what would happen if we nuked North Korea 100%?

[p12psicop]

If we went all out. I MEAN ALL OUT, and sent our subs to totally destroy North Korea's military completetly, what would happen? If we dropped 3 50 megaton warheads on Pyong Yang and 3 or so 50 Megaton warheads on then DMZ, then what would be the aftermath? Just curious. What do we know? Can we obliterate them in one shot or would there be a response? 6 or 7 thermonuclear warheads would be a serious environmental issue, but what would be the retaliation? W@e have to consider this if we want to take their provacative actions seriously.

[Frances]

1. My guess--China would drop nukes on us

[petronius]

5. That was my first thought - China would be very very irritated

Which probably wouldn't seem like much of a problem to the Bushies - they'd just nuke China, too. :scared:

[fuzzyball]

14. China's economy would collapse in a hurry without USA markets...

and I hope Bush is not that insane to mnount an all
out attack on N. Korea, without them attacking us first
or atleast threatening to attack us.

[p12psicop]

6. China has maybe 10 or 12 single warheads aimed at us

If they attacked us with their paltry arsenal, we would be hurt very badly. Any attack on their part would be very grave, and world changing. Excluding their attack on Japan, Taiwan, and ourselves, the entire nuclear threat of the world would come to bear. The response would be a rapid and conclusive strike from NATO that wouls annihilate the entire eastern seabord of China. 2/3's of their population dead in 10 minutes from sub strikes and another 500,000 from airborne attacks from cruise missiles and stealth bombers. With our miltary spread thin in Iraq and Afganistan what choice do we have?

This crappy Bush policy of ignorance is a failure. We're back to cold war mutual assured destruction. Thanks Republicans!

[nebula]

24. 10 or 20 warheads aimed at us?

I believe your information is (really) outdated.

You might want to check your sources. I think you may be off by a few hundred warheads.



"In the late 1980s it was generally held that China was the world's third-largest nuclear power, possessing a small but credible nuclear deterrent force of 225 to 300 nuclear weapons. Other estimates of the country's production capacities suggested that by the end of 1970 China had fabricated around 200 nuclear weapons, a number which could have increased to 875 by 1980. With an average annual production of 75 nuclear weapons during the 1980s, some estimates suggest that by the mid-1990s the Chinese nuclear industry had produced around 2,000 nuclear weapons for ballistic missiles, bombers, artillery projectiles and landmines."

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/china/nuke/index.html

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

35. Only ten, huh?

Well then that would mean the loss of New York, L.A., Chicago, Houston, Philly, Phoenix, San Diego, Dallas, San Antonio, and Detroit.

No big loss, eh?

Of course, do you think Russia would sit back and let us obliterate China?

[The Magistrate]

32. North Korea, Ma'am

Is more of problem to China, and to Japan, than it is to us. Conditions are very different today from what they were in 1950, when the Chinese viewed the impending U.S. defeat of North Korea as a prelude to an invasion of Manchuria in an attempt to roll back Mao's revolution. The course this gentleman speaks of has many flaws, but a strenuous and suicidal military response from China is not among them.

[K8-EEE]

2. We Kill Millions Of People And Wreck Havoc On The Environment

Not reallly too good of an idea, plus, it's not like noone would notice and we wouldn't face any blowback here.

[MadMaddie]

3. If we were to Nuke North Korea....we'd kill millions of defenseless

people......the fallout would kill millions more in South Korea... the waters would be poisened and it goes on...

Retaliation inevitable...the US would get hit for sure...

[Vexatious Ape]

4. Besides kill a whole

shit load of innocent people and do real number on the environment--my guess is that the rest of the world would throw sanctions on our asses, and we'd deserve it.

[zonmoy]

8. would that be the best they could do

or could the rest of the world declare us a rogue nation on par with nazi germany and take over and punish our society hopefully by disbanding the union making sure that no nation could ever have nearly as much power ever again. Also I figure that we would be kicked out of the un and it reformed so that if they ever let us back in it would be as a minor member which would be allowed no power.

[hlthe2b]

7. Seoul, South Korea is only 12 miles from North Korea...

We have thousands of troops there.... Pull a map and I think it is not hard to realize where the nuclear fallout would go and how many millions of people throughout the regions would be killed quickly or slowly through the long term impacts...


I'm assuming you've not read much about the aftermath of Nagasaki and Hiroshima. I encourage you to do so. :shrug: No offense, but that people feel the need to even ask or consider this possibility only underscores the significance of my sigline...

[p12psicop]

9. even if I knew nothing about radiation

it would be irrelavent. However I have a state radiation safety license. I fully understand the effects of a thermonuclear war. We are facing a nuclear state that has ambitions to attack us and our allies. Bush and his inept administration has allowed this to happen. So we have to take and prepare for the worst possible scenarios.

[Old and In the Way]

13. Please......are you really scared of what NK could do to us?

:rofl:

[conscious evolution]

25. We are facing a nuclear state that has ambitions to attack us and our alli

Are you sure of this.Or are you actually believing what the MSM is saying?

