A DU poll: Would you support Hillary Clinton in 08 primaries?

[jackbourassa]

Just out of curiosity, how are you leaning in the race for the Democratic nomination...

Leave a message to explain your vote...

[TygrBright]

1. No, but if she won the primaries I'd support her in the general...

...although even that is assuming that her primary opponent(s) included candidate(s) more to my preference. If she ran against (for example) one of the Nelsons I'd probably support her.

candidly,
Bright

[boobooday]

2. Don't believe in political dynasties

That's not what America is supposed to be about.

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[jobycom]

4. You need other choices to indicate that we might, depending on candidates.

For instance, I would support her over most candidates, but there are a couple I would probably choose over her. You don't really have a choice for that.

Sad to see so many "Democrats" opposing her. I can't help but wonder if they are the dupes who have bought into the Swiftboating of her as a conservative, or if they are "visitors" with other agendas.

[LWolf]

20. No, Sorry.

I am a Democrat, not a "Democrat," I am not a "visitor," I am not a "dupe," I'm not "swiftboating" her, and my "agenda" is to elect Democrats who have the same priorities I do. I feel that there are many other potential nominees whose priorities are a closer match for me. Simple as that.

While I voted "ABH" on the poll, that's only because there is no reasonable alternative that doesn't have me "leaning" one way or another. Like you, I would have liked a different choice on the poll:

"No. There are many other better choices, and I support several of them."

[jobycom]

26. Well, then, either

you don't realize you are a dupe (no one can, that's the definition of dupe), or you are like me--disagree on some issues, but in general understand that the smears to make her seem conservative are just more of Rove's gimmics. But voting "anyone but Hillary" implies Biden, Lieberman, McCain... everyone else but Hillary. If that's your attitude, I can't believe anything other than that you've bought into the Swiftboating of her. If your attitude is really that she's just another candidate, then you wouldn't say "anybody but Hillary."

[LWolf]

42. You make one good point,

about the "ABH." I don't do "anybody but __________" votes at all. I clicked on it because I would choose most Democrats over Hillary, and that choice wasn't on the poll. I lean hard away from Hillary, but that choice wasn't there.

[NeedleCast]

32. Well Said LWolf

I'm not a democrat but a left leaning libertarian...otherwise I feel the same as you as far as not being a dupe or being swiftboated. I selected ABH simply because I don't think she can win.

[ForFuxakes]

5. I like the Clintons' ( A Lot)

But she is just too polarizing and would detract from the message...sorry

[muesa]

6. Anybody but

ANYBODY BUT...

1. George "Macacca" Allen
   
2. Jeb W Bush
   
3. Neal W Bush
   
4. Marvin W Bush
   
5. Mister Bill Frist
   
6. Mitt Romney
   
7. MisterTom Coburn
   
8. John McCain
   
9. And a bunch of other Repugs
   

[Kierkegaard]

7. This election won't be the time to try to elect the first female to the

office of POTUS. I like the idea of a female President, but the public reaction can't be predicted. We can't afford to be hamstrung by adding a sexist handicap to the process (like it or not, they are out there.)

What we need is the most electable candidate we can muster.

Personally, I like Hillary, but she just 'happened' at the wrong time in history. We must win the next presidential election. No ifs, ands, or buts.

[Flying Dream Blues]

30. Exactly. We need a slam dunk, or the closest thing we can find to it. nt

[Parisle]

39. That would be Clark, right?

---- Most electable in the backwash of the failed Bush administration,.... No point in trying to evade the reality of it,..... If democrats vote democratic,...... even if they REALLY wanted Hilliary,... then Clark will attract more of the swing/independents on the security issue,..... Sen Clinton cannot compete with a 4-star general, and she should focus on doing her job as a NY senator. The job requirements of the presidential nomination,... including the electability factor,... do not have room for unbridled personal ambition.

[Flying Dream Blues]

41. I'm still open, but I think he could be a very electable candidate. nt

[liberalmuse]

8. Not in the primaries, but...

if she were to gain the nomination, I'd vote for her hands down. She has angered and disappointed me many times, but even though Hillary is more of a Republican than any possible Democratic candidate, she is still better than all of the Republican $#%$&() combined. I'll hack off my own arm before I'll vote Republican, or for a third party candidate, no matter how noble, who has absolutely no chance in hell of beating a Republican. The Republicans must be thrown out of power, because they are killing this country.

[Finder]

9. I like Hillary and would vote for her...

for many reasons.

[liberal N proud]

10. Let's concentrate on the 2006 MID TERM elections first

ONLY 6 MORE WEEKS people.
Keep this crap out of here and work on 06.

IF we DON'T WIN IN KISS 08 GOODBYE as well.

[patricia92243]

11. I agree with her husband - she would make an excellent President. I loved

her biography. She is a real humanitarian.

[Totally Committed]

12. I checked "ABH", but, inreality....

that is inaccurate, except there was no "Anybody but a DLC Candidate" option. I won't vote for anyone who is still on the DLC rolls at the time of the elections. I don't care how "Liberal" they are, how disliked they are within the organization, how tough they've talked up to the elections, or what my former relationship is to the candidate -- Any candidate who is still on the DLC Rolls, supports The Third Way, or has anything in his or her platform supporting Corporatist policies does not get my vote, my time, my effort, my $$$ ------- Nuthin'! And, I mean it.

I also believe, over and above her leadership position in the DLC, Hillary is unelectable, and the most polarizing Democrat this Party could nominate.

