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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 02:25 AM
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If Harry Reid appears to be guilty of using his office for
personal gain, he should step aside from his leadership role...

That would leave the door open for Hilary to become Majority Leader in the Senate and get her out of the presidential sweepstakes...

I truly believe she would be happier as a Powerful Senator than as President...
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 02:29 AM
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1. Reid is guilty of using his office for personal gain?
Where did you get that from? Your beliefs as to what would make Hilary happier come from where?

Can you come up with some answers, please. Waiting for your response.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 11:39 AM
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10. Sorry, I posted it and then went to sleep...
I had been working straigh until then....

I heard about the land deal on NPR and I have been thinking that Hilary would be better suited to leadership in the Senate... And I believe, after watching her for more than 16 years, that she is a natural born legistlator...
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 02:31 AM
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2. He doesn't appear to be guilty of anything. Who are you listening to?
He transferred property from his name to a partnership that he had a proportionate interest in -- no tax consequences. But he kept the property listed under his assets, so it would be clear he was involved with the property. (The partnership had another name.) Eventually, the property was sold and he got back his proportionate share of the profits -- exactly the same amount as if he had kept the ownership in his name during those years and then sold the property.

The IRS had no problem with any of this because there was no intent to deceive and no financial consequence to Reid one way or another. But the Republicans want to make an issue of this because they're really scraping the bottom of the barrel.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 11:43 AM
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12. I'm an accountant so that makes sense to me....
It was just a blip on NPR and I hadn't seen anything on DU about it...
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 01:39 PM
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17.  I was just at FR and they really are agog over this
It's all they have , really.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 02:43 AM
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3. Your viewing, reading and listening habits are showing. n/t
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DRoseDARs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 03:21 AM
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5. Edit nt
Edited on Sat Oct-14-06 03:22 AM by DRoseDARs
nm
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 11:37 AM
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9. I heard it on NPR.....
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jumpoffdaplanet Donating Member (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 03:21 AM
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4. This was debunked
It's just a moronic reporter trying to convince the public the dems are dirty. As if that will convince the public to ignore the fact the rethug leadership protected a pedophile.

That so-called reporter is a moron who has it out for Reid and has done other stories that turn out to be bogus smears.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 11:41 AM
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11. I'm glad to hear that....
I was just wondering if this is what was happening then this could be a way out...

BTW, the whole post was to show we can't even afford to have a wiff of scandal surrounding our side...

Because if we do, and take no internal action, then are we truly better than the GOP, at least in the people's eye...

They will be watching us far closer than they watch Newt and the boys back in 1995...
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 03:52 AM
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6. This is disinformation.
Shows up in the dead of night.
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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 07:21 AM
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7. Besides, rumor has it that Reid told Hillary she can have the
Edited on Sat Oct-14-06 07:22 AM by charlyvi
Minority Leader gig if she chooses not to run for pres. To wit:


Hillary for Minority Leader?

Steve Clemons claims he's got some tip-top sources on a potential Reid-Clinton deal wherein Hillary would withdraw from 2008 and, in return, Reid would bequeath her the minority/majority leader position in 2009. A few points:

• If true, this is Reid's way of signaling he thinks her candidacy will be a debacle for the Party, and a disaster for her.

....snip....

• This deal would actually make an enormous amount of sense. I've been arguing for years that Hillary's natural place is as leader of the Senate Democrats. There, her megaphone, fundraising prowess, and media attention can enable even a minority caucus to enter the debate on even footing with the right. Additionally, she's shown an astounding ability to compromise, make allies out of enemies, and fit the collegial culture of the Senate. Those aren't qualities that suit her to the coming presidential race, but they leave her an excellent candidate for majority leader.

http://ezraklein.typepad.com/blog/2006/08/hillary_for_min.html
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 11:44 AM
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13. I think she would make an excellent majority leader....
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Solo_in_MD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 09:50 AM
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8. At worst is was sloppy reporting and not even that may hold up.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 12:12 PM
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14. It's a lot of talk about NOTHING - and it was over TEN YEARS AGO!
Edited on Sat Oct-14-06 12:13 PM by TankLV
Reid has NOTHING to apologize for or step down for.

Now, let's talk about why HASSART, REYNOLDS, BONNER and all the other REPUKE PEDOPHILE ENABLERS haven't stepped down or resigned yet!

THAT is the topic worthy of discussion, not this REPUKE NON-STORY!!!!
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 12:33 PM
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15. I heard it on NPR.....
Not on Cable News...

So it got me to thinking about Hillary as Majority LEader
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hijinx87 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 01:34 PM
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16. it was a minor clerical error

on his financial disclosure forms. he will amend them if
the ethics committee indicates that he should.

this is a non-issue.

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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 01:48 PM
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18. Good.....
I was concerned because it was on NPR, pretty reliable usually...
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 02:39 PM
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19. That was in the old days
In this through the looking glass world, even NPR is biased in what they air, what they don't what questions they choose to ask, and what talking points they allow to go unanswered.

There is no unbiased media. I laugh when the freepers call NYT liberal. They protected the neo-cons time after time. And when they do tell the truth, they are accused of bias. To quote Colbert: truth has a left wing bias.
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JohnWxy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 03:27 PM
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21. Well, there is a certain amount of boot-licking going on over at NPR.
They say things meant to please the Neo-Fascists in the GOP. The statements are thrown out there to please the NF but usually nothing is provided to back up the insinuation or implied indictment.

It's good to bring these up on DU for review and criticism.

the media have been an important part of the GOP undermining of our democracy and establishment of a one party state. It's very important to monitor the media's sycophants and bring such perverse behavior up for scrutiny. It may not change the perverted phony reporting but at least we may help stop disinformation from spreading too far and doing so much damage.

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JohnWxy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 03:19 PM
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20. Here is some more biased, distorted treatment of Ried matter by media:
Edited on Sat Oct-14-06 03:29 PM by JohnWxy
Wash. Post editor'l board, Lou Dobbs Tonight highlighted & criticized Reid
land deal -- gave Hastert land deal a free pass. -- on mediamatters:



http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=109x27735


http://mediamatters.org/items/200610130006

all emphases, my own:

In an October 11 article, Associated Press writers John Solomon and Kathleen Hennessey first reported that Reid profited "on a Las Vegas land sale even though he hadn't personally owned the property for three years" and that "Reid did not disclose to Congress an earlier sale in which he transferred his land to a company created by a friend and took a financial stake in that company." Reid responded to the reports, saying: "Everything is fully disclosed to the ethics committee and everyone else. As I said, if there is some technical change that the ethics committee wants, I'll be happy to do that." However, for all their scrutiny and criticism of Reid, both Lou Dobbs Tonight and the Post editorial board treated with relative nonchalance reports from June that House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert (R-IL) made almost $2 million on the sale of land in Illinois after taking an active role in the passage of a transportation bill that included an earmark for a highway project near the property. There is no comparable allegation that Reid's transaction may have involved official action on his part.


On June 15, the Chicago Sun-Times reported:

House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert pocketed almost $2 million from real estate deals adjacent to his Plano home in booming Kendall County, one of the fastest growing areas in the nation.

The transactions prompted questions Wednesday from the Sunlight Foundation, a new watchdog group, about whether Hastert, who earmarked $207 million in federal dollars for the proposed Prairie Parkway, had his profits swollen because of the highway.


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