Bush: "It is interesting what's happened to the Democrat Party"

[Human Torch]

During a speech delivered at a National Republican Senatorial Committee reception, President George Bush suggested that a "philosophical shift" by the Democratic Party began in the Cold War era, stating that the party at that time gave up the war against communism and backed away from beliefs in "the power of liberty and freedom."

"It is interesting what's happened to the Democrat (sic) Party," said Bush. "You know, I'm reading a lot of history these days."

Bush praised Democratic Presidents Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Harry Truman, and John F. Kennedy for understanding "the challenges of their time," their willingness "to confront those challenges with strong leadership," and their "great faith in the power of liberty and freedom."

"And then something began to change," Bush said. "In 1972, the Democrats nominated a presidential candidate who declared: I don't like communism, but I don't think we have any great obligation to save the world from it," the president continued. "In other words, there began a slow shift of philosophy in the Democrat (sic) Party." Bush claimed that "at the height of the Cold War, a Democrat president told the country that America had gotten over, quote, 'inordinate fear of communism.'"

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Bush_claims_Democrats_philosophical_shift_began_1020.html

[Nordmadr]

1. There he goes again, everyone knows he can't read. N/T

[wicket]

2. I'm glad they added the "sic" after Democrat

:evilgrin:

Maybe along with all of the history books he's reading (snicker), ol' Georgie could brush up on his grammar.

[Union Thug]

3. Whatta ya mean? He's been reading those Shake-Spears n/t

[wicket]

32. You better watch out

You better watch out or Bushie will go Nu-Cu-Lar on your ass :evilgrin: :P

[MADem]

9. So am I!! And anytime a newspaper quotes some fuckhead saying

Democrat with out the IC, we should call their editor on it.

[wicket]

33. I love that idea!

I shall start doing just that :D

[Up2Late]

23. "...brush up on his grammar?" That's not a mistake, it's a very deliberate

...effort, by KKKarl and his buddies to change how Americans use the word.

Btw, for those of us who are not up on editing marks, could you explain the meaning of (sic), and how and why it's used.

Thanks.

[Hav]

27. .

It's used here to make clear that "Democrat", which is apparently wrong, was part of the actual quote by the dumbass and not a mistake from the paper that published it.

[Cobalt-60]

29. They've been at it a while

You encounter this in news reels from the early 50s.
It didn't stick then and it appears to be fading now.

[wicket]

31. No problem

Sic means literally, "intentionally so written" so people reading will not think it's a mistake on the part of the publisher, that it is replicating how it was originally written/spoken.

I know it's intentional - I just like seeing them called on it. I should've used the sarcasm button :D The only reason why they do this is that "Democrat" polls more negatively than "Democratic" in their focus groups. But Bush, er, doesn't listen to polls ;)

On edit, some good info here:

http://mediamatters.org/items/200608160005

http://www.newyorker.com/talk/content/articles/060807ta_talk_hertzberg

[eppur_se_muova]

53. literally, "there!" (in Latin) to point out a mistake.

Editors wouldn't dream of using English when Latin is so universally understood.:evilgrin:

[cui bono]

49. It's an intentional thing the Repugs are doing so that they don't have to

call the party Democratic. I guess since they're supposedly the ones pushing for democracy around the world. I don't know the full details, but I remember hearing Al Franken talking about it and saying that a lot of the RW pundits and talk show hosts started doing it so he said that we should all refer to their party as the Republic Party.

[Wickerman]

4. 'inordinate fear of communism.'"

subplanted by your own inordinate fear of terrorism. Yep, you and your ilk are dinosaur one-trick ponies. All fear, all the time. Fear, self, and hate are all ya got.

[Supersedeas]

44. inordinate fear....something that we need more of

[LibDemAlways]

5. Can you imagine another President admitting that he's

"reading history," as though it's all a revelation to him? Is there a book called "US History for Dummies" because, if there is, that's what someone sent him.

[elehhhhna]

43. "Bush earned an undergraduate degree in history from Yale in 1968."

http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/feb2001/nf20010215_777.htm

[LibDemAlways]

47. I would say Bush's rich daddy bought him a slot

at Yale and his profs took pity on the moron and gave him "gentlemen's C's" and he barely graduated -is closer to the truth!