TC

[Greyhound]

40. Right on TC!

It is a class war and they represent the wrong class.:kick:

[zeemike]

13. A simple no would be good for me but I picked ABH

And anybody but is way too strong of a statement.

[FILAM23]

14. Not only would I not support her in the

primaries, if she gets the nomination I will not vote for her in
the general election either.

[youthere]

15. Ditto that.

[lojasmo]

18. I doubt that I would either.

[Totally Committed]

23. I agree with that sentiment...

wholeheartedly.

She'll not get my vote.

TC

[AZBlue]

34. So you'd rather see a Republican win?

That's what you're saying. If it's down to just Hillary and a Republican, you'd rather have a Republican win.

:crazy:


(edited for spelling)

[WildEyedLiberal]

16. I would not vote for her in the primary

Even if my personal choice was not an option, I would vote for someone else before I voted for Hillary Clinton. Unless, by some horrendous cruel trick of fate, I was forced to choose between Biden, Hillary, and Warner. I would pick Hillary in that instance. But any other Dem candidate would be better than her.

[Greyhound]

17. Voted ABH, but there are several potential candidates that would be worse.

ETA; She is objectionable enough to me that I would seriously look at alternatives come election day.

[jackbourassa]

19. I appreciate your comments...

Personally I think 2008 is too important to throw it away to satisfy Clintonian ambition. It would be alright to challenge the status quo and try to elect a woman President, if there wasn't so much at stake. But there is and I can not support someone who has - AT BEST - a 50/50 shot at winning; and - AT WORST - no chance at all.

[abburdlen]

21. by the same token

I'm not willing to state at this point I could not support her in the primary however as I see it there are two possible scenarios that could lead me to voting for Hillary in the primaries. The first involves a plane crash.... ;)

[Greyhound]

28. I would love to, in good conscience, support her, however she showed

her true colors to me early in her term. She took a huge check and threw a party for Tata in the very same week that IBM laid off either 8000 or 15000 workers in New York. That hypocrisy in combination with her idiotic support for the ongoing mass-murder in Iraq makes her unacceptable to me as a leader.:patriot:

[No Exit]

22. The reasons I wouldn't are:

1. A Hillary candidacy would give the right wingnuts far too big a rallying point.

2. She is not forthright enough in her support for the little guy. Someone like Russ Feingold clearly supports the little guy. I'd rather have him or someone like him.

3. I don't think she could win.

4. While it would be tempting to see it as a "two-for-one" presidency--in which we would get the influence of Bill Clinton, as well as Hillary as president--I really think that she is mostly independent of his influence.

That said, if it were a certainty that, as president, she could force through legislation overhauling our health-care system, I might reconsider. Although, at the moment, even my concerns about lack of health-care are overshadowed by my eagerness to end the warmongering.

[rrasile]

24. Hillary Clinton would be great

for our country but I'm afraid the country is still afraid of women leaders.
The day will come but right now she is one of the most powerful person in politics.

[ChiciB1]

25. I Don't Want Her As A Nominee... Said It Many Times & Have

wondered what to do IF she was nominated. My heart wouldn't be in it and I DOUBT I could campaign for her, but would HAVE to vote for her.

But the Clinton/Chrissy flap should be a real indication of a small indication of just how ATTACKED she would be. I realize she's competent, intelligent and can handle so much crap, but to run a campaign that would be based on fending off CONSTANT accusations doesn't seem very "smart" for us Democrats!

We need to go with someone else simply because her name is Clinton!

[windbreeze]

27. no, can't do it...

not in the primary...and I don't know about the general either...I suppose I would...but...I swore, after voting for ABB the last time...I would NOT sell my integrity down the river to do it a second time...I am tired of having a candidate crammed down my throat just because someone high up, thinks that this or that person deserves it now, cause it's "their turn"...It should be about who's the best person for the job...somewhere we've lost sight of that, in favor of other things, such as who the corporations support, or who can raise the most money...
wb

[noonwitch]

29. She's a great candidate.

I'll vote for her if she runs. I'm not sure she will, though.

I like Gore, Edwards, Byah, and others, but I hope Kerry doesn't run. I didn't vote for him in the 2004 primary (I did in the election, though), and I think Hillary is a far better candidate. She will not allow swift boat style attacks to go unanswered for days on end.

[rep the dems]

31. I wouldn't say anyone but Hillary, but only if the other dems running

really suck. If most of the dems that are expected to run do, then there's about a 1% chance of me voting for Hillary.

[El Fuego]

33. No, because it would just be a gift to the GOP

She's great, but she has too much baggage and is unelectable.

I only hear RW pundits talking about a Hillary candidacy.

[Tiggeroshii]

35. Depends who my choices are...

Obama over her, definitely, Mark Warner over her,Clark over her, Gore, if any other prominent lady decides to run I'll choose her over Hillary. I guess I really am in the "Anybody but Hillary camp," but won't be ashamed if I end up voting for her anyways.

PS, I voted for "leaning towards not hillary

[Jack Rabbit]

36. Gray area between leaning against and anybody but

She's a KFC politician -- finger-lickin' good. She licks her finger to see which way the wind is blowing.

I don't trust her to do the right thing when it's the unpopular thing.

[AtomicKitten]

37. no - but I will in the general if she wins the primary

as I will whoever wins.

[geek tragedy]

38. I won't support her in the primaries, but would 100% if she

were the nominee.