California Governor in big trouble with Latinos

[CAcyclist]

http://www.ndn.org/hispanic/memos/CALatinospoll.html

California Governor in big trouble with Latinos

New Poll Shows Governor trailing 64%-21% with key group
by Joe Garcia, NDN Senior Vice-President and Director, NDN Hispanic Strategy Center
September 29, 2006
Click here to view a powerpoint presentation of the complete poll results

A new poll of California Latinos shows a deep dislike of Governor Schwarzenegger. In this poll of 600 Spanish-dominant likely voters, the governor has higher disapproval ratings than President Bush, and is losing to his opponent Phil Angelides by 64%-21%. Spanish-dominant Latino voters make up about 10% of the California electorate, with all Latinos now making up about 18% of the electorate as a whole.
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Some of the key findings include:

Among this audience, Phil Angelides is leading Schwarzenegger 64% to 21%, despite more than half of these voters having no positive or negative opinion of Angelides (54% say he is unknown to them).
Schwarzenegger is not only deeply unpopular in these communities, with 69% holding a negative view of him, but he is also seen as untrustworthy. 73% of these voters said they do not trust Schwarzenegger to represent the interests of the Latino community.
These voters are concerned about their growing inability to afford a middle-class life in California, listing high cost of living, lack of affordable housing, and high natural gas and electricity bills among their top concerns facing the state. The national debate over immigration is also deeply important to these voters, with nearly 60% saying growing anti-immigrant and anti-Latino sentiment in the country has affected them and their family.
Fully 68% of these voters said the recent comments by Gov. Schwarzenegger, in which he referenced a Latina Assemblywoman as being “very hot” due to her “black blood mixed with Latino blood” were insensitive or racist, with only 26% agreeing the comments were “mostly harmless,” as was the primary reaction portrayed in the media.

[fooj]

1. I'm a native Californian...

I've been saying that to all of my out of state friends for at least a year. They CAN'T STAND him!

Since the last census showed more Latinos than Caucasians...WTF are with these "fixed" poll #'s!

[Mend]

3. will the Latinos come out and vote? Sometimes the polls reflect

"likely voters".....a person could be unpopular or popular with a certain group but that particular group might not traditionally vote. Just a guess. Example was that younger people favored Kerry but less than half voted. I hope so much Latinos with these feelings do go and vote.

[CAcyclist]

5. The poll states these are "likely hispanic voters"

so hopefully, it will translate into actual votes.

Angelides has not yet started to campaign because of limited funds compared to S. and he knows no one is really paying attention until now. The fact that S. has spent over a 100 million and is still not even at 50% actually bodes well for Angelides. S. has already maxed out his support. I , personally, have already been able to start shifting voters from S. to Angelides. We Democrats can win this thing if we don't let the media spin discourage us.

[slackmaster]

6. Latinos as a group are less likely to vote than whites

The most consistent voters in California are white property owners over 45 with household income over $60,000.

[Mend]

13. that explains Ronald Reagan....I never knew, thanks eom

[slackmaster]

17. Rather simplistic thinking going on in this thread

:eyes:

[EFerrari]

24. They are also less likely to have their votes COUNTED

and they are targetted every year for vote suppression.

[lcordero2]

2. Maybe Arnold should look at himself in the mirror

Because he is NOT white.

[bigdarryl]

4. then how the fuck is he 10 points ahead

[slackmaster]

7. See reply #6

The people he is in "big trouble" with are not big players in terms of voting.

[CAcyclist]

8. I disagree

I believe hispanics are the key to this election.

[slackmaster]

11. Shall I take that as a prediction of an Angelides victory?

In the goober-nut-oriole election?

[1932]

14. It's a recipe for victory.

[slackmaster]

16. OK, so we have "key to the election" and "recipe for victory"

Who is willing to step up and say that Arnold Schwarzenegger's lack of support among California Hispanic voters will propel Phil Angelides to victory in the November election?

Come on folks, this is your big chance to defy the polls and pick the winner.

[slackmaster]

20. No takers?

Attempts to retain or win the California governorship by seeking the support of Hispanics worked so well for Gray Davis and Cruz Bustamante.

Am I the only one here who remembers Davis speaking Spanish and backing Senator Gil Cedillo's bill to allow people who are in the country illegally to obtain the same kind of California Driver License that is issued to legal residents? The bill that was eventually vetoed by... ...Who was that?

