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opusprime Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 02:39 PM
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Limbaugh - "Cut and Run Conservatives"
Has anyone been listening to this today? They are starting to turn on each other big time, and Limbaugh is having a hard time defending it.

I guess the basic premise is that if you dont support the Republican juggernaut, you are a "Cut and Runner". The sloganeering is mezmerizing.

I didnt listen to the whole show (it's physically impossible for me to do as I would become violently ill), but it seemed the entire last hour today was dedicated to attacking fellow Conservatives!! They are starting to raise the flag of defeat, and turn on their own.

Limbaugh's only argument appears to be "do you think Nancy Pelosi is going to be better". And the response he is getting from his Conservative (facist) cult following, is a resounding "YES". She will be better, and the Republicans need to learn a lesson.

I found this editorial describing the "Cut and Run Conservative". Give me a K&R.

http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/valois/061019

snip...

"And just what is a "cut-and-run conservative"? From what I can tell, this label applies to anyone who holds the (to Rush) illogical opinion that Republicans ought to behave like Republicans, and that if they don't, there isn't much use in voting them into office again. There are evidently — gasp! — voters who want their elected representatives to represent them, and who refuse to declare the mere holding of an office on the part of someone whose use of that office is despicable a "victory" in and of itself. Even among those who chuckle at the EIB Network's clever parodies, there are apparently some people who don't consider the ideological suicide currently being committed by American culture to be a laughing matter after all. And despite being made the butt of that network's jokes myself, I am proud to declare myself one of them.

It is a little bewildering to be called a "cut-and-run conservative" all of a sudden, but then again, I was never totally clear on how those who believe what I do came to be called "conservatives" in the first place. Last time I checked, we were just Americans — people who, despite differences that ran less deep, were bonded nonetheless by a national identity springing from the Declaration of Independence and its enumeration of humanity's basic, God-given rights. When certain groups in our society began to depart from this fundamental recognition, evidently those who wanted to conserve it became known as "conservatives."

Now we find — as we have long suspected — that Mr. Limbaugh does believe that bedrock American principle is just another political football. Isn't that clearly implied, when "victory" is defined as keeping one party in power, regardless of how that power is (or isn't) being used? In openly embracing such a viewpoint, Mr. Limbaugh has departed from the very meaning of the movement of which he has become the undisputed mouthpiece. It's a shame that the Institute has become so advanced in its conservative studies that it has detached itself from the basics. Better (I submit) to be a cut-and-run conservative than not to be conservative at all!

Rush says that those of us who don't want to go on being a football-kicking Charlie Brown to the Republican leadership's Lucy have been duped by the media. He says he has not accomplished anything in nearly two decades, if his own audience can still so easily have the wool pulled over its collective eyes. He doesn't understand how his own passionate commitment to the conservative cause can apparently be going unrequited."
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 02:42 PM
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1. No, not being a masochist, I don't listen to Limbaugh. NT
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 02:49 PM
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2. I heard that earlier in the week-his end point was about McCain
"McCain is NOT a conservative!!"

It was quite a rant and it was very desperate. I think that this was after he had supposedly met with W and Rove (but apart from the other radio hate people).

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Joe for Clark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 02:49 PM
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3. K and R
I admit I listen to Rush on my way to work - I think his dialogue is hysterically funny - he is just so full of himself it -- he just cracks me up.

What I heard - he sure was ripping into "cut-and-run conservatives" this am.

You know - old Rush may have a seriously unintended consequence in Conneticutt. I so seriously doubt a large majority of republicans can hold their nose long enough to vote Lieberman - and that, if they believe in the larger sense they lose anyway - they will vote their conscience. GO down with dignity, so to speak.

Joe

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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 02:50 PM
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4. It's hard work being a RW Apologist/Propagandist.





If times get much worse for Pimple-Butt he might
not be able to score with his local dealer. Might
even have to cancel some fun weekends in the
Dominican Republic.





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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 02:51 PM
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5. He was baying that D's are terrorists too...as well as the notion that we
don't have any ideas...Well, seems to me the ideas the neo-cons have pushed have finally made it known throughout the nation that they are idiots.

All he talks is "sloganeering", "cut and run conservatives,", "drive by media", and the like. He's lost most of his audience, he's telling people that HE gave us the bush administration, that the bush administration is the most Christian in the county's history...he's completely lost it.

It is kind of fun to listen to him as he spins out of control...:)

For a while, he was blaming everyone else for the Foley fiasco, "just let it go"...yet he spent all 5 shows in one week discussing/lamenting over the situation, that's 15 hours out of 15 about Foley...but it was all the other media outlets that were to blame...:eyes:
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opusprime Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 03:00 PM
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7. "It is kind of fun to listen to him as he spins out of control... "
Yeah, that's what I was getting out of it. What is the german word for enjoying watching someelse's demise?? Schaden... something. My German sucks.

As a hockey fan, I like watching the games where my team is up 6-0, and they keep on scoring. Granted that isnt happening with my hockey team this year, but I'll take that score with my political team instead!!

GO DEMOCRATS!! DONT SLOW DOWN, DONT LET UP. LETS FINISH THIS THING ONCE AND FOR ALL.
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 03:08 PM
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9. Schadenfreund? Is that it?
My fifth grade German is showing.
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opusprime Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 03:17 PM
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10. Yeah, that's it!!
Damn, I was closer than I thought.

Thanks!!
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 02:59 PM
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6. Is this the big conservative meltdown we've been waiting for?
I hope so, it looks like Foley has started a chain reaction that could cause some serious damage to the republican party. The next few months are going to be very entertaining. :popcorn:
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 03:49 PM
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12. i think it's been coming for quite sometime...
what the R's needed was an excuse to call it quits on the bush regime.

It's hard enough o admit you made a mistake in the first place, but trying to find a way out while attempting to keep 'some' kind of integrity is extremely difficult. The real R's and the real conservatives have had it w/the neo-cons and the religious right. They have to face the fact that these REALLY creepy people have destroyed not just their party, but the nation as well.

The level of tolerance is now zero, the rabid RW'ers will always believe this is the party of Lincoln, but the majority have realized they've been bilked and what was once a party that cared about people has been hijacked by a combination of business interests, religious fanatics and people just too stupid to tie their own shoes.

The GOP has become the Ghost of Patricians party...they are a shell of what they once were, and they are down to the wire in credibility...:D

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hashibabba Donating Member (894 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 03:03 PM
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8. Its about time. They're beginning to turn on each other and
eat their young.
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Efilroft Sul Donating Member (827 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 03:25 PM
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11. At least cut-and-run conservatives have fought.
Love-chunks Limbaugh should thank his lucky stars that an anal cyst kept his ass out of Vietnam. I don't care if he's criticizing others about the Iraq War or the abandonment of a failed ideology, the chickenhawk has no business criticizing liberals or conservatives who have come to their senses with that cut-and-run nonsense.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 03:53 PM
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13. Evangelicals got a taste of reality via Ralph Reed, Abramoff scandals
Limbaugh won't even come into work after the election is over due to lack of material!!
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Marrak Donating Member (332 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 05:26 PM
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14. Rush...he's a cannibal...
yum...get me some 'cut'n runners'!

They first turn on their own kind. They'll be devouring their young next!
:freak:
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