I have to say this folks...and i will vote for any Dem candidate BUT

[loudnclear]

Kerry really makes me uneasy. This "electability" = "gravitas" thing is kind of unnerving. He is so much an inside-Washington player that I wonder what the Repugs are going to pull out of the hat against him.
Anybody else have these butterflies?

[For PaisAn]

1. Mammoth ones

n/t

[onebigbadwulf]

2. I agree

WHY would anyone vote for a dem candidate who voted in favor of Bush legislature 85% of the time?!

WHY make the country 15% Bush free when you can EASILY make it 100% Bush free!!!

[blm]

7. Kerry voted 30% of the time with Bush according to CQ.

You must have read your data wrong.

[stepnw1f]

3. Look at it this way...

Anybody running against Bush should expect lots scrutiny and media pressure.

[blm]

4. Nope. Guess you didn't know the "insiders" ostracized Kerry for his

investigations into the DC powerstuctures that exposed the government corruption in BCCI, IranContra and CIA drugrunning.

The establishment was not too thrilled with the 10 years of work Kerry put into the Kyoto Protocol, either.

DC "insiders" are not big fans of Kerry.

[JNelson6563]

12. ah yes the BFEE expert

who didn't know Jr would "fuck up" the Iraq thingy. Oy!!

Julie

[shance]

5. It feels to me as if Democracy is getting kicked in the face again.

It makes me sick to the stomach because it is all so inauthentic, staged and dishonest in my opinion.

We will continue to become more corrupt until we stop the corrupt acts and stop living a lie in this country. I believe from my gut that this entire election is turning out to be nothing but a lie.

[Barad Simith]

6. Cheer up! If nominated, he'll be running against...

...the worst president in U.S. history.

[lancdem]

8. That's OK

As long as you vote to remove Bush. :)

[intheozone]

9. Yes, absolutely, besides being an insider

he does not impress me as being a leader, he seems more like a follower who goes along with the biggest group no matter where they are going!

[goldilox369]

10. yep

i'm afraid of what the republican machine is digging up to influence the mostly aliterate public who is going to decide this thing. I don't worry about people on here. At least they think enough for themselves. But after how much they attacked Dean, i shudder to think of what they're going to do to anyone else.
they're going to hit
Edwards & Clark with not having *enough* experience
Sharpton & Kuchinich with being a *fringe element* and you're just "wasting your vote" mentality
Kerry & Lieberman with *old ass policies & voting records*
Dean with *hotheadedness and negative campaigning*

You can see it gearing up right now! Barring all that, they'll steal it somehow, because everyone is afraid of what everyone else is really going to decide "game-day" and Republicans know that and they'll use it to muddy the waters so he can steal it like he did in 2000. It's going to be tight again, and that's how we lost it last time. So, yes, i am scared to death. and trying to decide what British Commonwealth to move to to wait out the destruction of the land that i used to call home.

[Padraig18]

11. HUGE butterflies.

He is NOT the best our party has to offer, even if you exclude Gov. Dean

[UTUSN]

13. Nope. Not the Teeniest Butterfly

It takes somebody who knows the game to take it home. Why is it such an attraction to have an "outsider" who will smash up against the wall of "nobility", losing and even if getting "in" being gridlocked to death with few if any agenda items passed. Check out all the pics of KERRY with JFK (KENNEDY) on the sailboats and other places. Is EMK not one of the strongest Liberal voices around AND nothing if not an INSIDER? Is EMK to be mistrusted and to have butterflies about? I don't know where somebody more Liberal than KERRY could be found, with the added advantage of knowing how to get the agenda ACTUALIZED. Folks, he's on OUR side and is a deadly competitor.

It's easy NOW to know to be against the Vietnam war. It wasn't easy when he did it. The later Bobby KENNEDY is one of the most popular figures around DU. You've got THAT part of (the later) Bobby in KERRY. You've the biggest Lib part of EMK in KERRY. What's with the butterflies.

[UTUSN]

14. Pics - Deep KENNEDY (Insider?) Connections

For coming from a wingnut, or just anti-KERRY, site, the pics it http://www.usvetdsp.com/jf_kerry.htm posts are no detriment to him around DU:


*******QUOTE******
Young John Forbes Kerry grew up well connected in the upper-class due to his Forbes and Winthrop roots.
Kerry is said to have idolized John F Kennedy, with whom he and his family socialized.
Kerry, who often alluded to having the same initials as President Kennedy, is pictured on the left sailing with President Kennedy. John F. Kerry, on a yacht standing directly behind President John F. Kennedy. Kerry (right) with President Kennedy (seated) 1962 Sen. Ted Kennedy and protest leader Kerry discuss the demonstration. During Memorial Day weekend, Kerry joined a throng of antiwar protesters on the green in Lexington, Mass., where he and hundreds of others were arrested. Pictured right with Sen. Ted Kennedy, Kerry was re-elected to the Senate in 2002.

**********UNQUOTE*******

[kenny blankenship]

16. RE not the teeniest butterfly...

<i>It takes somebody who knows the game to take it home. Why is it such an attraction to have an "outsider"</i>

Yeah outsiders never win! Like Reagan oops I guess that's an exception. Or Carter, or Clinton, or George W. Bush. Guess there are a few exceptions to every rule though, huh?

[UTUSN]

18. CARTER & CLINTON Were Gridlocked and Stymied

They didn't get as much of their agenda accomplished as, say, LBJ (an "insider") did. RAYGUN and Shrub have gotten a rollover, free pass a lot more, but are doomed to the junkpile of crass motives. I'm talking about "outsider/insider" in terms of "headstart". What's wrong with knowledge, experience, winning, and accomplishing?

[mlawson]

15. I am thinking about how I felt in 1992.

That was a different world, compared to this election. Even in the summer, when Clinton was behind Poppy AND Perot, I never doubted for one moment that Big Dog would win. Never. No butterflies, just wonderful anticipation of the November victory. I knew that Clinton had IT, that he could do it, no matter what the BFEE threw at him.

But this time, with the likely Kerry/Gebhardt ticket??? _______ help us... :-(

[rumguy]

17. I think I'd have butterfiles with any candidate....

There will be an all-out assault on out candidate...

But Kerry has been tough and effective lately...I think he's surrounded himself with a rag-tag group of fighters - vetrans, ex-Intel people, operatives from other campaigns...and he will have lots of money...

And he has shown he's not afraid of the AWOL issue...

[loyalsister]

19. Without a doubt!

"Thank you for your support Senator Kerry." is an unfortunate sentence for Bush to have access to.
I also have butterflies because this guy clearly has some very faulty judgement. He obviously can't read people very well. That's a quality I'd like to see in a president.