A cautionary note for Hillary/Gore supporters - remember Howard Dean in 04

[derby378]

One minute, Dean's on top of the heap of Democratic candidates, and many people were gearing up to hand him the nomination. Then a couple of 527's launched a stealth attack against Dean, he came in third in Iowa, and his campaign never recovered. At least he got the chairmanship of the DNC as a consolation prize.

But in 2008, what happens if either Al Gore or Hillary Clinton is annointed the front-runner before the first primary or caucus, and then takes a serious nosedive while some underacheiver clinches the nomination?

Just trying to think ahead...

[napi21]

1. I know. I was thinking the same thing earlier today!

I was firmly convinced that Dean was going to be our candidate! I was elated!!!!

I cried when the media slaughtered him for that fake "Dean Scream"!

It really is true. The early leaders rarely win!

[derby378]

2. Personally, I was all about the Dean Scream

I thought it showed genuine passion for the campaign, something I wasn't used to seeing on politics.

Dean's the reason I became a full-fledged Democrat instead of merely a "not a Republican."

[razors edge]

3. then heres rooting for hillary to get out in front now.

give me clarke, fiengold, gore, even sharpton with all his baggage for the freeps to dig into.

[robinlynne]

4. I'm with you.

[sandnsea]

6. Agreed

Although I prefer Clark, not Clarke.

[razors edge]

7. gotcha, i'm also lysdexic.

[madfloridian]

5. Not just the 527s. Carville, Begala, among others.

Those two were the worst, but there were many others. But they had Crossfire to get attention.

Almost every day they called Dean crazy. Carville even said Dean had a "political lobotomy."

When Gore endorsed Dean Carville said it was like doctor standing next to a corpse.

I could go on, but it was not just the 527 which was formed by campaign people from the other candidates....it was the Democratic strategists like those two.

He never had a chance. And the DLC was calling him a fringe lefty, I mean he was part of that group. They made fun of him insulted us.

Yes, Hillary will prevail. Money talks. Bill talks. Just give in and enjoy it.

[msongs]

8. maybe dean's slugfest with gephardt soured a lot of people?

and gave kerry his opening.

Msongs
www.msongs.com/political-shirts.htm

[madfloridian]

9. It was so so so much more than that.

But it could turn into a free for all if I post it...so better to pretend.

It is over now. Hillary will be the nominee. Acceptance is best.

[blm]

11. Kerry was running strong by Nov, but corpmedia was still underreporting

his support on the ground there up to first week in January.

Why did people trust the corpmedia "analysis" in the first place?

They hyped the crap out of Dean's yell and turned it into a scream to COVER THEIR OWN ASSES - they escaped scrutiny for their own lazy reporting.

So, they went overboard in blaming a scream that didn't happen and turned him into an object of ridicule that no candidate should have endured.

The media is the enemy of ALL Democrats, and it's best that people keep that in mind.

[JDPriestly]

12. Hillary cannot be elected. She is too cold. Not likable.

And -- as great a president as Clinton was, she would carry the burden of his legacy -- his enemies, etc.

Carville is a has been

[madfloridian]

13. It is called being "electable." Accept it.

It is easier that way.

[Totally Committed]

17. The Clintonista Mafia, along with their "front", the DLC killed Dean...

And, the Democratic Leadership was also terrified by the "changing of the guard" that Dean represented. They don't want us to have any REAL say in the Party. Trust me... they don't. They came together to form the "Perfect Storm" that took Dean down in the end, and the MSM was only too happy to help them. We saw "The Scream" as much as we saw Monica on the rope-line. GMAFB.

Our candidate will be the one they let us nominate. As Madf. said... $$$ talks, Bill has clout, and the Corporatists are not ready to have the popular will effect their control of our government. It'll probably be Hillary. She won't get my vote, and she won't win... They'll be STUNNED and we'll be screwed.

TC

[blm]

10. Corpmedia was tearing at all the Dems, it didn't start with Dean.

And I'd like for anyone to explain their reasoning that an underachiever got the nomination.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

14. It wasn't 527's who killed Dean.

It was the Congressional Democrats.

And he still beat three of them.

[madfloridian]

15. And could you please not say the chairmanship was a ...

consolation prize?

Actually I wish he had not run for chair, but he did. It may work, it might not.

[zulchzulu]

16. Any early frontrunner in the primaries is an open target ready to fall

Look at just about any primary race in the last 50 years or so and you will find that the early popular contender in the primary season gets knocked off.

Truman (1952), Robert Taft (1952), Humphrey (1960), McCarthy (1968), Johnson (1968), Kennedy (1980), McCain (2000), Dean (2004) ...