[KurtNYC]

34. If that even was a nuke they set off Sunday, it was the tiniest

nuke ever detonated. Hell I could produce a bigger blast after a trip to Taco Bell.

NK's goal is negotiation -- NOT annihilation

[Old and In the Way]

10. We would set the new benchmark for a truely evil country.

A Nazi Germany on steroids.

The whole world would shun us. You could expect to see major acts of retaliation against us here and abroad. Of course, we'd end up in a police state.

Our principles (whatever's left) would be pretty much erased.

[lvx35]

11. The world would smile pretty and become single-mindedly focused on

destroying us. The US is the only country in the world to offensively use nuclear weapons, and if it happens again it will be a disaster. A nuclear retaliation on the US would be a matter of when, not if. NK's nukes wouldn't be destroyed in the blasts, either. Though they would probably just be used to hit targets in South Korea and Japan.

[spoony]

12. Do we make them that big?

I know that isn't the point, but the only 50MT bomb I ever heard of was czar bomba of Russia. I doubt we'd need three of those to destroy the whole country, nevermind the capital.

[AlienGirl]

15. I had a nightmare like that once

I dreamed that the US did something so horrible that the rest of the world took over and split the former US into occupied zones. I was hiding with some kids in a bombed-out building, trying to avoid the soldiers--not beause we were fighting them, but because hiding kids from soldiers is just what you do in those situations.

Tucker

[lisainmilo]

16. we would end up dead!

from the aftermath of the radioactive aftermath cloud that would reach the United States after the bombing!

[LeftishBrit]

17. The third world war, and probably the end of the world

Not recommended!!!!

[don954]

19. but what if that is your goal?!?!

[Alpharetta]

18. only nuking 3 cities would result in South Korea being bombed

North Korea has launchers spread all over, capable of lobbing conventional bombs and artillery onto Seoul. They would obliterate Seoul.

[intaglio]

20. Several effects, No order of priority

1) Humanitarian: millions dead, millions more poisoned, millions more starving.
2) Economic: South Korea ruined as an economy, US ruined as an economy (China holds vast quantities of US bonds all they would need to do would be drop them on the market).
3) Environmental: South Korea, Japan, Southern China, China Sea, Northern Pacific fisheries, western seaboard Canada and US radiologically contaminated; eventually even the Midwest will be contaminated. There are those who do not believe this last would happen for them let me advise that after Chernobyl (a chemical explosion) the radioactive cloud reached Wales (UK); there are hill farms in Wales that cannot sell sheep because they are still too contaminated.
4) Political: no US politician who supported this action would be able to travel beyond the USA/Canada/Mexico to do so would be to arrested for war crimes.

[razors edge]

21. Pyong Yang already has the dubious destinction

of the most saturation bombed place on earth, with an average of 1 - 500lb bomb per square yard.

A few of these so called dud nukes will show up in our harbors within weeks.

[Totally Committed]

22. My guess is, those of us who are left after China nukes our asses,

would be speaking Chinese for all generations to come.

TC

[rock]

23. A lot of innocent people would die

[leesa]

26. Why would we do that?

[BluePatriot]

27. I guess

...the poisoning of our ally SK, swift, worldwide retribution, and a ticked-off China?

[maine_raptor]

28. 6 - 50 Meg bombs. ......are you kidding?????????

Largest ever tested was 58 and that was the size of a cargo ship.

Largest in the US arsenal was 20 and that was phased out back in the late 70's, I think.

With accuracy, the warheads don't need to big, they just need to get the job done. But with the NK there are thousands of targets, many, if not most hardened to withstand close nuke blasts. Which means ground or sub-ground blasts to ensure a "kill".

So if as I gather, your question is what would be the results of nuclear attack by the US on NK?

Then you are looking at thousands of nukes exploding within a very small region, each creating a crater on the order of this:



or smaller, and each spewing into the atmosphere radioactive dust, gasses and other crap.

Never mind the political, economic, etc. results, or even the immediate death total within the region; the long term medical and genetic effects of such an event to the Human Race are frighting enough.

[MGD]

29. The fallout would kill millions of Russians and Chinese and South Koreans

and others. Birth defects would rise in the region a hunded fold or more. The world economy would fall apart like the house of cards that it is and armageddon would quickly commence. Just a guess really.

[ddeclue]

30. General McArthur? I thought you were dead...

Crazy, bad idea.

It wouldn't guarantee our safety but it WOULD pollute much of the Korean peninsula and expose millions of Koreans, Chinese, Japanes, and Russians to huge amounts of radioactive fallout. Our subs don't go around with 50 MT warheads anyways. They use multiple warheads with smaller bombs. I think only the bombers can deliver bombs of this size anymore since we retired the Titan missile fleet.

Doug D.
Orlano, FL

[onenote]

31. actually, I thought it was Curtis Lemay speaking from the grave!

[Kablooie]

33. One little guy who likes to read would break his glasses.

[charlyvi]

37. LOL!

Wonderful reference Kablooie! Evokes the spirit of annihilation wonderfully.!

[Bridget Burke]

36. No, we DON'T have to consider your plan.

Although I'm sure you find it amusing.

[The Magistrate]

38. Locking

The O.P. is no longer among us.