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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:37 PM
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Tester’s Lead May Be Insurmountable
http://www.newwest.net/index.php/citjo/article/testers_lead_may_be_insurmountable/C37/L37/

This is an excellent breakdown of the Jon Tester - Conrad Burns Senate race in Montana. It's a microcosm of the Senate race in general, but more importantly it is a pickup Democratic Senate seat!

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According to a October 2nd article by the Missoulian, Jon Tester holds a 7 point lead over Conrad Burns. In fact, Tester will likely win the Montana Senatorial Election by a larger margin.

To understand this, consider the 2006 Primary Election. In a poll taken two weeks before the primary election, John Morrison lead Jon Tester 42 to 41%. Yet, in the Primary Election, Jon Tester beat Morrison with support of 60% to Morrison's 36%.

I showed this to the students in an Introductory Statistics class that I taught. Using some laws of probability, it was found that the probability of selecting a sample where only 42% of respondents supported Tester from a population where 60% of voters support Tester was less than 1 in 10,000. The students and I worked to explain how such a result could happen.

more at link
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habitual Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:40 PM
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1. some good points in there...thanx for the link n/t
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:42 PM
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2. What an inspiration this is
Jon Tester, common man, winning a Senate seat from the entrenched corrupt GOP power machine. That would be so sweet.

Sonia
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:44 PM
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3. I really like this guy
I sure hope he wins.
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:52 PM
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4. ~~Awesome!~~


I read about one of the debates where Burns says: "Look, I've been a resident of Montana for.. blah, blah, blah...."

And Tester responds back with, "What's your point? ....I've been a resident of Montana since the day I was born"

Seeing as Burns was born in Missouri and Tester was born in Havre, Montana.. it was just another in the line-up of dumb things Conrad Burns has said in his campaign..

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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:57 PM
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5. I definitely like Jon Tester. He's a real straight shooter.
:7
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 12:00 AM
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6. That's an interesting read
I was simply astonished by the primary results, but what this author doesn't take into consideration is that Morrison admitted to an affair with the wife of a client at about the same moment that the last primary polls were taken, which probably skewed the results. I have no doubt that Tester will win, but I think it'll be in the 55/45 range and not the blowout the author is predicting.
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 12:05 AM
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7. Missing from an otherwise terrific report is a suggestion, or a
group of them, as to what should be done to bring their polling methods in line with reality. Interesting article from a point of view rarely seen.
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ISUGRADIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 05:15 AM
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8. Another item to factor in is timing
A poll taken 2 weeks out reflects the opinion of the time. Two weeks is a long time in politics and with 17% undecided and margain of error factored in the eventual results were not unreasonable.
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