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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 01:41 PM
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Markos has a great post up about who is supporting the DSCC
and how much, and why it matters.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/9/19/1390/15284

DSCC and members
by kos
Tue Sep 19, 2006 at 01:09:00 PM EDT
"One of the key traits of party building is that members who have the financial means spend the money helping the party win elections. That includes things like campaigning for our candidates. But, as in all things politics, cold, hard cash is the most important measure of largess.

Today, the Hillary Clinton operation will announce a $1 million gift to the DSCC. Sounds impressive, but compared to her colleagues, it comes up woefully short.

Clinton currently has over $22 million in the bank without a serious opponent this November.

Also giving the DSCC $1 million gifts are Kennedy, Feinstein, and Durbin.

Kennedy has about $6.7 million in the bank, Feinstein has $8 million, and Durbin has $3 million.

Hillary can and should give more. Even if she is hoarding cash for a presidential run, an extra million or two can make a huge difference between a potentially friendly Dem-led Senate, and a Republican one that would investigate her administration to death."

I know the DNC is giving 2.6 million to the DCCC, but I don't think it has a set figure with the DSCC yet. Still negotiating, but 12 million overall in GOTV effort, the most ever by the DNC. That appears to be in addition to the state directors' salaries that have been hired.

It should be a joint effort while we build up a party that has been allowed to disintegrate outside of the DC power structure.

Note the figures for Jeffords and Lieberman in particular.

We are all in this together.


$$ to DSCC $$ CoH Next election

Carper: 100 2,500 2006
Dorgan: 100 700 2010
Harkin: 10 872 2008
Inouye: 300 710 2010
Jeffords: 225 830 Retiring
Lautenberg: 20 510 2008
Leahy: 75 922 2010
Levin: 200 353 2008
Lieberman: 15 3,500 No longer Dem
Murray: 50 1,000 2010
Obama: 150 746 2010
Jack Reed: 12 1,000 2008
Harry Reid: 500 600 2010
Rockfeller: 150 920 2008
Sarbanes 25 80 Retiring
Wyden: 769 1,100 2010




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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 01:45 PM
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1. DSCC gets 10 bucks a month from me
Edited on Tue Sep-19-06 01:46 PM by BOSSHOG
If santorum and/or allen get defeated I will consider it an awesome investment.

No doubt my contribution will put Casey and/or Webb over the top. Right?
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 01:49 PM
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2. leave it to KOS to complain about a $1,000,000 donation
Edited on Tue Sep-19-06 01:54 PM by wyldwolf
scanning the list, I see a bunch of folks with no serious opposition to any campaigns they'll run in the future vs. only one person with a serious shot at running a presidential campaign.

But of course, KOS isn't known for having a strategic mind.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 01:51 PM
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3. I think you have too many zeros.
I think it is a fair post, really.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 01:55 PM
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4. so I did.
Edited on Tue Sep-19-06 01:57 PM by wyldwolf
Fair? Well, I guess if you judge fair by knee-jerk reactionary standards.

scanning the list, I see a bunch of folks with no serious opposition to any campaigns they'll run in the future vs. only one person with a serious shot at running a presidential campaign.

But of course, KOS has a mind for political strategy like I have (apparently) with lots of zeros.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 01:57 PM
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5. The figures looked ok in preview...will have to work on it.
The amounts are in thousands of dollars.

First figure is $$ to DSCC

2nd figure is $$ CoH

3rd columns is their next election.

He just added Dodd.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 02:06 PM
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6. I swear if she offered to donate a kidney...
Kos would demand she give both....

She is giving more than any other Democrat and yet she is the object of scorn...

Pathetically transparent!
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 02:08 PM
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7. ... and like I said
...of all those on the list, who will have serious opposition in any future race? And who is the lone person there with a legitimate chance of running a presidential campaign?

How much is KOS contributing?
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 02:13 PM
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9. "Also giving the DSCC $1 million gifts are Kennedy, Feinstein, and Durbin"
From the post above.

