Do the pubs *want* to lose the House?

[bain_sidhe]

Maybe I'm crazy, but I keep getting this feeling that they do. I base this on the fact that they really, REALLY want to keep the Presidency in 08, because either Stevens or Ginsburg will likely retire from the Supreme Court in the next President's term (if illness doesn't drive them off before).

These people play a long game. We know that. Losing the House won't stop them from packing the courts with corpro-theo-fascist judges, and THAT'S what they really want. If they can do that, it won't matter who's in office, they'll rule for a generation.

There's all kinds of "bad news" on the economy coming out (like the stagnating wages, corporate profits) that they never used to let come out. Why are the MSM suddenly talking about this stuff?

And we KNOW there's a lot more bad stuff coming down the pike - mortgage rates forcing people into bankruptcy, losing their houses, the housing bust, more unemployment, more jobs going overseas, the dollar diving...

So, let the sheeple take all their anger out on the pubs *now*, and "get over it" by '08. So, they "let" the Dems take the House - where, I might note, we still can't stop judicial appointments - and fight/cheat like hell, to keep the Senate, keep packing the courts, and just wait for the shit they've set up to hit the fan, and point to the Dem control of the House as the reason for it...

They rehabilitate the "Republican image" (and put some distance between the ongoing scandals and their current total control of the government) in the public mind in time for '08.

Whaddya think?

[Singular73]

1. The media smells blood.

If they think the country is swinging left, they will swing along with it.

Its really that simple.

Fox News' ratings are diving. That pushes the rest of the corporate media to the left.

No other choice. If you think of everything in terms of money, everything truly makes sense.

[bain_sidhe]

2. Then why is the msm flogging

the meme that the dems can take the House but not the Senate? I've seen the same storyline EVERYWHERE.

Maybe it's true. But, as "dissatisfied" and "anti-incumbent" as they *also* are saying the voters are, why *wouldn't* it translate into taking the Senate too? Or at least, why don't at least *some* media reports consider the possiblity? It's becoming almost a foregone conclusion that Dems probably won't take the Senate. Why?

After all, House seats are FAR more protected by redistricting than Senate seats are...

Why aren't any of these blood-smelling reporters even *mentioning* that?

**edited for stupid rewrite error**

[Singular73]

3. Well, Im a radical frothing-at-the-mouth lefty and...

I don't think we'll take the Senate.

To be honest, I'll be REALLY happy taking the house, followed by the entire kit and kaboodle in 08.

Senate ain't gonna happen.

[bain_sidhe]

4. So, you're going with "crazy", huh?

Oh well, it's not like I've never been wrong before. ;-)

Still. If/when we DO take the House, we're going to have to be very, very vigilant about not letting the pubs blame us for this mess.

[nadinbrzezinski]

6. They will anyway

I am serious. Look in regular life people blame individuals for thigns they have no power over...so what makes you think they will not blame us for this... hell if they could they woudl blame watergate on Clinton

[nadinbrzezinski]

5. And I am cynical I don't think we will retake anything

[Massacure]

9. Its hard to take the senate because only 1/3 of the seats are up.

So in essence you can only tap 1/3 of the momentum for the senate. If the momentum carries into 2008, taking it shouldn't be too difficult.

[Cronus Protagonist]

7. If they lose the house, there will be impeachment motions

And investigations. It's all or nothing for them now.

[bain_sidhe]

10. I imagine they think they can stonewall

any investigations long enough - and point to them as reasons why 'nothing is getting done." They're already setting that meme up, you know. All their chatter about how if Dems take the House they'll waste everybody's time with investigations instead of doing "real" work like making the rich richer and passing Bullshit's enabling acts.

And if they keep the Senate, Impeachment won't go anywhere either. And corpro-theo-fascist judges will still get appointed and confirmed.

[skids]

8. They played the brink too close.

The economy is degrading faster than they expected. Unless there's a MIHOP terrorist event to blame it on, there's no way they'll be able to blame it on dems, because they will not be able to sustain the illusion long enough. About the best they will be able to do is say "people sold their stocks off when they saw Dems take the house" which would be an amusing desperation ploy but wouldn't work.

[bain_sidhe]

11. Maybe...

About the best they will be able to do is say "people sold their stocks off when they saw Dems take the house" which would be an amusing desperation ploy but wouldn't work.

Are you sure? I'm not. They've sold the 'murkin people on stupider stuff in the past.

[Renew Deal]

12. Partly

They figure they can blame stuff on Democrats at that point. Currently it's all their fault. I've heard Bill Kristol and others say that. I think it's a bad bet for them.