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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 04:46 PM
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Berger on Wolfie - He was FURIOUS at ABC/Disney!
Said the conumentary was "rotten to the core" and can't be fixed. It must be pulled. When pressed about a lawsuit he said "we'll see".

Fighting Dems! YES!! :kick:
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 04:47 PM
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1. Unless ABC pulls this POS, I will BOYCOTT DISNEY/ABC properties!
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 04:48 PM
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2. Me too. Absolutely.
We have two little ones in the family and were thinking about Disney Land for a vacation. NO WAY NOW. :mad:
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 08:39 PM
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9. Take them camping. A much more rewarding experience.
Don't allow them to become addicted to Disney.
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kaygore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 05:52 PM
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7. My email to the local ABC affiliate
Propaganda is NOT a family value.

I have already contacted ABC headquarters and Disney's Bob Iger to register my shock and displeasure that Disney and ABC are using their corporate positions, the public airways, and the public's trust to spew propaganda and lies.

I can not even begin to imagine what has prompted ABC and Disney to even consider funding let alone broadcasting a series that libels members of the Clinton administration when, in truth, the blame for 9/11 lies with a Republican Congress that would not heed the warnings of the very people "Path to 9/11" claims are to blame for the terrorists attacks.

Nearly 80% of the programs I watch on TV are on ABC: "Boston Legal," "Lost," "Desperate Housewives," "Grey's Anatomy," "The Nightly News," and the list goes on and on; however, I have not only vowed to NOT watch ANY ABC show again (this includes Tivo and DVR) but to actively solicit advertisers to drop all support of national and local ABC programming as well as all Disney related channels (Disney, Family, ESPN, etc.)

All I can think it that the leadership of ABC and Disney are incompetent and incapable of considering the blow back from "Path to 9/11." Do you think that those tight-ass RWers are the mainstay of your TV audience? Think of the content of your most popular shows and you know the answer.

The writer is known for his uncompromising right-wing bias. David Cunningham, director of "The Path to 9/11," is the son of Loren Cunningham, founder of the worldwide evangelical group Youth With a Mission. "Path to 9/11" is produced by a ghost production company, UHP Productions, that just happens to share at least one corporate officer and location with Disney Corp!

At what point do we stop being outraged and become frightened that two major public companies are so intent on lies and deception?

The blow back from airing this propaganda will not only be the public's loss of faith in two American icons but loss of faith in the mainstream broadcast media in general.

With much concern,
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 05:56 PM
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8. BRAVO!
Great letter! :applause:
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MattP Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 04:52 PM
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3. No Pet Goat
How could anybody make a film about 911 and leave out the Pet goat scene, I mean WTF!!!
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 04:52 PM
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4. I wish Clinton had as much fight in him as his appointees
All it would take to kill this POS at this point is a Clinton press conference where he came out swinging and showed some spirit denouncing it. Instead he is content to hide behind his attorney and PR people. He's being swiftboated big time, far beyond anything that happened to Kerry and he's letting it happen.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 04:55 PM
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5. Maybe he will do it for Hillary.
HE has nothing to lose, so what the hey.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 05:06 PM
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6. He was on TV a couple hours ago denouncing it
Unfortunately, I was at a restaurant, and I couldn't hear everything he said, but he come out and say something about it being filled with innacuracies and that ABC should not air it.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 09:08 PM
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11. Clinton's skill was always getting people to agree with his position
You may have noticed some conservatives also calling for the docu drama to be fixed. At this point there has been plenty of statements against airing the program, Disney/ABC is trying to weather the storm but we will have to see. I do not think a more angry Bill is what works, its not his style.
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Sam Odom Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 08:48 PM
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10. Sandy Berger wrong man to be out front on this
Edited on Fri Sep-08-06 08:52 PM by Sam Odom
He's a convicted crook pertaining to this issue and everyone must ask which docs were taken and why. Do not give me heat on this one. We need to draw the line somewhere.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 09:13 PM
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12. oh please!
:banghead:

what does that have to do with anything?? Berger got his hand slapped about documents and has nothing to do with the subject at hand. Namely this travesty of truth that is being fed to the American public as "history"

geez!
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Sam Odom Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 09:18 PM
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13. "nothing to do with the subject at hand"
Edited on Fri Sep-08-06 09:19 PM by Sam Odom
You should perhaps google a bit
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:45 PM
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14. I remember the brouhaha over Berger and the documents
but that has nothing to do with the ABC lieathon

while he was incorrect in his handling of the secret documents, that doesn't change the fact that ABC is misrepresenting his (and many others) actions in the Clinton administration
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Sam Odom Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:50 PM
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15. Sandy may be right but still...
Would you believe Scooter Libby on anything concerning plamegate? Berger has dirty hands.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:54 PM
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16. may I just say BS
since he's not the only one screaming bloody murder about the lies in the show

and I haven't seen him "out in front" at all. he's just one of the many people being slandered and as such has a right to defend himself
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Sam Odom Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 12:01 AM
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17. Have a nice weekend
:loveya:
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 12:02 AM
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18. and to you as well!
you can be sure I won't be watching ABC either

:rofl:
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 12:16 AM
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20. Libby is a liar...Berger isn't. I'd believe him.
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Sam Odom Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 12:18 AM
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21. Berger is a convicted liar/thief
Believe want u want tho
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 08:08 AM
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26. that's pretty harsh. comparing him taking some documents to his
Edited on Sat Sep-09-06 08:10 AM by AZDemDist6
office is a far cry from outing an undercover intelligence officer then lying to authorities about it

it was a witch hunt big time. and if you don't know that, maybe YOU should google a bit

http://mediamatters.org/items/200407230001
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Sam Odom Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 09:47 AM
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32. Not harsh, just true n/t
n/t
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 08:59 AM
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28. Show us what you have
got some links with real information, not just freeper bs?
Berger was the target of another faux GOP scandal campaign. We only make them stronger when we cave in to their attempts at character assasination.
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Sam Odom Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 09:46 AM
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31. Friday, April 1, 2005
Berger Will Plead Guilty To Taking Classified Paper

By John F. Harris and Allan Lengel
Washington Post Staff Writers
Friday, April 1, 2005; Page A01

Samuel R. "Sandy" Berger, a former White House national security adviser, plans to plead guilty to a misdemeanor, and will acknowledge intentionally removing and destroying copies of a classified document about the Clinton administration's record on terrorism.