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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 02:16 PM
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10. which of them faces serious opposition in any race AND...
...has the numbers and support to mount a serious Presidential campaign?
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 02:17 PM
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11. Yep...
She is tied for the most of any Democrat...

My point is still valid...

Kos's criticisms are not.

Why doesn't Kos demand Kennedy give more...he has almost no opposition and no intention of running for President? Why single out the one Democrat with possible Presidential aspirations in s2008?

The answer is simple...she is Hillary...no other reason required!

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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 02:09 PM
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8. How much is KOS contributing?
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 02:18 PM
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12. Did you see the Jeffords and Lieberman amounts?
Just asking.

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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 02:26 PM
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13. yeah? So?
Jefford is retiring. No opposition there.

According to the Great and Mighty KOS, Lieberman is not longer a Dem - why would the DSCC even want his "dirty" money (LOL!)... and he DOES have competition in a race.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 02:28 PM
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14. That was fast.
:yoiks:

My post gets so many hits right away that no one else wants to contribute.

:yoiks:
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 02:33 PM
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16. I guess there are some here who don't know what "discussion" forum means
Edited on Tue Sep-19-06 02:35 PM by wyldwolf
OH NO! Someone shows up to discuss my post and they (gasp!) DISAGREE! Must be some sort of DLC conspiracy!
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 02:36 PM
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17. Apparently...it is only a discussion...
When you agree with them...
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 02:41 PM
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18. mega-dittos, Madfloridian and AcmeJack!
Edited on Tue Sep-19-06 02:41 PM by wyldwolf
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 03:06 PM
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19. OMG! A Revelation! "Mega Dittos?" Who would have known...
:wow:
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 03:10 PM
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20. yes, my imitation of those who would have everyone agree with them...
...or else not take part in the conversation. Rush. Madfloridian.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 03:13 PM
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21. Kos is correct....Hillary should chip in more...
Edited on Tue Sep-19-06 03:15 PM by KoKo01
I was dissed by some on DU when she came to NC and did a $1,000 a plate fundraiser last year that was "closed" to all but big business interests and FOB. I was told she was giving all that money to the Candidates of the DSCC. Whether she should given to the DSCC or not...I don't know...but they could use some help, too.

I guess one might assume that the NC money is included in the Million but what about all the other fundraisers she attended to get the rest of her 21 mil.

She needs to kick in. I've heard Webb needs some money and it would be well spent. It's not easy to fight against Macacca money.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 03:40 PM
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22. How about all the fundraisers she attends...
On behalf of other candidates...

Besides Bill she is the biggest rainmaker in the party...

To criticize her for contributing $1 mil over and above all of her other efforts is just random Hillary-bashing!
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 04:13 PM
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23. Of course, Kos knows everything about campaign finance.
If Hillary gave a lot, I wonder if we'd hear about the tendrils of the DLC trying to co-opt progressive campaigns.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 05:11 PM
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24. Update post from Kos...
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/9/19/154013/972

"Also, I should not that all of these candidates are using their PACs to help out races this cycle. I'm sure you guys have seen Feingold and Warner advertise their efforts here and elsewhere. This isn't just about "helping" other candidates, but about providing the cold, hard cash to finish out the cycle strong. There's a loophole that allows senators to transfer as much money from their Senate committees as they want to the DSCC. If we have to sacrifice and contribute to campaigns from our household budgets, there's no reason that the Senators who would most benefit from being in the majority do so from their Senate budgets as well.

Feinstein, Kennedy, Wyden, and Durbin have stepped up in a big way. Others have made significant contributions as well, like the non-Democrat Jeffords."

Agree or disagree, call me mega-ditto or not....he does have a point.

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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 05:15 PM
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25. Feinstein, Durbin, Wyden and Kennedy will not be running for President...
Edited on Tue Sep-19-06 05:18 PM by SaveElmer
And the fact remains, Hillary has, along with a couple others, contributed the most...

She is also, aside from Bill, the biggest rainmaker in the party, and has done numerous fundraisers for other candidates and the party...

Criticism of her efforts on behalf of other Democrats is not warranted!


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