Is Baker suggesting that we NEGOTIATE WITH TERRORISTS?

[fooj]

Apparently so.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/10/14/53359/686

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Political accommodation of the insurgents? Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the insurgents part of the "enemies of freedom" that Bush has resolutely committed to destroy nearly every time his lips move and manage to form semi-coherent words?

It is important to bear in mind that James Baker is not some guy working at a liberal think tank who is talking shit about the calamity that the Iraq war has become. Baker, as many of you already know, was a high level cabinet member during George H.W. Bush's presidency. Moreover, the current President Bush has previously committed to taking Baker's recommendations seriously:


Mr. Bush yesterday spoke approvingly of his father's old campaign manager and top diplomat, saying he looked forward to seeing "what Jimmy Baker and Lee Hamilton have to say about getting the job done."

How much you wanna bet that Bush regrets making a commitment to take these recommendations seriously now?
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[Jack Rabbit]

1. Sounds like it, doesn't it?

I don't know if Bush is going to take their advice seriously. Love him or hate him, Baker has considerable experience in this sort of thing and is a good judge on what is possible in the art of the possible. If he says that winning in Iraq isn't possible, then that is a hard nosed assessment pased on the facts.

However, Mr. Bush has never allowed the facts to get in the way of colonizing Iraq.

[Kagemusha]

2. Heh, are you kidding me? Bush's been preemptively slamming Baker.

It's subtle, but it's like, oh... it sounds like this:

"Baker is an elder statesman. ...Emphasis on elder."

That sort of thing. Bush was even possessed to say that "someone told me (Baker) said that cut and run isn't working. Well that's not our policy!"

I'm sure that "someone" told him that Baker had rather said, stay the course isn't working, but Bush's so red-hot with anger about this that it didn't compute properly in the first place. All that matters is that one of Dad's advisors deigns to tell him that he's wrong and should negotiate with terrorists and get US troops out in an orderly a fashion as possible.

Bush, listening to that?

No way.

[Marrak]

3. Get Jim Baker on the phone...

Hey Jim, 41 here...can you me one more favor and pull 43's cajones out of the fire there in Iraq? Thanks, you know he always was a dumb-ass...

<http://www.gregpalast.com/baker-takes-the-loaf>

Over the years, Jim Baker has taken responsibility for putting bread on the Bush family table. As Senior Counsel to Carlyle, the arms-dealing investment group, Baker arranged for the firm to hire both President Bush 41 after he was booted from the White House and President Bush 43 while his daddy was still in office.

Come to think of it, maybe I’m being a bit too dismissive of the Iraqi make-believe government. After all, it’s not as if George Bush were elected by the voters either. It would be more accurate to say that two puppet governments have agreed on letting the man who has always pulled the strings come out from behind the curtain, take a bow, take charge, take the money and run.

[rodeodance]

4. Jr is resentful that baker had to be called in to get his butt out of a

mess AGAIN!