WTF, < 5 weeks before the election, Bill Clinton "...I love George Bush."

[Greyhound]

I saw this clip last night and though the drugs had some serious side-effect, but no, it really happened...
http://www.statesman.com/news/content/gen/ap/PA_Liberty_Medal.html

WTF?!? Now?!? :wtf:

[Bumblebee]

1. It was about the father, not the son. Your subject line is therefore

a bit misleading. One can still argue whether he should have said that but we need to be accurate as to what we are objecting.

[Greyhound]

14. Yes it was the senior gangster, but I don't think that is really relevant.

As I said, and posted, WTF?

[KKKarl is an idiot]

2. Clinton is a man of integrity

He is just showing his pleasure of working with George Bush snr on the fund raising. I have no problem with that. I am also sure he will not say that about the current President Bush.

[Greyhound]

15. No of course not, why would the strongest voice in the Democratic Party

want to say anything about the current perpetrators right before an election?

[silko]

39. This "strongest voice" campaigned

for Kerry and congressional candidates in 2004. All of them lost.
He campaigned for Lieberman and he lost.

It wouldn't have helped if Clinton had campaigned for Gore in 2000, either. Most voters didn't want him to do that and thought Gore was too close to Clinton, anyway.

Don't think that people vote one way or the other just because Clinton says this or that. It's not the way it works. And not just with Clinton.

Reagan was popular in 1992, he campaigned for Bush Sr and it didn't help him.

[Greyhound]

42. I'm pretty sure I would have remembered Raygun giving the media

a nice sound-byte saying "Re:puke:s forgive me, I love Jimmy Carter", so I'm thinking this was not comparable.

I don't think it is the end of the world or anything, but a terrible choice of company and even worse timing. Thank Dog for the Foley distraction.

[napi21]

3. Quite a bit has been said about how muchGHB and BC have been working

together lately. Is it possible that BC is trying to burry the rumor of hatered between the Clintons and the Bushies? I realize we hate to see this, but just maybe somePubs might hate all Dems a little bit less after hearing that?

[badgerpup]

4. You make a good point...

"Assclown Monkeyboy Uniter, the Decider" has gotten this country so damn polarized that people on opposite sides of the fence are not only not speaking to each other, we've almost demonized each other.
NOT GOOD.
A lot us on BOTH sides (freepers notwithstanding) are pretty decent people...
if we can work with each other we can repair this country a lot faster than if we are at odds with each other and working against each other even though we have same goal in mind.

I hope that makes sense...

[Greyhound]

23. GHWB is not a good guy, he is a criminal conspirator and a mass-murderer.

A long list of his crimes has been compiled her numerous times in the past and his pardons of convicted felons that are, once again, roaming the halls of power, has made the current clusterphuque possible.

[tinfoilinfor2005]

32. How do you draw a line through your words like that?

I've never been able to figure out that little trick. :)

[Greyhound]

33. [ s ] [ / s]

Gives you a strikethrough

[tinfoilinfor2005]

38. ok

Thanks!

[fuzzyball]

46. What's wrong with Clinton liking Bush? The Bushes are not flying

airplanes into tall buildings or strapping bombs on their
teenagers and exploding them in civilian areas. Wake up
and smell the coffee. The Bushes are simply political
CONTESTANTS against us. They are NOT MORTAL enemies. So, I
commend Bill Clinton for showing bi-partisanship, unity,
maturity and civility all at the same time by recognizing
the charitable work Bush Sr. is doing with him.

[tularetom]

5. You're going to get a lot of responses that portray Clinton's words

as "softening up the enemy for the kill" and "he has something up his sleeve". Folks let me tell you, Clinton ain't softening up anybody for anything except his own personal advancement, and he isn't going to ride in on a white horse to save the Democratic party either. He doesn't give a rat's ass about getting any dems elected except Hillary, and he won't do anything to hurt his own standing with corporate Amurka. He's not a "big dog" either more like poppy bush's pet chihuahua. Those who expect him to strongly take up the Democratic cause are gonna be real disappointed and real soon.

