What will be W's legacy?

[Erika]

I like to throw that out every few months.

He's destroyed our international relationships, he's destroyed our middle class, he's destroyed world peace, he's destroying the environment.

He and his misadministration has probably done more harm to this world and our country than all administrations before him.

What will be his legacy?

[SaveOurDemocracy]

1. Worst President Ever

[driver8]

15. I agree -- He will be remembered as the worst President ever.

He has done nothing -- NOTHING!! -- positive for our country. Everything he has touched, he has totally fucked up.

It will take years and years to fix what he has broken.

[Dinger]

33. Yes, and The End Of The repuglican party

the total f'n end! They will be relegated to toilet-scrubbiong status, if they're lucky!

[Lindacooks]

2. He's destroyed the Constitution and Bill of Rights

He's destroyed scientific research, destroyed education ...

But I don't want to hog all the answers!

[Dem2theMax]

23. Awww, go ahead. You're on a roll.

And a VERY good one so far! (Is that good or bad? I mean, the list is horrid -- what he's done to our country. But what you've come up with so far is dead on.)

[Lindacooks]

42. Okay!

Lied about outing Valerie Plame, ignored warnings about bin Laden which led to 9/11, politicized 9/11 for his own gain, let New Orleans drown, cheated in the 2004 Presidential debates, never got bin Laden ...

[pinto]

3. A fractured executive, mistrust of government and a condo in Houston.

[Chipper Chat]

4. Hitler #2

The man who killed Christianity.

[Historic NY]

5. Worst President & too stupid to realize it.............

stay the course means stuck in the mud...............

[opihimoimoi]

6. Teaching our KIDS its OK to LIE CHEAT STEAL....What an EVIL EXAMPLE

for our children to Follow.

They will grow up thinking its OK to sneak, to set things up, to Lie, to CHEAT, and to Denigrate/Distort/Distract.

The things Bush teaches are very UnChristianlike...its not funny.

Legacy: Bad Presidential Model

[NEOBuckeye]

7. Criminally Incompetent

The perfect example of the worst that can happen when the wrong man gets the wrong job.

[hsher]

8. Oliver Cromwell

America's Oliver Cromwell.


www.yourmorningleibowitz.blogspot.com
Yer Daily Show comic strip

[baldguy]

43. Yes

He was a king-killer who agonized about whether to be king himself and decided not. He was a parliamentarian who made his soldiers break and purge parliaments. He was profoundly devoted to Christian values yet his conquests of Scotland and Ireland were extraordinarily brutal. He passionately advocated religious liberty for his own kind, but let blasphemers be tortured. He was an advocate of equitable justice who imprisoned critics if they challenged his powers to raise extra-parliamentary taxation. Admirers hail him as a strong, stabilizing and stately leader who brought international respect, overthrew tyranny and promoted republicanism and liberty. His critics ridiculed him as an overly ambitious hypocrite who betrayed the cause of liberty. When the royalists returned to power, they dug up his corpse, hung it in chains, and beheaded it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_Cromwell

[hsher]

47. This Cromwell action sounds like Iraq invasion

More on Oliver Cromwell: See if this reads like "9-11 = Invade Iraq"

From Wiki:

>>Debate over Cromwell's actions in Ireland
The extent of Cromwell's alleged brutality in Ireland has been strongly debated. For example, it is clear that Cromwell saw the Irish in general as enemies - he justified his sack of Drogheda as revenge for the massacres of Protestant settlers in Ulster in the Irish Rebellion of 1641, calling the massacre, "The righteous judgement of God on these barbarous wretches, who have imbued their hands with so much innocent blood". Drogheda had in fact never been held by the rebels in 1641 and the number of victims of the massacres in Ulster during the Irish Rebellion of 1641 had been considerably exaggerated (from 4000 to 120,000). Moreover, the records of many churches such as Kilkenny Cathedral accuse Cromwell's army of having defaced and desecrated the churches and having stabled their horses in them. During the civil wars, the Parliamentarian side in particular nursed a hatred towards the Catholic Irish, who were long seen as "savages" and inferior by the English. A desire for revenge for the massacres of 1641 added to the general climate of Protestant hostility.

[Erika]

9. I will remember for much horriific deeds

He and his bragged about shock and awe on the innoncent Iraqis.

