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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 08:39 AM
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George Clooney declares his Presidential pick
ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: Let's get one thing out of the way first: Would you like to put all these rumors about you running for office to rest?

GEORGE CLOONEY: I won't be running myself. I don't think I am qualified for a job in politics. But I feel we need to make some changes. I am becoming the biggest fan of Barack Obama. He is the rock star of the Democratic Party. We need to convince him to run next presidential election. He is a great guy and super-smart and passionate about important causes. But if I did rule the world, I'd address the Darfur situation first. It's genocide and it needs to be stopped. Then I'd fire Bush and his cronies. And we'd put more value on vacation, travel, cultural diversity, and education.

http://www.ew.com/ew/report/0,6115,1546571_1_0_,00.html

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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 08:43 AM
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1. No thanks George. Stick to making (good) movies...
..We don't need another DLC'er as our pick...
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 08:44 AM
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2. George, you're adorable, but you're wrong.
Obama doesn't have the experience yet to make him qualified. Maybe in 2012, but not yet.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 08:48 AM
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4. In 2012 President Clark will be running for re-election...
...maybe 2016, or how about when he's established his bona fides and EARNS it....?
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 09:54 AM
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15. Hense the "maybe"
:hi:

No more un-qualified Presidents! :patriot:
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 08:46 AM
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3. We don't need another "rock star" president ...
... Look what Boy George and his groupies have done to the country.

We need a leader, a thinker.
We need Al Gore.


:)

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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 09:12 AM
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9. Um... I love Al Gore, but I'm thinkin' he fits the "rock star"
mold - especially with the movie and everything.

Just sayin'...
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 09:14 AM
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11. Really ?
When I think "Rock Star" president, I think Bill - for the flair, and George - for the mindless drooling cult-like fundie following.

Al strikes me as the anti-rock star because he's so ... normal.


:shrug:
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 08:49 AM
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5. Clooney has made some great statements about the current
regime and its disgusting behavior. But as far as Obama for pResident, he needs to leave the political handicapping alone. He's not what the party or the country needs. And he sure as hell doesn't have the experience.

That nonsense only happens in the movies.

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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 08:53 AM
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6. ayyyyyyyyy...........n/t
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 08:59 AM
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7.  Edwards didn't have the experience either when he ran

I hope he doesn't run only because he doesn't need to subject himself to all the criticism he'll get from both sides.

It would be great if he did choose to run but it would expose too many skeletons of both the right and the left.

During the primaries there are 8, sometimes 10 candidates running. All of them don't expect to get the nomination but many of them expect to use their constituents(delegates if they make it ot the convention) issues to be included in the debate and hopefully become a part of the platform.

Kucinich knew he had no chance of winning but it wanted to give national exposure to issues that may have been ignored.
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michreject Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 09:09 AM
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8. Is it just me
Or would the party of the shrub make Obama/Osama sound like the same person, thus confusing the ill informed voter to vote against Obama?
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 09:12 AM
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10. Yes, they would
They already did it during his Senate campaign.
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michreject Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 09:57 AM
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16. Really?
I'm out of his district/state, so I don't see other campaign ads. If I were a low life, it's what i'd do.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 10:01 AM
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17. Rush was doing it on his program.
Some other right wing hosts were doing the same thing. They would pretend like they were making a mistake.
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michreject Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 10:26 AM
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20. I'm sorry
I don't listen to Rush.:o
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beaconess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 10:17 AM
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19. Apparently, it didn't work . . .
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 09:28 AM
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12. I think he'd be wonderful as Gore's vice...he'll learn from the best.
Obama will have his turn.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 09:37 AM
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13. George, all the leisure time in the world won't compensate
for low wage service jobs because all the good ones have been offshored.

Travel isn't possible for anyone who works a McJob, and is hardly practical for people with children. Even if they can afford the plane fare, the dollar has lost so much value that they won't be able to afford eating and sleeping while they hop from museum to chateau to historical site.
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UnityDem Donating Member (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 09:37 AM
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14. Gore/Obama or Clark/Sebellius?
Think that American might be ready for a woman or black veep. Doubt that we're "evolved" enough for either for Prez just yet. Think we've got to have somebody on top of ticket with "foreign policy" gravitas or credentials. That's why I think we won't get Edwards. Kansas Gov Kathleen Sebellius is a rising star. She might help us turn out women in larger numbers.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 10:15 AM
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18. I truly like Obama.....and as a politician, he does have that "IT"
quality that not too many have (I've been watching the various debates of '06 candidates, and my goodness, there are a lot of politicians that really aren't very good public speakers at all--on both sides).

However, I just don't think that enough people are ready for a Black President, even if Obama was ready to be one. It would make it easy for Democrats to lose in 2008, which is why I don't understand the way that Democrats themselves are pumping him up!

It disturbs me the way that the media is "pushing" him. Anytime the media pushes anyone, I get suspicious as to the real motive of our corporate media.....and this is making me distrust the whole "Obama for President" wave that has suddently gripped our political headlines just 3 short weeks before these mid-term elections.

And yes, the name Obama is very close to Osama......and that's not exactly a plus from where I sit.

Look, Obama has got a lot of great qualities, and in a perfect world, I think that he could possibly make a wonderful president. But this is not a perfect world, in fact the world has gotten stinkier for minorities in the last few years, not necessarily better.

The fact that Obama has no foreign policy experience gives him a handicap out the gate that I don't think will play well for 2008. So if you add up the (that will be seen as negative by many voters)factors of his race, youth, lack of NS credentials and even his name to the mix, I just think that Obama getting the nomination in 2008 would spell certain doom to the Democratic party, although I wish it wasn't the case. Maybe that is why the Corporate media is pushing him, cause that's what they want! Far as George Clooney is concerned, he is an idealist obviously....since he ain't thought about none of what I've said here I'm sure prior to making his statement.