[sutz12]

59. Replace "earned" with "received." I believe that's more accurate. nt

[SharonAnn]

65. Yes, thank you. And the same when execs get paid mega-bucks.

I maintain that they did not "earn" the money. They "received" it or were "paid" it.

It's all about framing the subject or issue.

These people haven't "earned" much of anything. They've just rigged the system to benefit themselves.

[TankLV]

62. My sister went to Yale. Yale has NO undergraduate programs I thought.

You have to have gotten a bachelor degree someplace else first in order to attend...

Or maybe it's only for some colleges at Yale?

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

67. No, Yale is a University with an undergraduate college (where you earn

a Bachelor's degree) as well as professional schools and graduate programs.

Shrub went to the undergraduate college there.

[TankLV]

74. Thank you for your info.

Now I know...

[Stand and Fight]

45. Yes, there is... I own it in fact...

Kind of interesting to tell you the truth and I'm a history buff. Figured I'd buy it to see how accurate the facts are.

[Up2Late]

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[Catherine Vincent]

6. BS. Bush doesn't remember any of that crap.

[C_U_L8R]

7. Georgie needs to tend to his own backyard

before he starts judging others

(and making shit up while he's at it.. jesus wouldn't like that)

[jenmito]

8. "You know, I'm reading a lot of history these days."

Was this BEFORE or AFTER the "three Shakespeares" he read? :eyes: He's so full of it. I'm sure Laura or Condi told him a few things to repeat in speeches.

[Phredicles]

14. So is "My Pet Goat" a treatise on agricultural practices through the ages?

[jenmito]

22. Good question...

And funny, too. :D

[cosmik debris]

10. He forgot 1964 when the Publican Party abandoned

the middle of the road to pander to the racist/religious right!

[OnionPatch]

50. I don't know

I think they've always stayed true to their values; Elitism and racism.

[no_hypocrisy]

11. Reading history?! * couldn't tell you in which order

Roosevelt, Truman, and Kennedy served. And one of his MBA professors recalls how * explicitly opined that Social Security was nothing more than socialism and therefore, bad. Even if he were reading history, he certainly does not know how to interpret it or to apply it.

[Joe for Clark]

18. Oh, hes reading - checks out books from the elementary

school all the time. I hear he likes the Pop-up books the best.

Joe

[China_cat]

25. Was that before or after the debate

where Bush accused the Democrats of treating Social Security "like it's some kind of government program".

[louis-t]

12. Readin' a lot of history, but still refuses to learn from it.

Asshole.

[sinkingfeeling]

13. 1972, oh yes, Bush was stoned out of his mind and doesn't remember

having lived through those years. This man is bat shit crazy.

[lvx35]

15. So what? Getting over fear of communism was a great step.

When it was left to its own devices, it lead to economic collapse and reforms in the USSR, and reforms are plotting forward in China. In fact, the reforms would be plotting forward a lot faster if we would stop scaring the shit out of these countries, and giving them the idea that they need nukes or authoritarian states to defend themselves from us.

[SteppingRazor]

16. "It's interesting what's happened to the Republican Party"

During a speech delivered while shitfaced and screaming at his television, DU Moderator SteppingRazor suggested that a "philosophical shift" by the Republican Party began in the Cold War era, stating that the party at that time "gave up belief in, you know, reality" and backed away from "unimportant stuff like the fucking Constitution for God's fucking sake."

"It is interesting what's happened to the Republican Party," said SteppingRazor. "You know, I've read a lot of history — unlike some presidents I could name."

SteppingRazor praised Republican Presidents Abraham Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, and Dwight Eisenhower for understanding "the challenges of their time," their willingness "to confront those challenges with strong leadership," and their "great faith in the power of liberty and freedom."

"And then something began to change," SteppingRazor said. "In 1980, the Republicans nominated a presidential candidate who declared: This may be the generation that sees Armageddon," the moderator continued. "In other words, there began a slow shift of philosophy in the Republican Party." SteppingRazor claimed that "at the height of the Cold War, a president told the country that he believed in religio-crazy nonsense. They've been electing batshit-insane presidents ever since."

[JeffR]

24. Post of the month!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[SteppingRazor]

26. gracias!

