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Fluffdaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 09:13 AM
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Are you paranoid about what Rove may pull off with 19 days left?
Despite Democratic strength in the polls, some Republicans are oddly hopeful while some Democrats are nervously paranoid. They share a belief that a vast national GOP machine can preserve the party’s control of Congress no matter how bad the political climate gets. This machine can purportedly work all kinds of sorcery, such as (no kidding) rewiring the brains of American voters.



Posting the rest of the article to save you from getting dirty at a RightWing-Nut site.........LOL

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NzQwZTYzMzNhY2NiMmU0M2ZhZTJlMThiYTg0ZDUxNjI=

The notion is mostly smoke. Karl Rove and other GOP operatives are smart, but they cannot have the effect that their partisans pray for and their opponents fear.

Let’s start with campaign technology. Thanks to costly databases, Republicans have amassed detailed information about millions of households. They reportedly target voter appeals with stunning precision, sending one kind of message to snowmobile owners, another to Krugerrand investors, and so on. This “micro-targeting” helped tip close states to President Bush in 2004. But Democrats are starting to catch up.

And technology can only go so far. A sophisticated database may spot potential party supporters, but if they lack any reason to vote, no amount of micro-targeting will move them to the polls. In an election cycle of Foley, Abramoff, and Katrina, Republican phone banks may get a lot of hang-ups.

The GOP purportedly has a great financial edge. Indeed, the Republican National Committee has more money and is spending it more wisely than Howard Dean’s Democratic National Committee. Yet Democrats are compensating by relying on labor unions and other groups that are not formally part of the party organization.

To gain seats, Democrats need not outspend Republicans. Their candidates only have to raise enough money to be competitive. And as early as August, they had already reached that mark in key House races.

Gerrymandering is yet another ostensible barrier to a Democratic takeover of the House. The redistricting after the 2000 census did protect House incumbents, making it harder for the minority party to score gains. Six years later, however, the district lines are wearing thin. Because of demographic shifts, Democrats now have a shot at formerly safe GOP seats in Ohio, Illinois, Virginia, and elsewhere.

Other supposed GOP advantages have even less of a basis in reality. Some on the Left actually believe that that mass media have a Republican bias. It should not surprise NRO readers that content analyses and surveys show the opposite. Fox News is arguably an exception, but liberals overstate its impact. Bill O’Reilly’s audience is only a fraction of Katie Couric’s.

Oh yes, and then there is that Republican ability to cloud voters’ minds. According to linguist George Lakoff, Republicans have developed diabolical concepts — the death tax, the Healthy Forests Initiative — that “are instantiated in the synapses of our brains.” Yeah, right. This bunch cannot even drive home the distinction between odd e-mails and dirty instant messages.

One variation of this theme is the idea that Republicans will win with “hot-button social issues.” Take a good look: those buttons have gone cold. Despite passing a bill for a border fence — which may not actually go up — Republicans remain split on immigration. There is little talk about gay marriage these days, and for a simple reason. Either by ballot measure or act of the legislature, most states have already limited marriage to the union of a man and a woman. Despite worries about activist judges, courts have been upholding such limitations. Unless the judiciary changes course or public opinion takes a sudden turn, the issue is largely on ice.

As for affirmative action, Republicans went quiet a long time ago. Liberals have succeeded in using accusations of racism to silence debate on the issue. This fall, a measure on the Michigan ballot would end racial preferences, and the state’s leading Republicans have come out against it.

Republicans have lost the immigration issue through confusion, the gay-marriage issue through success, and the affirmative-action issue through surrender.

A combination of lucky breaks and Democratic mistakes could still avert disaster for the GOP. But don’t count on the Republicans’ magical power. It doesn’t exist.


— John J. Pitney Jr. is the Roy P. Crocker Professor of American Politics at Claremont McKenna College.
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Mark E. Smith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 09:16 AM
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1. Not afraid, but it does keep people on their toes
Myself and 2 others plan on dropping campaign literature off at 300 homes today. Took a day
off work to do it.

Why take chances?
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habitual Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 09:16 AM
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2. Rove is spent
he doesn't worry me at all. He has played his cards, and keeps trying to win the next pot with the same cards he had last time.
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 09:17 AM
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3. LOL! "Bill O’Reilly’s audience is only a fraction of Katie Couric’s"
That's gotta sting the Big Falafel, esp. coming from the NR.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 09:17 AM
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4. No. I was, but I'm not now.
Edited on Fri Oct-20-06 09:20 AM by sparosnare
I saw the GOPs new terror ad and thought to myself how desperate they must be to put something like that out there - a last ditch effort to push their base to vote. Fear is all they have.