[patrice]

6. It is possible to have honest affection for some people AND disagree

with them about essential issues . . . SOME people that is.

The current Bush seems more like his mother than his father.

[Greyhound]

16. Are we suffering from collective amnesia? Before he inflicted the

current hell-spawn on us, his was the most indicted and criminal administration, and raygun before that...
Now that his plague has shown us that he can be even worse, suddenly he wasn't such a bad fellow?!? :wow:

[MADem]

7. Clinton is a GENIUS.

No one can accuse him of having a GOP 'vendetta' going on when he can so fulsomely praise Poppy.

And through the long lens of history, GEORGE BUSH will be how they refer to 41, and BUSH THE LESSER will be how the refer to the AssMonkey presently at sixteen hundred Penn.

[silko]

40. Einstein was a genius. This move is called

political calculation. And it's not rocket science.

[MADem]

44. Well, I disagree. There's all sorts of genius. Being socially adept

requires a certain sort of genius, all too rarely encountered...and being politically and socially adept is even more difficult.

No one's had more comebacks than Bill. He should have been toast long ago, but he isn't, and that is due to his genius. It certainly isn't rocket science, but then again, Einstein wasn't a rocket scientist, either.

[Greyhound]

43. That may well come to pass, unfortunately we will be dead by then

and we will have to live through this shit, so I'm not too concerned about how history (assuming they even bother to study/write it by then) will view either of them.

[Catherine Vincent]

8. You misunderstand.

That was code for "I love bush!"

[Greyhound]

17. Well, I guess we do agree on something, thanks! n/t

[az chela]

9. The next thing we will hear is that poppa got Bill in the Carlyle group

[hlthe2b]

10. Clinton has always sought a father figure...

that's what is at play... NOT George the lesser...

[karynnj]

20. He could do better

Jimmy Carter was a very good father to his kids.

[Greyhound]

21. Why couldn't he pick one a little less repulsive, like Kim Jong il? n/t

[hlthe2b]

26. LOL

:rofl:


My only consolation is that it must drive Shrub and Jebbie crazy! (as well as all the freeper trash).

[Totally Committed]

11. Boy, does he need to GET OVER IT!

These people -- HEADED UP BY PAPPY BUSH -- have done nothing but sought to ruin his life since day #1!

Now they are ruining our country election after election. SO, like the old bastard, but keep it to yourself, Bill. It just makes us look like a bunch of woosy pansie-asses.

STFU!

TC

[MoonRiver]

12. Clinton is an enigma wrapped in a mystery.

I seriously DO NOT understand his logic and/or strategy! :wtf:

[Greyhound]

18. I think az chela has got it on this one. He can't run for anything else

so fuck-all to you suckers, I'm getting mine.

[AtomicKitten]

13. this comment has zero effect

but it is another chance to bash BC, something too irresistible for some to pass up. Considering Bush Sr (the OP does realize this isn't Junior, right?) and BC just received an award together for their work on the Katrina fund, he didn't just pull this out of his ass randomly.

Junior is on the stump now trash-talking Dems. If anything, this collegiality makes the fractious White House and their minions look really, really bad in comparison.

[Greyhound]

19. Riiiight...

Fuck the party, fuck the elections, fuck his past crimes, fuck the fact that he pardoned convicted felons that are now back in power and killing thousands of innocent, fuck the future of the country, he's one of the good guys now. :eyes:

[AtomicKitten]

22. it's an innocuous comment

that is blown out of proportion by some that appear to prefer bitching and moaning to actually working to improve that which we can change.

[Greyhound]

24. So you believe this will not be used by the repukes and it helps the

Democratic candidates how?

All I can say is, I hope you're right.

[madfloridian]

25. To those who hold Bush Sr. in such high regard...

and have talked about all his good qualities since Bill started hanging around with him...I have a couple of books for you to read.

American Dynasty by Kevin Phillips

House of Bush, House of Saud by Craig Unger.

There are others.

And to those who are all upset because some of us do question that relationship, which is just way too close...could you explain the Clintons and the Murdochs?

