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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 09:49 AM
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Foleygate: Just More of the Same or the End of OUR America?
Edited on Mon Oct-02-06 10:25 AM by Totally Committed
This "Foley Scandal" has finally done it. As painful as it is for me to admit, the America I longed for, worked so hard for, and was sure would exist one sweet day is probably finally dead. And, while we were all watching the Bush Administration's experiments in Fascism... thinking it was the gutting of our Constitution, the loss of our Civil Liberties, and the creeping lack of tolerance for anyone who isn't rich, white, and Christian, we looked to these things as what would finally bring this beautiful experiment in Democracy to her end. How wrong we were.

And, there is enough blame in both Parties for the fix we find ourselves in today. This whole downward spiral started with a bang, not a whimper, and we, along with our duly elected Democratic President aided and abetted. It could have all been stopped with a simple "It's none of your goddamned business," but President Clinton instead said, "I never had sex with that woman" instead. And, that's when the game was kicked into high gear, and the Theft of America began in earnest.

In his zeal to be the first great bi-partisan President, Bill Clinton sacrificed America's poorest to his Welfare Reform Act. America's working Class was the next to be sacrificed to his belief in globalization with NAFTA. And, once the Republicans were sure the media was able to be conglomeratized enough for them to control from within because of Clinton's Media De-Regulation, they used that media to crucify him publicly. Their persecution was so complete, so thorough, his administration was completely ham-strung for almost its last three years with. He was virtually rendered unable to perform the duties a majority of the American people elected him to perform because of an act of marital infidelity. Special Prosecutor, Ken Starr, was relentless. Instead of hearing about the threats to our safety and security, we were treated nightly to details of the President's most private affairs. We watched as the First Lady was humiliated with these details, and when she stood her ground, and fought for her narriage, she was crucified along with him. They smacked his outstretched hand, and punished him (and us) for his "bipartisanship". His "Bridge to the Twenty-first Century" was then blocked forever with the stolen election of 2000. Al Gore and the American people became casulaties of this first great step into their web.

That stolen election brought us the George W. Bush presidency. He and his administration now controlled the White House, as well as both arms of Congress. They could have done anything to this country, legally, but as we all know, they chose to start the dismantling of the country, her Constitution, and her way of life about ten minutes after his first inaugural address was over. The headlines that day were about the missing W's on the keyboards of some of the computers in the West Wing. The smoke and Mirrors of Karl Rove were officially inaugurated along with Bush that day as both he and his dirty tricks, obfiscation, and lies were given an office in the White House.

Then, on September 11, 2001, the greatest disaster in America's history happened. We were given an invincible George Bush that day. We watched as he sat transfixed for eight minutes in a schoolroom, holding a children's book while they scrambled to get his Vice President to safety. Then they put this President into Air Force One, and hip-hopped him all over the country, with his whereabouts broadcast constantly. He was airborne, like some giant skeet just ready for the big shoot-down, but Cheney was safe in an "undisclosed location" with about a dozen doctors, a bunch of heart defibrulators, and the power of government in his hands. It was at that point that Rove dared to expose the real head of government. He knew it was safe, you see... we were busy looking elsewhere. While "President" Bush was in his plane, they took now famous pictures of him to be sold to high-paying donors at a later date. While Cheney remained in his "undisclosed location" we know they flew "President" Bush to Ground Zero to breathe the same air we now know they knew was some of the most hazardous for breathing anywhere in the U.S. Were they worried? We'll probably never know. But, they did shove a megaphone into his hands, and he gave them another "historic" photo-op, one that cemented his presidency from that day on... a moment that would allow the Theft of America to roll forward unimpeded to this day. Rove was good. He gave us a Hero President... the same man who had sat transfixed for eight minutes in a schoolroom, holding a children's book while the Twin Towers exploded into piles of rubble was seen as America's Hero. He became symbolic of the courage of America's people... feisty, unafraid... we would all be seen in the light of his actions that day. A nation of cowboys, ready to rumble.



Next, Rove gave us a Hero President who talked to God. The Extremists of the Christian Right brought their minions to him in exchange for the power to turn America into the Christian country they had promised their congregations for so long. God had chosen Bush as our President. It was official. We were now a nation of holy Christian cowboys, ready to rumble, and we had God on our side. We wouldn't know it for awhile, but that was the day our holy war against the infidels began. The President God chose then set about to do God's work, but now in our name. He labelled three non-Christian countries of his choosing "The Axis of Evil", and it was with that one fell swoop he and his government set about making enemies of each of our allies, one by one. (Who among us will ever forget the foolishness that was "Freedom Fries"? But, I digress.)

