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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 09:27 AM
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"Did Olbermann Go Too Far?" asks AOL
Edited on Thu Oct-19-06 09:33 AM by Frustratedlady
For those of you who were not able to watch Olbermann, last night, here is the video and the text of his speech.

I'm waiting to see some polls pop up. (In fact, I hope Olbermann pops up, too...wouldn't want him to be "disappeared".)

http://journals.aol.com/thefeedblog/AOLNewsTheFeed/#Entry2279

Edited to add to subject line.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 09:28 AM
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1. Bush Went Too Far; Olberman Merely Points Out Which Direction
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 09:29 AM
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2. Second that
Olbermann is the little boy, asking why the emperor has no clothes.
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 09:30 AM
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3. Do you really need to ask?
Especially here?
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 09:31 AM
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I'm not asking...that was the title of the article.
I was cheering from the bleachers.
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 01:50 PM
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22. Thank you for clearing up my confusion.
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 09:31 AM
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4. i guess we will know that when bush has him arrested.
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HelloDubya Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 02:13 PM
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25. As Keith said - "See you in Gitmo"
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april Donating Member (826 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 09:31 AM
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5. hell no we still do live in america
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 09:46 AM
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11. Yes, we still live in America...
an America where you can now be held without charges, tortured into a confession, tried on secret evidence, and put to death without right to appeal.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 09:32 AM
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6. No! Bush is the one who has gone too far.
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90-percent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 09:32 AM
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7. Thank God for Keith
He is the modern era version of Edward R. Murrow and part of an extinct breed of news-person.

I'm so thankful I taped him last night. Looks like daily taping of Keith is advisable for us all!

-85% Jimmy
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 09:34 AM
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8. Olbermann was as intense and as serious
as the situation warranted! This may be our last chance, in fact it may be too late already. It is clear that if he goes down he will go down swinging. The rest of us need to realize that if something does happen to Keith that the same fate is not far behind for us. I thought his comment was right on. Peace on earth, Kim I
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 09:38 AM
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9. What was the outcome?
Did Olbermann's television segment kill tens of thousands of people and squander hundreds of billions of dollars? George W. Bush has made a career out of setting the bar incredibly low for his accomplishments, but he has set one bar very, very high: If tens of thousands of people didn't die, and hundreds of billions of tax dollars weren't squandered, then I'm reluctant to say that any particular criticism of Bush went "too far."
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HelloDubya Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 02:14 PM
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26. Don't be shocked if Keith is in an "undisclosed location"
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 09:39 AM
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10. Habeas Corpus is serious stuff. Keith had his game face on. Yay! nt
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 09:50 AM
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12. Not far enough! Not NEARLY far enough! And if you'll browse through
the comments, the ratio was running at about 15 to one in complete agreement.

There will always be a couple of hopeless casesin there. Some souls can't be saved. Clearly they're the ones who deserve this twisted, perverted bush version of America. The rest of us do not. Good to see this! Make sure you check out the comments. VERY good to see this, and how those who'd agree with the snot-nose who would be dictator are in a RESOUNDING minority.

I thought Keith was just BREATHTAKING last night. The best yet. Someday it might not be John Walker Lindt. It might be george walker bush. BLEW ME AWAY! BRILLIANT!!!
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DWilliamsamh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 09:51 AM
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13. Sorry about that.... Eneter is too easy to hit
Olberman is brilliant and one of the few honest journalist/comentators in the business.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 10:01 AM
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14. Too far? Only if someone can come up with a reasonable
response to this:

"And if you somehow think Habeas Corpus has not been suspended for American citizens but only for everybody else, ask yourself this: If you are pulled off the street tomorrow, and they call you an alien or an undocumented immigrant or an "unlawful enemy combatant" — exactly how are you going to convince them to give you a court hearing to prove you are not? Do you think this Attorney General is going to help you?"

It will only apply to foreign born Islamic terrorists, with such foreign, Arabic, Islamic names as Jose Padilla?

