, I'd have done it already... |
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your latter two scenarions, the martial law and 1984 ones, would only make me get even more nasty than I already am.
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Tue Sep-05-06 11:15 AM
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11. NEVER GIVE UP, NEVER GIVE IN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Or this country is dead. Everything it ever stood for will be gone. America will cease to exist. Everything she ever stood for will be gone. I will fight until I am no more.
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Tue Sep-05-06 11:18 AM
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12. At the moment, my "total committment" to this Party and the political |
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Edited on Tue Sep-05-06 11:24 AM by Totally Committed
process is time-limited. I'm no Spring Chicken, so unless my health intervenes, I plan on giving it another couple of years of fighting as hard as I can for what I believe in. If, at the end of the 2008 Presidential elections, we still haven't won back this government, that'll be it for me. The only way I would give up before the 2008 elections of my own free will is if a DLC candidate is nominated by this Party. I'll be officially out of the mix if that's the case as well. Mexico, or maybe Ireland, look good for living on a fixed income... or maybe I'll just retire to the desert southwest and paint and write for the rest of my life. Dunno. I do know that after a lifetime of devotion and dedication to this Party with less every day to show for it, I will feel no guilt walking away.
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Tue Sep-05-06 11:26 AM
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I'm too close to DC. I can protest every weekend if I have to.
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Tue Sep-05-06 11:30 AM
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The last three have no possibility of happening. Sorry, but it's too tin foil hat for me.
#1 is extremely possible, however. WE may not have the votes, despite favorable polls at the present time. Even if we do, think Diebold.
However, if #1 happens, I don't think we should give up. I do think we should examine everything about the campaign: the candidates, the issues and our positions on them, our presentation of the issues, our non-presentation of the issues, the possibility of fraud, the character of the American people.
Then come up with a better plan for 2008.
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Tue Sep-05-06 11:44 AM
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Tue Sep-05-06 11:48 AM
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16. I wouldn't give up, but I'd be carrying on the fight as a Canadian. nt |
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Tue Sep-05-06 07:40 PM
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17. If the Repugs win and/or retain congress, |
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Tue Sep-05-06 09:05 PM
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It will be because the elections were stolen. And if we don't riot then I give up. Give up and go live my life without concern for the idiots that let a bunch of crooks steal the American dream.
Not curl up and fade away, nope, just realize that the world as I once knew it is not at all like what I knew.
This is it.... our last chance. We've been ripped off and if folks can't get it through their thick skulls that they've done it again.....
I'll give it my best shot and hope that the stolen elections are ended, but reading DU gives me scant hope.
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Brian Stevens
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Tue Sep-05-06 11:09 PM
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Good changes happen (even if temparary) when a riot happens. Look at Watts, it accelerated civil rights legeslation. LA Riots put new standards to their police dept. SO there are times, offtimes, violence could be the answer.
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Tue Sep-05-06 08:47 PM
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18. No, No, No, No, and No. |
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Tue Sep-05-06 09:35 PM
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20. give up? no way. I might hide in Cooking & Baking for a couple months |
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like I did in 11/04 but I'll bounce back
but i did and am taking some major steps to ensure my survival and comfort "just in case"
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Tue Sep-05-06 11:23 PM
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22. Maybe once, but not anymore. |
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It's not just about ME anymore, not just my personal opinion or preference or feelings.
This is some very serious shit going down right now. There's nowhere left in the world to run away to, and giving in won't help for long.
"NEVER giving up" is really the only remaining option that offers even the HOPE of a happy ending for anyone.
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Wed Sep-06-06 12:03 AM
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23. Did we give up when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? |
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Hell no!
As a patriot, my response would depend on the perceived degree and extent of the threat to the Constitution and my country.
'Nuf said.
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Wed Sep-06-06 12:20 AM
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not in my nature, not at all
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Wed Sep-06-06 12:59 AM
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25. If they attack more countries & reinstate the draft I can see myself |
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taking my draft aged son and daughter and leaving the country
because no way in hell am I going to sacrifice my children for the
sake of their crazy PNAC plan.
Other than that I plan to STAY AND FIGHT LIKE HELL!!!!!!
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