I will be haunted for ever for the 13 year old Iraqi boy who had his limbs shot off in W's shock and awe campaign on an innocent populace.

W's legacy will be?

[babylonsister]

10. The blivet, cheney, rice and rummy have taken all of us on a trip

that we don't want to be on. Think about it. Four people are holding our whole country captive.

[Erika]

14. Yep. We are all heartsick W took over this country.

He's against everything humanitarian and decent.

His legacy will be?

[babylonsister]

20. He doesn't care about his legacy, because he will be tried.

I venture to say dimson knows his life as a 'devil- may- care" kind of guy is over.
He's hated internationally; that would be horrific to me.

[Bluestar]

11. Don't you mean his "lame-acy"? n/t

[bigbrother05]

12. , , , , , , ,

comma

[Slyder]

13. Too early to tell

Only history will tell. We usually judge a legacy by what happens next. Buchanan looks like a bad president because he did nothing about Southern secession. If Lincoln had done what many in his own party suggested, and let the South go in peace, Buchanan might not look so bad. On the other hand, corruption tends to be the evil history that keeps on giving. Harding is unlikely ever to thought of in a different light than he currently is.

I suspect Bush II will, like William F. Buckley said, have no legacy. He may also have discredited the Republican Party and conservatism generally for a long time. I will either go home to Crawford a broken man or face the music in The Hague.

History is a capricious thing.

[Erika]

16. He's had 6 years

Too early to tell. Try www.icasualties.org. W committed our troops to what?

[Slyder]

27. I know, but history.......

is something that looks back from 50 years at least. Nixon likely will be remembered for the opening to China more than for Watergate. His great vision will likely be remembered more than his personal foibles. FDR is far more remembered as a great war president, not for trying to pack the Supreme Court. Many of Lincoln's contemporaries would be shocked at his god-like status today. Truman's low popularity levels in the polls are often the guide by which low polling presidents are considered. Jackson is usually thought of as a great president for his democratic reforms, not for his hatred of Native Americans and the Trail of Tears. I see Bush among the worst presidents. But what will follow might make us change our minds! Or not.

It is dangerous to predict the way history will view a person ten, fifty, a hundred or a thousand years out.

[Erika]

28. Uh, what has W done

for humanitarian purposes. Iraq doesn't quite fit the bill.

[Oak2004]

44. Several points:

Nixon will be remembered first and foremost as he is today: for Watergate. The U.S. was "closed" to China for only a few decades in what has otherwise been a close relationship since the 19th century. The US/China alliance is at best only a factor in the collapse of the Soviet Union, which was predicted by a prescient few in pretty much the manner that it happened before Nixon went to China. I can't claim to be one of the predictors, but after a visit to the Soviet Union during the Brezhnev era and seeing for myself that the Soviet Union was just a giant nuclear armed Potemkin Village hiding a crumbling society and collapsing economy, I knew in my heart they would be right. But Nixon will always be the first president to resign in disgrace.

Jackson is probably remembered equally for democratization and his role in the genocide, or at least that's how I learned of him in my college class on the Jacksonian era.

There is as of today nothing that * has done of any great merit. Nothing. Nixon, yes, left a trail of foreign and domestic accomplishments, but Georgie has accomplished nothing of significance other than debacles -- warnings of worst terror attack on US soil ignored, loss of a major American city to natural disaster due to profound inaction during every phase of disaster management, impending loss of one, and perhaps two wars in areas of importance to US and world security (ain't an unstable middle east just grand to look at, given that peak oil is here, or is nearly here?), gross financial mismanagement and corruption, and a nearly unprecidented attack on the US constitution. For Georgie to be remembered as anything other than catastrophic, he is going to need to spend the rest of his term of office in some secret White House biology lab personally discovering the cure for cancer.

[Slyder]

18. Freudian typo alert!

Last sentence of paragraph two of previous post should begin "He will either......"! lol

[Jack Rabbit]

17. Debt, war crimes and a world cynical about the motives of US leaders

If there's any way we can prosecute this man and his lieutenants, we should.

[Erika]

19. We can't prosecute him as long as the bushbots

shield him with a rubber stamping of the Congress. The W congress will also hold a legacy, and it's not favorable.