If Padilla can be a typical terrorist, so can Smith, Fontayne or Edelman. We are not protected by who we our, by our citizenship or background or ethnicity. If they say you're a terrorist, and disallowed the opportunity to say you're not, whacha gonna do?
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HelloDubya Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 02:12 PM
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24. Nice graphic, good point
International signal of distress. As Keith pointed out, this is the most significant rubber stamp for the Chimp Emperor of any. As for Speedy, don't count on it.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 10:03 AM
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15. WOW
In 30 years, Keith Olbermann's speech will be in the history books as an example of the very few Americans who opposed the insanity of George W. Bush.
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 10:21 AM
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16. If we go in the direction
that this administration wants, if they aren't stopped, the history books will say what they want them to say. It's not being dramatic to say we are fighting for the fabric of our country and civilization as we know it.
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 10:47 AM
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17. keith
I had tears in my eyes watching his fantastic commentary...................
The end of Habeus Corpus
Corpus Earthling
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 11:23 AM
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18. It isn't AOL asking the question!
It's an AOL member on his/her journal page.

There's a significant distinction.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 12:06 PM
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19. What's surprising is that so many Limbeciles thought that
the extremes perpetrated against Iraqis right after Shock And awe would not become normal. They are a truly ignorant bunch, but if they didn't know that eventually WE would be subjected to the same abuses, they're completely deluded.
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 01:23 PM
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20. From one of the AOL "comments" regarding Keith O.
Edited on Thu Oct-19-06 01:24 PM by demwing
"Watching him, I get the distinct impression I'm seeing someone channeling Edward R. Murrow taking on Joe McCarthy. Come to think of it, Keith is taking on the same sort of scurrilous scumbags that Murrow was."

Amen to to that. I feel like I just watched an historic moment in American journalism.

Did Olbermann go too far?

Perhaps for his own career, or his own safety, but not to far for the good of the country. We need a battalion of journalists who would risk "going too far," to ensure that our government does venture to take that same risk first.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 01:29 PM
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21. Did he mention legal torture? Posse Comitatus? War Crimes?
Specifically retroactive immunity from War Crimes prosecution?

Nah, he could have gone farther.
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HelloDubya Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 02:09 PM
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23. I watched it. Unlike the Bush administration, Keith uses FACTS!
My favorite line was "Okay, see you in Gitmo"
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mwooldri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 02:15 PM
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27. Nope, KO isn't tearing up the Constitution, Magna Carta, etc. Bush is (nt)
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 02:22 PM
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28. No, others have not gone FAR ENOUGH!
nt
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 02:29 PM
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29. Heard On C-Span This AM That NBC & MSNBC Is Going To Be
cutting back on NEWS!! And it said NBC AND MSNBC!! Wonder if they are going to "kick" him???

I think he's been super myself and am so PROUD that he's speaking out! We need to write more KUDOS for him!



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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 02:56 PM
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31. We should hit MSNBC with some emails in support of O
After all, he put his job on the line. I'm going to do so right now, while I'm thinking of it.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 03:05 PM
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32. I Wrote Again Myself.... C'Mon Everyone...Send KO Kudos! n/t
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 03:10 PM
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33. Here Are Links!
Richard Kaplan, President.... feedback@msnbc.com or

countdown@msnbc.com

Tell Keith we love him!

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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 03:23 PM
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35. Thank you for the links.
I just sent my email and have also sent the link of his last comments to many who were not familiar with him. They are checking times and channels, as they were quite impressed.
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 02:41 PM
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30. Anyone notice the pattern on AOL...
the more vicious the attack, the poorer the spelling and grammar?

I just loved the one who has no idea what they are asking - says Olbermann is funny on the radio, he never watches anything but Fox, would not know where to find MSNBC - but says Olbermann is just desperately mouthing off to try to match Fox's ratings, which, of course is impossible because true patriots and intellectuals like o'reilly and hannity speak the TRUTH.

Top-notch discerning viewer there! Watch one channel 24x7, insist it is the truth, and refuse to look at the other - but state emphatically the other is off base.

Sigh... we will never get 100% of the vote, that's for sure. There will always be the 35-40% with permanant brain damage...
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Robert Murphy Donating Member (305 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 04:32 PM
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36. It is Interesting to Note...
While of course I do not advocate any such thing, it is nonetheless interesting to note that if the poll literacy tests of yore were put back into effect today, the Democrats would likely have a near lock on power.

Robert

P.S. There is one exception to this phenomenon: curiously, the Freepers of the world and their ilk seem to have little trouble correctly spelling words with four letters.
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footinmouth Donating Member (630 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 03:12 PM
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34. I miss Keith
I'm in the Buffalo, NY area and lost my power and my cable a week ago. I really miss all my cable news shows and my Cspan. I love Keith's show and I'm so sad to be missing his rants.
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