As more of the same progressed, and countries that were once our friends opted out of any "Coalition of the Willing" with us, Bush saddled us up and we went into Iraq virtually alone. "Pre-emptively", he said. Too many Democrats voted along with almost all the Republicans to allow him to take our sons and daughters, our husbands and wives, our friends, our familiy members, and invade a sovereign country... the first one mentioned in the "Axis of Evil", as a matter of fact... to to save us from "being inihilated by their Weapons of Mass Destruction", er, no... to "save them from the brutal dictatorship of Saddam Hussein", er, no.... to "bring them Democracy".... yeah, that's it. To bring them Democracy.

On the altar of shared "democracy", the Bush administration sacrificed the identity of a CIA agent and the identities of those she worked with and their mission; set up prisons at Abu Graib and Guantanemo Bay where the Geneva Conventions were quickly gutted; and, a bunch of purple fingers aside, a government of our choosing was imposed on them. Now, before we come down too hard on the Republicans for not really delivering the Iraqi people to the American version of "democracy" they were promised, I have to say that they truly did give them American-style "democracy". Our next election would prove that, no problem!



We got, not purple fingers when we voted, but an election gave us Bush-style "democracy" right between the eyes, courtesy of a masterful campaign run by Karl Rove, and an election more than some feel was again stolen... enabled by that same Rove-orchestrated campaign. Rove took a Bush -- a man who had never served in the armed services successfully, some even called him AWOL -- and made him a Hero of National Patriotism. (To criticize him was to be unpatriotic, even.) Then he took a genuine Democratic War Hero -- one who had actually seem action against an American enemy in a time of war, had earned Medals for his actual valor, had actually led men into real fighting -- and under his hand, an entire Republican convention donned bandaids with purple hearts on them made him into a symbol to be mocked, shamed, and labelled a coward. Shame on Kerry and his campaign for letting that happen. Shame on us for not demanding the gloves come off right then and there. Instead we watched one state after another go to Bush. "How could the exit polling have been so wrong?", we all asked. Uh-huh. Ohio sealed the deal this time.

Ensconced, not by the Supreme Court this time, but some say by Diebolds and other e-voting machines, Bush now had the power. He went on to preside over the continuing disasters in Iraq, the devastation of New Orleans that was Katrina, the loading of the Supreme Court with Christian-Right ideologue judges, the gutting of our Constitution with his signing statements, a relentless assault on our Civil Rights with the Patriot Acts I & II, a deficit that has all but bankrupted our National Treasury while giving the working poor the inability to file for personal bankruptcy. To give the Bushies credit, this is actually a lot like the "democracy" we brought Iraq. They certainly do keep their word! As we move ever closer to the end of the right of Choice for all women, public displays of Christianity -- especially in public places of government, and the ability of this President to name any American an "Enemy Combatant" by virture of evidence from warrantless wiretaps, they have still managed for the Richest to receive masive tax cuts. And, scandal after scandal, they remain untouched.




So, you'll forgive me if I admit to you as I write this, that I don't know how this Foley-gate will turn out. There are some who think that this is Rove's "Night of the Long Knives". Thinking of how well a purge of all those pesky homosexuals from their government would go over with their base, I have to wonder. But then, their base is already beginning to rumble over promises to them yet unfilled. Will this scandal just be one too many? I don't know. But, I do know this: Foley-gate is about to put an end to something. And, I'm just afraid it will be my beloved America, as I once thought she would be. I can't trust otherwise. Rove has been too effective up to now. Way too effective. And, as much as it pains me to say this, our Party -- actually, one faction of our own Party -- has been absolutely complicit with him. So, I'm sitting here waiting for the other shoe to drop.

I hope with all my heart I'm wrong, and Foleygate is not ready and able to be spun into gold for the Bushies. I do, however think it's sad that this country, as we all knew it, will probably be rendered unrecoverable. America deserved a better epitaph than a White Elected Republican "Good Christian" Male sitting in front of his computer with his hand down his tightie-whities, getting his jollies over talking to underage pages about, among other filth, "the one-eyed snake".

I weep for this country.