Or Bustamante in his $1,000 suit and $500 loafers stomping around in a field burbling on about how he grew up a poor farmworker, therefore understood how people felt? Who was it Bustamante lost the special election for Governor to?

People keep making the same mistakes over and over: Ham-handed attempts at pandering to Hispanic voters as the way to win a statewide election; the baseless belief that Hispanics are of one mind and vote as a bloc; the mistaken assumption that Hispanic Democrats in California hold the same values as New England liberal Democrats; ignoring the diversity among Hispanics; and finally, putting too much on the power of the Hispanic vote (and really, the belief that there is a predictable Hispanic vote).

[mitchtv]

23. same crowd that ran Davis' anti recall

Is running Angelides non campaign.Angelides has been defined, attacked, and trashed, Like Kerry, he has not defended himself, in fact took a vacation after the primary, and allowed a multi million dollar attack campaign to go unanswered.He is only now introducing himself as a candidate. Good luck, Phil .

[PeaceProgProsp]

26. When you don't have money, you don't start running too early

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2572454

But when you start running and have the right message, you can still beat the person with the media on his side and with a lot of money.

Which is what Angelides ALSO did in the primary.

I saw an Angelides poll that had him close from 17% to 9% already against Arnold.

[mitchtv]

30. you start earlier if you have less money

you get creative, stage media events, visit picket lines, have press conferences. You attend 4th of July rallies, you Get on TV. You answer attacks. You don't take vacations. You get results or fire advisors/handlers.

[PeaceProgProsp]

21. You sound like you want Arnold to win.

[slackmaster]

22. You sound like you don't have a clue what I'm saying

:nuke:

[PeaceProgProsp]

27. Regardless of what you're trying to say,

it sounds like you wouldn't be unhappy if Arnold won.

[slackmaster]

29. I am generally a happy person

I try not to allow things over which I have no control spoil my mood. That includes the ever increasing ineptness of my own party when it comes to choosing candidates, and running campaigns.

[1932]

31. You sound like H.L.Menken and Dos Passos

when they were underestimating FDR.

See the book in my sig line? Read around pages 80-90.

[1932]

33. What's so hard about waiting until AFTER the election for Democrat-hating

Democrats to post crap like this?

I promise I won't tell you that hindsight's 20:20 if you tell us all that you knew Angelides was going to lose AFTER the election.

[CAcyclist]

9. $100 million buys a lot of love

I have been shocked at how biased the major newspapers have been against Angelides.

The SF Chronicle just endorsed S. after S. refused to debate Angelides for the newspaper and refuse to allow their cameras to film his interview or let them release a transpcript. A week or so ago, buried in the paper was a brief article about how one of the black church leaders, Amos Brown was paid $17,000 by the S. campaign , the day after the Chronicle touted how some black leaders, namely amos Brown, were supporting s.

Angelides has had to make a conscious decision to use the funding he has when most people are paying attention and that is now and not sooner. We can help him out by not being so negative about his chances and helping the campaign instead of criticizng him.

[bemildred]

10. The bias in the media has always been shameless.

But it has been so all along, since the recall campaign was begun. I think we need to work on Latino turnout. The Republicans clearly know how important it is, they are trying to theaten Latino voters into staying away.

[senseandsensibility]

12. I agree

both with your advice not to criticize Phil, and your assessment of the major newspapers. What is WITH the CA newspapers, for cripes sake? They are absolutely shameless in their shilling. And it has been like this since the recall. Gropinator is their boy. :puke: Seriously, it is worse than the lapdogs and chimp. I canceled my subscription to my hometown paper because of their endless ahnuld propaganda.

[1932]

15. That is totally the story of this race, and that's an excellent comment in

your last paragraph.

[CAcyclist]

18. Thanks! nt

[EFerrari]

25. I agree. n/t

[WI_DEM]

19. Now if they will only turn out and vote

[saltpoint]

28. Not to put too fine a point on it, but I consider Arnold Schwartzenegger

a glaring atrocity, a bulked-up nitwit with the soul of a weasel, and, to steal Molly Ivins' wonderful description: "He looks like a condom stuffed with walnuts."

Go, Phil Angelides.

[JI7]

32. HAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHA

"He looks like a condom stuffed with walnuts."

never heard that one before but i love it.

[talk hard]

34. what a bonehead

can't believe voters don't drop this chump

[1932]

35. They might.

[dailykoff]

36. suavecito!

Hope they turn out like they did in April!



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