I used to think Rove was a brilliant man, but now I think he's nothing more than a criminal. Most people don't think like a criminal, so he's had that advantage; the element of surprise. At this point though, seems he's run out of tricks.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 09:18 AM
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5. Events have overcome the Republicans
Like Yurtle the Turtle... eventually there are simply Mud
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 09:21 AM
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6. Nope
Rove: formerly an evil genius, now just evil.
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solara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 09:31 AM
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7.  "Bill O’Reilly’s audience is only a fraction of Katie Couric’s."
Edited on Fri Oct-20-06 09:35 AM by solara
What does that mean? Surely he isn't saying Couric is a bastion of progressive or even balanced reporting?
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 09:34 AM
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9. I think it means
That for all the hand-wringing we do about Fox "News", the actual number of people who watch it (or any other cable news outlet for that matter) is tiny compared to the three traditional broadcast networks.
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solara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 09:37 AM
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11. Ahh okay then
Sorry, I am just grumpy.. I am just sooo angry these days
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spinbaby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 09:32 AM
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8. From the Weekly Standard
Edited on Fri Oct-20-06 09:37 AM by spinbaby
A friend just emailed me this:



"The problem here is that national security isn't the leading campaign issue. And saying it should be won't make it so. What's needed is an event--a big event--to crystallize the issue in a way that highlights Republican strength and Democratic weakness. It was two events--the foiled British terrorist plot and the need to comply with a Supreme Court decision on handling captured terrorists--that led to the Republican mini-rally in September."

Of course there's little time left for a major event to occur....

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/012/817vxgub.asp
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RufusEarl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 09:43 AM
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12. Well i was thinking this very thing,
the last trick Rove has is to blow something up! I wouldn't put it past him to do just that, i'll keep my fingers crossed and my head down until Nov 8th.
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Iwasthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 10:07 AM
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14. I have been saying that for awhile now... I catch hell from DUers too...
They are desperate!!! They WILL stop at nothing to protect their criminal asses. Including something unimaginable in our very own country. Afterword we will all be walking around like we got hit in the gut with a wrecking ball and most will fall right in line.
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RufusEarl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 10:14 AM
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15. Well, i'm of the mine that they've already done it once.
The theory of a dem win in the upcoming mid-terms could land allot of people in jail, and disgrace our government in the eyes of the world even more then it is. Those are pretty strong reasons to do the unthinkable again!
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Fluffdaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 10:14 AM
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16. I posted a thread about this on Monday. The GOP is desperate
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 12:00 PM
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19. OK - that's just spooky.
Particularly when you consider that the editors of The Weakly Standard are some of the same people on the PNAC board who wrote in 1999 that, in order to get the American public behind a war in the Middle East, we needed a "Pearl Harbor-like" event - and then we got 9/11.

:scared:
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rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 09:35 AM
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10. No. He's a real enema, er, enemy
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 09:56 AM
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13. No. He's Karl Rove not superman
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 10:20 AM
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17. Pigshit will sit like a good sweaty bitch and watch . . .
. . . as his house of shards falls to the ground in flame.
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Larry in KC Donating Member (465 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 11:53 AM
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18. I don't fear Rove but I do still expect October surprises...
...desperation calls for desperate actions. It's not like they're above these things.

Remember 2004? I told myself that for maximum shock impact (and before it could be debunked and fought against), they would hit us with something either Thursday before election day or by that Friday afternoon, before the late Friday news dump, so it could hit network news that evening. I kept checking in with the news those two days. Just when I thought we'd passed that "window of opportunity" late Friday afternoon the airwaves were filled with the Osama video. Some say it moved the vote just enough.

We can't be passive. We need to keep on the offensive, and also be ready for lightning responses to any crap they throw our way, not let it become the storyline.

I expect (and hope) to breathe a big sigh of relief on Nov. 8th, but I don't think we should do so until then.
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Fluffdaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 03:50 AM
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21. Great advice
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 12:05 PM
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20. I'm really and truly worried the fix is in.
If they steal another election I'm going to go completely berserk.
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Dulcinea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 04:38 AM
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22. No.
Rove isn't a genius, he's nothing but a two-bit con artist who sold half this nation a highly defective product. Buyer's remorse has set in, & there's not much he or anyone can do about that.
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 11:40 AM
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23. YES
not because he might pull another swift boat or some such. I agree we are 'way past anything that mild and transparent doing them any good. But specifically BECAUSE of the way things are going, and their desperation, I fear that they'll use the "desperate times call for desperate measure" philosophy and do something that has serious collateral damage. That is, intentionally put people in harms way, accepting the consequences, to increase the fear. I have no idea what, whether it would be domestic, in Iraq, or perhaps somewhere else entirely.
It would have to be a drastic demonstration of the "threat" without reflecting on their incompetance in allowing it to occur. It would almost certainly involve massive casualties.
So yes, I am paranoid.
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