What is really going on.

[cotdom]

I never get my hopes up anymore. Been trying to figure the angle on the Foley deal.

Heres what I think is going on. Repugs out Foley. Say its horrible and disgusting.



Everyone jumps on the bandwagon. Horrible horrible.

Then the repugs start outing every member of house and senate that is gay. October surprise.

Homophobes run to the base. Wonder if there are more Dem gays or Repug gays.....

HOPE its just an implosion and not a trick, but as I say, I never get my hopes up anymore.

[wanpete]

1. interesting theory, but I don't agree...Foley is a R, they can't run to

the so-called, party of values, when they abhor gay people so much. This was something that gut-punched them. They are scrambling like chickens without heads now.

[YDogg]

5. They want to be like Mike.

http://www.miketheheadlesschicken.org/story.html

[oldtime dfl_er]

6. I think it's spun out of control now

especially if Hastert goes, which he should.

http://www.cafepress.com/scarebaby/1942333

[MadMaddie]

2. Ah....we all get discouraged but a little bit a vino and it ain't so bad..

Well my friend....first welcome to DU!:hi:

Yes the Repugs are trying to paint it as a Gay issue...but the public isn't buying it so easily....the public is asking why it was known for 2-3 years and didn't take legal action.....why was it covered up!!

This has spun out of the Repugs control.....this is good my friend....this is good...

[Warren DeMontague]

3. Here's what's REALLY going on:

The last motherfuckers in this country stupid and/or crazy enough to vote for the GOP are these "left behind", creationist, dinosaurs-were-on-noah's-ark, far right "family values" fundamentalist whackjobs. That's IT. Everyone else has left the ship. This foley deal put a big flaming fucking torpedo right into the side of that bastard. Now, it's going down. Watch.

And welcome to DU.

[Poppyseedman]

11. I like your optimism

but, this "Foley" deal isn't going to cause hardly any rethugs to jump ship. It might cause some to stay home and demoralize them for GOTV.

What party are the "left behind", creationist, dinosaurs-were-on-noah's-ark, far right "family values" fundamentalist whackjobs going to go, .......................................to the party of Clinton, Stubbs, Kennedy, Condit?

Not hardly. They will hold those noses and vote GOP

[Warren DeMontague]

12. Well, here's the kicker.

There's not as many of them as they would like everyone else to believe. That's why the GOP has needed widespread, deliberate election theft. That's why Terri Schiavo bit the GOP on the ass. The American People are far more liberal, and socially libertarian, than the media and the GOP want anyone to realize.

But the left behind, creationist, fundy whackjobs are all the GOP has LEFT. And if they're pissed or alienated, they'll stay HOME- that's why Bush has bent over backwards to keep them happy on issues like abortion, even though the Majority of Americans are PRO-CHOICE.

Short answer? The Republicans are FUCKED.

[Poppyseedman]

14. What ? There aren't that many of them???

According to some posters they are under every rock, behind every bed room door, massive in numbers ready to impose a theocracy having infiltrated the military, the schools and the government at every level.

The country is over run with religious nut jobs just ready to impose their fundamentalism on everybody

You mean they are wrong and the ever present "we doomed" by religious fear mongering threads are really people with over reactive imaginations

I thought so.

[Warren DeMontague]

18. No. They are a minority with a DISPROPORTIONATE amount of power

There is clearly a segment of the population that is made up of religious nutjobs. And they most definitely DO want to establish a Theocracy, and they very much ARE a threat to American Democracy and Freedom.

What they are NOT is any kind of majority. They are certainly not a group our Party needs to compromise core values in order to "court". Rather, we should be courting groups like the libertarian wing of the GOP and socially libertarian minded undecided voters, people who have not been effectively addressed by either party.

[sendero]

13. Beautiful..

... yes, the only votes that can come from this they already have.

[pdxmom]

4. If that's true, did they expect this blowback on Hastart? n/t

[stillcool]

7. a media feeding frenzy...

and obviously alot of tube watchers getting their jollies, while criticizing others 'stupid murikans' for what they are so obviously enjoying themselves.

[BattyDem]

8. Sex with a minor is NEVER a good campaign strategy

But let's say you're right and they out all the homosexuals in Congress. Big deal. That information is going to disgust THEIR base far more than it disgusts our base or the Independents ... and it has already cost them one Congressman (Foley) and (any day now) a Speaker of the House. Rumors are flying that there is at least one other Congressman involved, though I don't know how true that is. Time will tell.

Homophobes and other small-minded individuals were never going to vote Democratic anyway. We need the Moderates and the Independents - and sex with a minor is not going to play well with them.

[bronxiteforever]

9. Your right-its the GOP strategy to savage their leadership -Brilliant!

eom

[LiberalArkie]

10. Think Joseph Mc Carthy. Subsitute communist with gay..

[Sparkly]

15. Huh?

So they'll do a tally of which party has more gay representatives, and win for having fewer?

I don't think so.

[cotdom]

16. I'm just saying...

ABCNEWS has already said it was republicans who gave them the initial information that started this implosion. Why would republicans do that?

I just dont trust anything that gets said anymore. I always have a feeling something else is up.

I was just trying to figure out what. What are your reasons for Republicans giving this info to ABC news. Conscience?

[Sparkly]

19. Can't argue with your skepticism -- nothing's beyond them.

First, ABC doesn't have a shred of credibility in my book, either.

For all we know, it was one of the pages who posted an IM on a blog, as reported elsewhere. Or, as Pukes are charging, it was Democrats who were behind the truth coming out (in which case, as H2S said in another thread, that'd be just fine with me -- keep it up until November!).

Who knows WHAT happened?

I'm with you on not taking anything at face value. So I'm not sure ABC is telling it straight, either.

[AtomicKitten]

17. if it is intended as subterfuge

it's a poor substitute. There is virtually nothing the Republicans can talk about that puts them in a flattering light. If you can't be hopeful, at least enjoy the implosion.