[rwenos]

21. America's Fascist Bastard President

I've thought about this a long time. The "enemy combatant" bill passed last week was the last straw. This whole Presidency has been set up to enrich a small coterie of corporate cronies of the Bush family. The federal budget has been diverted to the coffers of Halliburton and other corporations, most in the oil and construction businesses. The United States military has been used to facilitate this diversion. The "unitary executive", combined with the suspension of habeas corpus, is simply martial law called by a different name.

The current Congress is enabling this attempt at kingship. The analogy to Cromwell is apt.

This bastard will be written about in political science and history classes for decades, as the first American President to attempt to assemble dictatorial powers.

This analysis can no longer be termed overstated. This is real, and it's happening in our country, during our lives.

Feels like 1934 all over again. Wir mussen ordnung haben. Heil Bush.

[Erika]

24. Yes, W has no allegiance to the U.S., none at all

he does to the corporate globalists. He just chose to waste our troops on his way to the profits, and he chose to destabilize Iraq to do so.

[EST]

30. Damn good analysis.

"The "unitary executive", combined with the suspension of habeas corpus, is simply martial law called by a different name."

Well stated.

[Karenina]

40. Idiot son of an asshole.

[JMDEM]

22. Greatest President Ever

Before you throw a brick at me... if he continues the way he is going, and continues to get away with it, his thugs will be writing the history books, and banning and burning anything that disagrees with them.

What do you think Hilter's legacy would be right now if the Nazis had won?

[Erika]

25. One of his most loyal supporters was Mark Foley

Says a lot.

[Dinger]

34. A FRIENDLY Warning . . . .

Risky thread title for a newbie. I'm just sayin'. And he WON'T "continue to get away with it" either.

[MGD]

38. Not in my lifetime

Your point is quite valid however.

[razors edge]

26. simple

imagine a boot stomping on the face of humanity, forever.

orwell knows best.

[EST]

29. Good topic-

The major legacy will probably be pretty bad, especially if some enterprising country takes the opportunity to, now that * has weakened the country and virtually destroyed the military, attack the US and add us to their empire.

It will take between fifty and one hundred years to clean up the mess he has wrought, if it is possible at all.

There is, actually, some good that he has brought about, assuming the lesson is taken to heart.
Strangely, he has proven once again-sadly-that religion and politics do not mix. They curdle.
The attempt to force the two to fit into each other's teepees winds up weakening or ruining both.

The second thing he has demonstrated is that, although democratic unitary government tends to be more benign than publicon, having the entirety in the hands of one party for any length of time just doesn't work.

Mean, vicious, power hungry vipers will find a way to insert themselves into whichever party is in charge, even the party of tolerance and compassion.
Power hunger, like money, will find a way to weasel its way into the system, no matter what.

[snowbear]

31. If you've forgotten what his legacy is... Here's what you do...

1.) Go to Google
2.) Type in the word asshole
3.) Make sure your speakers are turned up nice and loud
4.) Click on "I'M FEELING LUCKY" selection
5.) Sit back and enjoy!!!


~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~

[MGD]

39. My asshole objects to being called a George Bush

Calling Bush an asshole is an insult to assholes everywhere.

[teryang]

32. the fourth face of fascism in comparative studies of...

...major totalitarian governments.

[kentuck]

35. He destroyed the "Conservative Revolution"...

:)

[MGD]

36. Largest military blunder in American history

and the award goes to...(drum roll please)...President George W. Bush for his early 21st century war in Iraq. Narrowly beating out Lyndon Johnson for his roll in the late 20th century "Vietnam war", President George W. Bush will always be rememberedas the President who invaded a country anticipating that roses would be thrown at the feet of the invaders. His "major combat operations have ended" speech on the deck of the US aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln above a banner claiming "Mission Accomplished" was the deciding factor in this contest...

[Jeroen]

37. A lot of questions....n/t

[Stinky The Clown]

41. There's no way to answer this until after the trials

I'm sure he'll be found guilty. The question is ... of what and for how many counts?

[Kablooie]

45. The new messiah.

[Greyhound]

46. The first leader, through astounding incompetence, to publicly

expose the naked face of amerikan imperialism for what it is.

The amerikan leader that united the world against us.

The first amerikan leader to live in permanent exile to avoid criminal penalty.

The person most responsible for "The Crash" (a near-future global economic meltdown)