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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 10:27 AM
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21. If I take seriously anything a George says or does regarding politics...
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 11:11 AM
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22. I would suggest to George Clooney
to investigate Obama a little further and go beyond the "rock star" meme.

If only the media has investigated bushjr we wouldn't be past our eyeballs in toxic shyte.

I'm grateful to Clooney for his activism and would submit he is too busy trying to save Dalfur to have any time to know what Obama is all about or
realize how much more experience he needs from freakin' life.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 11:25 AM
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23. You guys are funny
You're assuming that Clooney hasn't done his research. It's possible that he did and Obama is still his choice.

We all have choices. Some here support Kucinich, Clark, Kerry, etc...

Why can't he like who he wants to like.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 11:35 AM
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24. Clooney can and did make that statement.....and what is beautiful
about democracy, and in particular about Internet boards, is that we are now able to discuss publicly what he has suggested publicly, and we can comment on whether we agree with him or we not in any manner that we feel is appropriate.

One can assume a whole lot of things; that he did his research, or that he did not.....and one can make a statement based on those assumptions....as you certainly did. We are doing likewise, and if some don't think that Clooney's quasi endorsement of Obama is wise on Clooney's part, this political board is where they can and should express such a view.

So in light of that I have just said, you are equally "funny".
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 11:45 AM
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25. Even funnier response
Of course I know you can talk about what you want to talk about. The same goes for me. sheesh
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 11:49 AM
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26. Haha!
:D
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 11:56 AM
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27. I think we all have to be the same
Don't like the DLC or christians. Is that how we become good democrat? :)
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 12:05 PM
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28. Agree to Disagree..I don't
like infiltrators masking as whatever they decide to call themselves.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 12:09 PM
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29. Yes, we will agree to disagree
Believe me, I am definately not an infiltrator. I just see a lot of groupthink and want to infuse a different perspective.

Don't think because someone has a different perspective is an infiltrator. I've probably been voting Democratic longer than most have been born around here.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 12:19 PM
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30. Wasn't suggesting you were an
infiltrator but dlcers and "christians" are another story.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 12:20 PM
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31. They're the infiltrators?
Sorry if I misunderstood you.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 12:21 PM
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32. I'm another non-infiltrator who's been very surprised to have...
posted 2 or 3 articles about Obama in the last few days (I post articles I find about any Dem candidate), only to see them evoke a hailstorm of negativity. I don't see why we have to destroy other candidates in service to our own. I like Obama; I think he's exciting and that excitement could elect him. On the other hand, I did some major volunteer work for Clark in '04, still support him in everything he does, and think he would make a great President.

I confess, at this point, I'm just looking for a winner, with a D beside his or her name.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 12:32 PM
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33. I'm old enough to remember when Jesse Jackson First Ran
He was scourged by the left and the right. What no one realized is that he was not running to win. He was running to provide a platform for issues that the majority society was ignoring. As a result of his candidacy there was a huge increase in the number of african americans who registered and showed up at the polls to vote. During that time there was also a sharp increase in the number of african american candidates that won their elections. Around that time Carol Mosley Braun became the 1st black female senator, from Jackson's district.

It's not always about winning that prompts people to enter the race.
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beaconess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 12:56 PM
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39. If for no other reason, JJ should get our thanks for taking "Black" out of
the opening description of Black candidates.

You're right - when he ran in 1984 and 1988, no one gave Rev. Jackson a chance. He did so, and hung in there, despite death threats, personal attacks, extraordinary scrutiny, etc. He proved he wasn't just a vanity candidate for whom only Blacks would vote, but one who reached out to Whites, Asians and others and earned their votes. And in doing so, he took the novelty out of being a "Black" candidate.

When Doug Wilder ran for President in 1992, his race was far less an issue than it was for Jesse Jackson. And by the time that Al Sharpton, Carol Moseley Braun and Alan Keys ran, we hardly ever heard them described as a "Black" candidate - they were just one of the pack.

We owe much of that to Rev. Jackson.

Thank you, Rev.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 01:07 PM
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41. Very well said, n/t
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 12:34 PM
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34. You were the one calling us "Funny"......so I was just responding
that you are no less funny.

But since you missed the irony of your own statement even after I pointed it out to you directly, I'm not sure you and I could have a cogent debate even if one was warranted. :shrug:
That is all.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 12:42 PM
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37. No problem Frenchie, it's not written that we must debate cogently
Actually I didn't miss the irony. I actually commented on it. :)
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 12:50 PM
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38. No, actually, you didn't.....quite get it......
because what you clearly said was that somehow "we were funny".....because we were commenting on what Clooney opined.

But the thing is that we are not all funny....and why would you lump everyone together anyways to make that comment? Seemed like a waste, IMO. What I said about Clooney and Obama were very different from what someone else said about the subject.

So the question is why are we all funny? Is it because we are all commenting on this message board, as you are? :shrug:

You could have said..."we are all funny"....and then it would have been clear that you actually understood your own comment and that you were not really judging the fact that we dared have something to say in reference to Clooney's comments.

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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 12:59 PM
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40. I said what I meant
You guys are funny in my opinion. How you take "funny" is your issue. What probably would have been a better way to go about is to find out the context that I meant it. Now you took it to mean that I was condescending. No biggie, it happens when someone has a different opinion.

Because I feel that the comments I was reading was funny doesn't mean you have to agree. We all find different things funny.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 12:36 PM
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35. I declare my pick.
I like pie.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 12:40 PM
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36. now see.....that's funny!
While folks opining on what they think of what Clooney said about Obama is not funny; it's politics as usual here at DU.

;)
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