TC
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 10:09 AM
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1. Kick
:kick:

TC
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 10:30 AM
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2. Hey, look - there's one VERY bright side to foley-gate.
This was a safe seat. They weren't even going to work that hard here, and now they have to scramble - AND spend money they weren't planning on spending (at least here). Hell, last I looked, they didn't even have a candidate to plug in. And they're running out of time. And the last poll I saw in a local Florida paper had our Democratic challenger up by something like 81 to 82 percent over a republi-CON to be named later. It's almost literally in the bag, and we've hardly even had to work for it! They've handed us almost literally a freebie.

PLUS, let's not discount the discouragement factor this adds to the enemy camp. This hits 'em squarely in the family values, especially when you add in the bonus points for man-on-boy. Couldn't be more excruciatingly delicious, at least to my scheming Macchiavellian mind. These are the same people who wrap themselves around the Bible and put on all the holier-than-thou and are so quick to condemn others (like Dems and liberals and progressives) as perverts and "godless." And now - well, LOOK AT THEM!!!!

I'm just loving this.

And besides, you put a lot of time and thought, not to mention heartbreak, into this, and I didn't want it to sink.
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 12:59 PM
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14. I thought the official name is "Mastur-gate"?
:shrug:

And your right Calimary...this WAS a "safe" seat and the GOP can kiss it goodbye...and its probably so disgusting to some GOP voters that they won't even show up on election day around the nation, or even vote Democrat.

The Repukes want to be talking Terror, Terror, Terror...They don't want to be talking about Iraq and they definitely don't want to be talking about how one of their own (and known by leadership in the GOP) was a pedophile.....

If the focus over the next 5 weeks is on Iraq and "Mastur-gate" then the Dems will surely have Congress, maybe even the Senate again....
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 02:12 PM
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16. "Mastur-gate"...
too funny and too scary all at the same time. I agree with you about our focus.

TC
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JMDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 10:35 AM
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3. Yea -- might as well give up
Yep. It's all over. Might as well give up.

Wait... wouldn't this be exactly what Rove would want? Hmmm... Maybe this post itself is a Rove operation???

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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 11:09 AM
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7. I do see your point....
I thought this message might be met with this sort of disdain, but I wrote it anyway in hopes that for ever one person who saw this as a load of horse-hockey, there would be a few who would be able to look at it and see a broken heart for a country that is/was loved. I had such high hopes when I was younger.

I didn't ask anyone to believe what I wrote, and even asked for input. Yours is as valid as those who will agree with mine.

Thanks for your reply. At least you read it and thought about it, and that's more than most people's opinions get this day beofre being dismissed.

Peace.

TC
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 10:47 AM
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4. masterful and eloquent ...
that's quite a history lesson you've compiled for us, TC !!!

i look at things like the latest "shocker du jour" in two ways ... one way is the way most DU'ers seem to view: it's the politics ... are we up? are we down? could this be the biggie? what if this spreads to more repubs? will the Christian right stay home because of this? will this finally "out" the republican hypocrisy? and so on and so on ...

but then i step out of the "small" world of domestic politics to look at a bigger picture ... i see a system of democracy in tatters ... not because some jackass republican is corrupt or is a degenerate ... i see a system of governance that, by its very definition, cannot sustain itself without selling its soul to special interests ... in this light, sex scandals are nothing but a noisy distraction ... and i see Al Gore's warning of the imminent, catastrophic effects of global warming ... in that light, sex scandals are nothing but noise ... put in its proper perspective, we should see 1000's of daily DU threads about global warming and one or two about the latest "shocker du jour" ... it will never happen ... and i see the daily deaths of Americans in Iraq ... 21 died this week ... most of them were in their early 20's ... what a waste ... perhaps our posts should be little biographies about each and every one of them ... it will never happen ... we are distracted by the "shocker du jour" while lives are being tragically wasted ... and i see the last desperate gasps of American empire ... we don't seem to won't to make that a popular topic of conversation ... perhaps some think it a little too theoretical or a little too depressing ... a possible shutoff of oil access for the US should be a major focus of conversation on DU ... it will never happen ... we seem transixed here on the "small" world of domestic politics and too often blind to the greater battles ...

and this is NOT to argue that electoral politics are not a means to an end ... they are ... no argument is made here to dismiss one focus at the extent of the other but rather to find a better balance ... we seem unable to do that ...

in the world of gotcha politics, i expect this latest scandal will have some real impact ... but i am nevertheless saddened by our careening from one obsession to the next while the issues of greatest import go largely ignored ...

this was quite a post TC ... i'm happy to lift it to the top with a big old k&r !!!
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hedda_foil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 10:55 AM
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5. This eloquence belongs on the Greatest page. K&R!
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 11:00 AM
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6. A masterpiece -- but one disagreement...It may be getting better
Edited on Mon Oct-02-06 11:06 AM by Armstead
Overall you perfectly captured how many of us have been feeling -- not just for the last six years but for many years before that, as the stage was being set BY BOTH political parties for the Debacle we have experienced since 2000.