Berger's plea agreement, which was described yesterday by his advisers and was confirmed by Justice Department officials, will have one of former president Bill Clinton's most influential advisers and one of the Democratic Party's leading foreign policy advisers in a federal court this afternoon.

The deal's terms make clear that Berger spoke falsely last summer in public claims that in 2003 he twice inadvertently walked off with copies of a classified document during visits to the National Archives, then later lost them.

He described the episode last summer as "an honest mistake." Yesterday, a Berger associate who declined to be identified by name but was speaking with Berger's permission said: "He recognizes what he did was wrong. . . . It was not inadvertent."

Under terms negotiated by Berger's attorneys and the Justice Department, he has agreed to pay a $10,000 fine and accept a three-year suspension of his national security clearance. These terms must be accepted by a judge before they are final, but Berger's associates said yesterday he believes that closure is near on what has been an embarrassing episode during which he repeatedly misled people about what happened during two visits to the National Archives in September and October 2003.

Lanny Breuer, Berger's attorney, said in a statement: "Mr. Berger has cooperated fully with the Department of Justice and is pleased that a resolution appears very near. He accepts complete responsibility for his actions, and regrets the mistakes he made during his review of documents at the National Archives."

The terms of Berger's agreement required him to acknowledge to the Justice Department the circumstances of the episode. Rather than misplacing or unintentionally throwing away three of the five copies he took from the archives, as the former national security adviser earlier maintained, he shredded them with a pair of scissors late one evening at the downtown offices of his international consulting business.

The document, written by former National Security Council terrorism expert Richard A. Clarke, was an "after-action review" prepared in early 2000 detailing the administration's actions to thwart terrorist attacks during the millennium celebration. It contained considerable discussion about the administration's awareness of the rising threat of attacks on U.S. soil.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 08:57 AM
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27. Berger has been a target of freepers, big deal
We should consider that as a compliment to Berger.
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Sam Odom Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 09:45 AM
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30. Reality check
Berger Will Plead Guilty To Taking Classified Paper

By John F. Harris and Allan Lengel
Washington Post Staff Writers
Friday, April 1, 2005; Page A01

Samuel R. "Sandy" Berger, a former White House national security adviser, plans to plead guilty to a misdemeanor, and will acknowledge intentionally removing and destroying copies of a classified document about the Clinton administration's record on terrorism.

Berger's plea agreement, which was described yesterday by his advisers and was confirmed by Justice Department officials, will have one of former president Bill Clinton's most influential advisers and one of the Democratic Party's leading foreign policy advisers in a federal court this afternoon.

The deal's terms make clear that Berger spoke falsely last summer in public claims that in 2003 he twice inadvertently walked off with copies of a classified document during visits to the National Archives, then later lost them.

He described the episode last summer as "an honest mistake." Yesterday, a Berger associate who declined to be identified by name but was speaking with Berger's permission said: "He recognizes what he did was wrong. . . . It was not inadvertent."

Under terms negotiated by Berger's attorneys and the Justice Department, he has agreed to pay a $10,000 fine and accept a three-year suspension of his national security clearance. These terms must be accepted by a judge before they are final, but Berger's associates said yesterday he believes that closure is near on what has been an embarrassing episode during which he repeatedly misled people about what happened during two visits to the National Archives in September and October 2003.

Lanny Breuer, Berger's attorney, said in a statement: "Mr. Berger has cooperated fully with the Department of Justice and is pleased that a resolution appears very near. He accepts complete responsibility for his actions, and regrets the mistakes he made during his review of documents at the National Archives."

The terms of Berger's agreement required him to acknowledge to the Justice Department the circumstances of the episode. Rather than misplacing or unintentionally throwing away three of the five copies he took from the archives, as the former national security adviser earlier maintained, he shredded them with a pair of scissors late one evening at the downtown offices of his international consulting business.

The document, written by former National Security Council terrorism expert Richard A. Clarke, was an "after-action review" prepared in early 2000 detailing the administration's actions to thwart terrorist attacks during the millennium celebration. It contained considerable discussion about the administration's awareness of the rising threat of attacks on U.S. soil.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 12:11 AM
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19. Get your facts straight
before you post. He used poor judgment and made a harmless mistake. That doesn't make him a crook!
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 12:29 AM
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22. I'm trying to figure Sam Odom out on this....
Edited on Sat Sep-09-06 12:29 AM by larissa
He's been defending ABC all night...

What the hell got into you Sam???

(there, I fixed your name.. O-D-O-M)
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Sam Odom Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 12:41 AM
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23. "defending ABC" Hardly
I just wrote they would cover their legal ass & they have many many lawyers on the payroll
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 09:03 AM
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29. Oh my
We are delusional today.

Welcome to DU :hi:, I don't expect you'll be around long.

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laugle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 12:48 AM
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24. I heard early this morning on Franken that "Variety"
the Hollywood paper was claiming that the movie was going to be pulled.

I've heard nothing since.......did anyone hear about this????
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Sam Odom Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 12:50 AM
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25. Yes
I think ABC are editing. But who knows outside of ABC
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