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ringmastery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 05:32 PM
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Again Evan Byah mentioned as possible Kerry VP pick
Just now on CNN, pundit Carlos Watson, anyone know how accurate he is?

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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 05:33 PM
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1. I still think Harry Reid's a better choice. nt
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D G Donating Member (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 05:33 PM
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2. I guess we'll see how accurate he is
when Kerry actually picks a VP.

Oh, you wanted a serious answer? :crazy:
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Mattforclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 05:34 PM
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3. As a general rule,
If it is on CNN, and said by a pundit, it probably has no basis in fact whatsoever.
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edzontar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 05:35 PM
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4. He would be a perfect match....
Since he is perhaps the most conservative Dem in the Senate this side of Zell Miller.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 05:49 PM
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13. ...and he voted for the war, didn't he?
?
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 05:35 PM
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5. he MIGHT be repeating Kaus...but I sure as SHITSKYS hope Kerry...
isn't considering this
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 05:37 PM
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6. I'm still hoping for some
miracle that would preclude such a possibility. There will still be angry dems out there.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 05:41 PM
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7. At first, I thought Bayh would be good and help in farm states, but
some IN people said he would not help in IN. What say, IN folks?
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Voltaire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 05:53 PM
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16. Bayh will not help in Indiana
I live in Indianapolis and I can tell you that Bayh is not a big Democratic favorite is. He has a lot of name recognition because of his dad.
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HoosierClarkie Donating Member (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 06:27 PM
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25. Indiana resident here
The only good that could come out of Evan Bayh being on the ticket is getting our Dem party more organized to beat Mitch Daniels who is running for Governor! We have a fight on our hands. I am already seeing ads. :(

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bushwakker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 06:36 PM
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28. Dems cannot carry IN even with Bayh
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pmbryant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 05:41 PM
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8. If Kerry gets the nom, I think a non-Senator would be Kerry's best choice
Clark or Dean or some other prominent non-Senator would best complement Kerry's strengths, I think.

Of course, Kerry is a long way from wrapping this thing up. ;-)

--Peter
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 05:47 PM
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11. I think Kerry probably recognizes that as well
I'm wondering about Spitzer although as a northeasterner, we have that southern thing to contend with.
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pmbryant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 06:20 PM
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24. Spitzer would be a better match for Clark or even Edwards.
I don't think he is a good match for Kerry though. That ticket would be way too Northeastern.

--Peter
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 06:37 PM
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29. Not to mention the other Senate seat we'd lose
we've gotta be thinking about this stuff.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 05:41 PM
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9. the lameness of this rumor
is surpassed only by the lameness of those who keep trying to push it as if it has any basis in reality.

Kaus reported that he had a "semi-reliable" source who said that Kerry's polling showed Bayh to be a better electoral choice for VP than edwards.

Semi-reliable

Polling data only

Nothing about Kerry CHOOSING this...

it's so baseless it's laughable
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 06:00 PM
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19. EXACTLY. The rumor was probably started by another camp.
Or by Bayh. heh
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mot78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 05:44 PM
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10. I sure as hell hope Kerry doesn't
Bayh is a supreme DINO, only liberal compared to Zell and Koch.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 05:48 PM
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12. Sure, why not? Why not Bayh? or Gephardt? or Lieberman?
How about Zell Miller for Kerry's running mate?

It's bad enough to have to undergo therapy to be able to vote for Kerry, and now you want to add more baggage to the ticket?

Bring it on!

:puke:
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 05:52 PM
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15. Zell Miller would make Kerry EVEN MORE electable, right?
Edited on Fri Feb-06-04 05:52 PM by janx
:puke:

Let's hear it for President Kerry and Vice President Miller!
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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 05:50 PM
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14. Too Reminiscent Of Mondale
Hillary would be a different thing, but that's not gonna happen, either.
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jmaier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 05:53 PM
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17. If they pick Bayh
and then win, the party loses the seat in Indiana for a generation. Given the challenges in holding onto Senate seats, it seems like the DNC would weigh in against this choice.
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BL_Zebub Donating Member (473 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 05:56 PM
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18. But isn't that exactly what Kerry is doing?
If he's the nominee, won't he be vacating a Senate seat and allowing Twit Romney to fill it?
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 06:06 PM
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20. I believe Senators that are appointed only serve a two year term
Edited on Fri Feb-06-04 06:07 PM by wuushew
Being Massachusetts I am not worried about the Dems ability to win back the seat.



Amendment XVII
(The proposed amendment was sent to the states May 16, 1912, by the Sixty-second Congress. It was ratified April 8, 1913.)




The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each State, elected by the people thereof, for six years; and each Senator shall have one vote. The electors in each State shall have the qualifications requisite for electors of the most numerous branch of the State Legislatures.

When vacancies happen in the representation of any State in the Senate, the executive authority of such State shall issue writs of election to fill such vacancies: Provided, that the legislature of any State may empower the executive thereof to make temporary appointment until the people fill the vacancies by election as the legislature may direct.

This amendment shall not be so construed as to affect the election or term of any Senator chosen before it becomes valid as part of the Constitution.

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jmaier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 06:09 PM
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21. I started a prediction thread around here that guesses Gephardt
- he is solid, and not a bad campaigner.
- he has strong party support and will play well in many sectors in the midwest
- he doesn't drain a key Senate seat or governships
- he'll have no problem standing up to Cheney

Of course, I'm not advocating this ticket, merely predicting it.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 06:11 PM
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22. i'm really hoping for
an african american.
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 06:14 PM
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23. How about Bill Richardson ?
Forget Dixie, grab votes in the southwest and stop the GOP's attempt to win hispanic votes.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 06:28 PM
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26. Richardson also
would work with southern voters.
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bushwakker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 06:35 PM
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27. I don't think Bayh gives them Indiana so what's the point
Dems will not carry IN even with Bayh. I like Gephardt alot as a VEEP choice for whomever gets the nomination.
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HoosierClarkie Donating Member (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 06:51 PM
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30. I am not so sure
Indiana in 2000:

Bush: 1,245,836
57

Gore: 901,980
41

We have a huge veterans population. Many who do not believe in the war. We have lost a lot of manufacturing jobs. We also have a growing Hispanic communty as well. People here are angry. Dean and Clark have huge grassroots here and our state has changed dramatically since 2000.
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 06:53 PM
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31. Why don't you look up the results of the 2002 mid-term elections?
plenty of other barometers to measure a state's redness.
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