ringmastery
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Fri Feb-06-04 06:47 PM
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Our most vulnerable Blue states - which states can bush poach from us? |
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Minnesota Wisconsin Iowa New Mexico
were very, very close in 2004.
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Fri Feb-06-04 06:48 PM
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1. I am fearful for Michigan. No strong UAW endorsement. |
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Poor showing of candidates...I shudder to think.
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Fri Feb-06-04 06:49 PM
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2. Granholm is populer though |
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won't she be pivotal in keeping michigan blue?
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Fri Feb-06-04 06:52 PM
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5. I don't know...I hope so, but a lot of people seem a bit angry over |
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the current job vs. budget scenario. My husband used to love her, now he'd put her on a dartboard. But of course, I will be making sure he votes Dem. ;)
The problems in Michigan are severe, and as witnessed in other states people can turn. This is my fear. I hope I am wrong.
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Fri Feb-06-04 07:01 PM
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11. Last poll I saw had her around 65% approval |
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Fri Feb-06-04 07:30 PM
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20. It was 63%, and unfortunately Bush also has the same 63% approval |
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rating which makes me want to...:puke:
This is a must win. It's anybody's state and someone had better make the labor forces happier sooner...
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Fri Feb-06-04 06:59 PM
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9. Michigan will not go for Bush |
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The fact that the UAW did not endorse a candidate in the primaries doesn't matter, the unions will work hard for the Democrat in the fall.
Michigan has the highest unemployment rate in the country, a bad sign for Bush.
The Arab-American vote went overwhelmingly for Bush in 2000 and will go strongly for the Democrat in 2004.
Michigan is more Democratic than it was in 2000 by any measure.
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Fri Feb-06-04 07:34 PM
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21. I hope you are right. We're a UAW family and I don't see very strong |
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support. I've been calling to get the vote out. Informed voters? yes. Uninformed voters (and there are a heck of a lot of them) no. I don't think you can look at this as an easy win. Let me put it this way, my husband is on of 2 non Republicans in his shop. One guy is a Libertarian/ my husband leans Democratic but is noncommital.
The UAW is the voting bicep of Michigan whether we care to think that way or not. They encouraged my brother in law to vote for Bush in 2000...and guess what he did?
We will have to work hard. :hi:
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Fri Feb-06-04 06:52 PM
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7. I don't think we can win OH |
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just seems that Dems always fll just short. On the other hand I think we can take back WV and NH (which Clinton won twice).
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Fri Feb-06-04 06:55 PM
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We should not have to worry about the paperless trails. It makes me wonder if their will be exit polls. There did not do them in 2000, why would they start back now?
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Fri Feb-06-04 06:51 PM
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4. PA, MI, WI, IA and MN are must wins |
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can't get to 270 without all of 'em. They can do it without OH and FL but it would be cutting it close.
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Fri Feb-06-04 06:59 PM
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New mexico and Pennsylvania will be close. Ridge will be fear-mongering all the way to the ballot box in his former state of Penn.
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Fri Feb-06-04 07:14 PM
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17. Steel tariffs in the city, Jobs bleeding out of the state |
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I really don't think I will live in a red state in November. You can't open a newspaper without reading about another plant closing down.
Plus we just elected a Dem to the Governor's office.
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Fri Feb-06-04 06:52 PM
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6. All of them, thanks to Diebold and GOP governors |
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Bush will assure his re-election through any means necessary, whether an attack on Syria or Iran, or (a sure bet) voter fraud. Not enough for a landslide, but just enough to assure what he will call a "mandate." Certainly not a close election. He will not give up power honestly and voluntarily. If need be, he will declare martial law. I really believe that, but they will put the mechanisms in place to steal it before such a drastic measure is tried. You read it here. Hope I'm wrong, but doubt it. Honest elections from this crowd? Sorry, no Easter Bunny or tooth fairy, either.
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Fri Feb-06-04 07:01 PM
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12. It depends upon the final nominee to some degree |
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but I don't really think that any of those 4 states are too vulnerable in '04. Perhaps I'm being optimistic but i also feel the same way about PA & MI.
My bigger concern is what states are we going to win back, especially assuming the south is probably not going to swing our direction? Ohio would be a big win and we'd have to fight for it on the JOBS issue. I think the right candidate and campaign effort could possibly pull in AZ and NV, and WV. From there, I'm not sure where the options are?
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Fri Feb-06-04 07:08 PM
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13. I believe that Minnesota will go for the Democrat. |
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Yes, we have a Republican governor and a Republican Senator.
But there were special circumstances each time.
In the governor's race, a Democrat ran on the Independence ticket and split the Democratic vote.
In the US Senate race, Paul Wellstone died in a plane crash shortly before the election.
It will take plenty of work from Minnesotan Democrats, but I believe that we can give our state's electoral votes to the Democrat.
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Fri Feb-06-04 07:12 PM
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Fri Feb-06-04 07:10 PM
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the Rovebots have been drooling over that chunk of Pitt and Philly with Alabama country in between for years.
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Fri Feb-06-04 07:17 PM
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18. LOL, He held a fundraiser one day in Pittsburg then dumped |
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the Steel tariffs within a week. I can tell you that a lot of Steel workers are really pissed. Holding his hand out looking for donations and then turning around and screwing them within a week.
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Fri Feb-06-04 07:12 PM
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16. I am not worried about those states |
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In a legit election there is a real Bush ennui, actually it's worse than that they despise the Chimpmeister.
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Fri Feb-06-04 07:26 PM
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19. California. Shelley isn't doing anything to get rid of the machines |
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No paper trail. Just machines that will turn Democratic votes to Republican. Shelley is also the reason Bush is on our ballot.
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