One small disagreement I have though. I think Foleygate is going to work against the GOP. I don't know if it will be the silver bullet that will cure the nation's 25-year-long coma. But it will add to the drip-drip backlash against all of the chickens that have been coming home to roost over the last six years.

In that sense -- although I wish it were about something more important -- it is part of what COULD BE a shifting of the tide in a better direction.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 11:13 AM
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8. I hope you are right... and this does work against the GOP.
Edited on Mon Oct-02-06 11:14 AM by Totally Committed
I would LOVE to see that be the case.

As a scientist friend of mine said to me recently about the Bushies: They ARE like Teflon! Nothing sticks to them, and they poison everything that touches them just a little every time there's contact.

I think of the last part of that every time I read "The TEFLON Presidency".

TC
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 12:32 PM
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13. Now I'm going to think of that last part whenever I cook an egg
Just a joke...or yolk.

But they do seem to be made of Teflon. That's been one of the major frustrations of tghe last six years.

However, even if the Bushes manage to slip out, if it it weakens the GOP, and undermines conservative talking points and lies, so much the better.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 01:00 PM
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15. OT --- My friend wasn't kidding....
throw out all your old Teflon pans... they poison food every time you use them.

Thanks for your input!

TC

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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 11:24 AM
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9. First of all ......
Edited on Mon Oct-02-06 11:25 AM by Husb2Sparkly
.... K&R.

Now, that done ....... you've done a great job of summing things up in a most eloquent way.

I want to add my own thoughts about the Lewinski thing. I recall my anger at the time. On the one hand I was so pissed at Clinton. Not for the blowjob, but for being so FUCKING stupid as to think a 25 year old kid would keep secret the sucking of the presidential dick. How can a man so smart be so utterly without a clue? Well, he wasn't without a clue. I can NOT believe he actually thought she'd keep her mouth shut. I think he was personally reckless. I can, however, forgive that. No matter what, this was a personal matter. No laws were even in play, let alone violated.

On the other hand, I was - and still am - angry at the Republicans for taking the time of the fucking leader of the world with a stupid matter for purely, solely, unambiguously partisan political gain. I recall talking to a lawyer friend (more wistfully than with any serious hope) about filing a lawsuit against Paula Jones and he handlers for stealing the attention of the president from his job.

That anger was mostly directed, not at Ken Star or John Whitehead, or any of the lawyers, but at Newt Fucking Gingrich. We all give so much credit to Rove. But he's just a good mechanic. Gingrich is the real evil and still clearly holds some sway among the partisan warriors bent on stealing this country. Gingrich, if NOTHING else, cleared the path for what was to come.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 11:40 AM
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11. Newt F. Gingrich DID beget Rove. Bill Clinton WAS personally reckless.
And, the Republicans DID take advantage of a personal matter and blow it into the endless impeachment. I agree with all those things.

What I was saying was that Rove IS still there, pulling the strings. They DO manage to appear to be made of Teflon. And, the American people -- even America, herself -- seems to be unable to rid themselves of this "cancer". I don't care if it is Rove, or Gingrich, or any of the other Machiavellian mini-me's Cheney has running the show, the result is the same...... we may have lost our country in the process.

I am angry and sad and may even be a tad hopeless (ya think?).

And, when I think that all Clinton had to do was say "None of your f*cking business" to tilt some of the power back toward us, I am livid.

I hope I've gotten this out of my system now. I need some peace -- and not the kind that comes with resignation, but with justice.

TC
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 11:38 AM
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10. Did Rove-ohs eat your baby?
:evilgrin:



Foley will be an ugly debate, but not so much about homosexuality. It's an ugly gift horse, but it has most of it's teeth.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 12:03 PM
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12. No, he ate my country!
TC
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