Bush Sr. has not changed, Babs has not changed...she still does not want to hurt her "beautiful mind" about body bags. Bill Clinton does not need to be hanging with them. He may be doing just like Blair reportedly is...joining the Carlyle group with them.

[AtomicKitten]

27. I don't see where anyone here has indicated they hold

Bush, Sr. in "such high regard;" in fact, the consensus is contempt for the BFEE. I have never understood how exaggerating to punctuate a tangential point has any bearing on a conversation other than to use as a springboard.

And * ahem * your reference material has already been digested. Suggesting people must be uninformed if they don't agree with your POV is lame.

Again, BC's comment is innocuous and is simply being used as fodder to malign him, a favorite sport here at DU. But, as always, knock yourself out.

[madfloridian]

28. Some are way too touchy.

Bill Clinton is one Democrat among many right now who are working for the future of our party.

That was well done, AT... Several veiled...not really insults.

As the pressure builds up to 2008 and Hillary's run, there are going to be so many big dog posts here at DU that it will be unbelievable.

He's a great guy, but he is not the only one, there are many others now who have places in the party.

He should not be hanging around with the Bush family and the Murdochs. If Hillary is having fundraisers with Murdoch, then she will have some loyalty to him. It bothers me on many levels.

It is not an attack on Bill Clinton, it is being real.

[AtomicKitten]

34. no, just annoyed

at your incessant drive to twist conversations to trash Democrats on your shit list which BTW isn't "being real" but rather being manipulative, as usual. Trying to muddy the waters (i.e., suggesting "some" think Bush Sr. is a good guy) clearly works on some that aren't paying attention, but don't think for a minute others don't see this pattern of manipulation clearly.

[madfloridian]

35. I have no Dems on a "shit list", as you say.

You said once to me you never forgot, and I believe it.

This is getting out of control.

As for being manipulative...well...come on now. We have people on DU twisting and turning and posting all kinds of stuff.

The accusations are a little overboard.

[az chela]

30. If after reading "Hose of Bush,House of saud" you still think poppa

is a good guy then you are delusional.
Bill and Hillary are fence sitters.They go where the money and benefits are.
I loved Bill when he was prez but now I question his actions

[AtomicKitten]

31. excuse me ??

Please point out where I or anybody else for that matter indicated Bush Sr. is a good guy. It helps to actually read that which you are commenting on instead of proffering a knee-jerk response to something you are imagining.

My point is that BC's comment is innocuous and all this in-party ankle-biting is pointless.

[fuzzyball]

47. Just remember, honey attracts more flies than a pile of crap...n/t

[MGD]

29. "Keep your friends close

and your enemies closer."

[ChipsAhoy]

36. Clinton is sooooo wishy-washy

I never know what to expect out of his mouth.

And surely the drugs are having a bad side effect. He should just lay low and keep quiet. He's not doing us any favors lately.

[MGD]

37. I think he continues to serve the Democratic party well .

By continually having his face on CNN and Fox News, Americans are continually reminded of how far we have fallen since he handed the reigns over to George W. Bush. He is a poignant reminder of the many failures and disgraces we, as a nation, have had to chalk up thanks to this bumbling, incompetent, and corrupt administration. His face on CNN puts things into proper perspective.
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[Vidar]

41. Though Clinton is the far better politician, Jimmy Carter has never

embarrased us or given the slightest reason to question his integrity.

[Writer]

45. Kill them with kindness is his motto. n/t

[laugle]

48. During the phoney impeachment of Clinton, I watched

closely Bush, Sr. to see if he would pile on Clinton. He did not!! I couldn't stand Bush 41 as president, but he is no dummy like the dunce!!

Bush Jr. has tried hard to divide our country up and make us hate each other, based on party. The real truth is that most of us want the same thing's for ourselves and our family's, i.e., good jobs, education, health care, etc.

I think that Clinton is a person who likes to bring people together, unlike Bush Jr. who represents hate and division.

Afterall, if we dems are going to win elections, we must seek to bring people together based on truth and not deception.