It came to me all at once, like an epiphany, or maybe more like a 100-mile-per-hour, runaway 18 wheeler driven by a meth-crazed trucker named Bubba.

[JeffR]

34. Almost an hour later, I'm still laughing

:applause:

[The Count]

37. I concur! Outstanding!

[eppur_se_muova]

54. Most excellent response -- makes SO much more sense than the original ! nt

[rlpincus]

17. Republican history circa 1972 is equally interesting

Nixon opened the door to the evil communists in the USSR and China. Nixon fought a secret war. Best yet, he committed his party to undermining the Constitution, using money donated by the Silent Majority to his Committee To Re-Elect The President (CREEP, can you believe it?) to finance dirty tricks, distribute hush money, pay the legal bills of criminals, and lying through his teeth about the whole thing. But I have no doubt that the Fearless Leader--and now the Fearless Reader--has glossed over those facts.

[ladywnch]

19. he obviously doesn't remember his own statements

made during the 2000 elections....."I don't believe in nation building....that's not our (USA) role" and other words about not telling the rest of the world how to live, yet feels comfortable to call out:

<<I don't like communism, but I don't think we have any great obligation to save the world from it,">>

[HereSince1628]

20. They really don't want us to revisit Republican lunacy in the '50s

And how modern republicans turned their backs on the wisdom of Eisenhower regarding on avoiding a military-industrial power grab.

[Efilroft Sul]

21. Bush's "indordinate fear of communism" kept him out of Vietnam.

He has no right to talk about Republican bravery when he was getting drunk, coking up, and getting laid stateside while other boys died in his place in some swamp.

[enid602]

28. 1972

"In 1972, the Democrats nominated a presidential candidate. . ." Gee, George, what else happened that year? Or were you too scared, drunk and stoned to remember?

[Imagevision]

30. Bush: scare tactics won't work so he's killing us with his wisdom...

hahahahahahahahahaha George, lame ducky time in 18 days

[The Count]

35. "history? I don't know, we'll be all dead by then" W's answer to Woodward

question about how does he thing history will view that.
By the way he spells "Democrat party" it's clear who's putting badly spelled words in his hangin mouth.

[Straight Shooter]

36. In other words, bush believes McCarthy was right. n/t

[The Count]

40. Seems Coulter is his "histary teecher" nowadays

[Zynx]

38. If he had read history, he would know that toppling a government of a

polyglot country and attempting to occupy it is a bad idea. See Chile with Peru after the War of the Pacific and France with Mexico in the 1860s.

[jrw14125]

39. INSULT

I'm going to start calling the Republicans the Republic Party. Since apparently the Dems aren't allowed to call themsevles by their own name, it's only fair.

I mean, you know you're a helpless opposition party with no power in government when the majority party changes your name on you.

[burythehatchet]

41. Sorry Sack of Steaming Shite

[Human Torch]

42. Don't forget, the Decider is a "Uniter, not a Divider"...

...but I absolutely agree with your assessment.

:patriot:

[tom_paine]

46. Bushler the Concern Troll

Uncle Karl Herr Roverer must have sent word to the Mighty Wurlitzer that Concern Troll is the way to go.

Bushevik Mole (most likely) Liebermann has been doing a considerable amount of Concern Troll and, though I don't listen to Propaganda, I would expect all parts of the Mighty Wurlitzer to be echoing it now or soon.

[Cha]

48. It's REALLY INTERESTING what's

happened to the party of Lincoln..haha..turned into the party of the bushits.

Too bad.

[DFLforever]

64. Exactly!

Talk about decline.

[MonteSano]

51. What a wicked, wicked man

[Jack Rabbit]

52. First of all, I doubt has been reading history

I doubt he can read.

However, if he has been reading history, there may be a good reasons.

He's history.

[JI7]

56. disgusting coward

[bluedogyellowdog]

57. I've been reading some historys these days

You know, historys. On the internets.

[MadHound]

58. Hey George, Carter was spot on correct

We did have an inordinate fear of communism. Hell, we knew as far back as 1956 that the USSR was nowhere near the threat that we made it out to be. But there was money to be made, defense contracts to fill, and we just kept on escalating that ol' arms races. The military industrial complex profited handsomely at the expense of the US taxpayer and US citizen. Eisenhower tried to warn us at the conclusion of his term in office, but we didn't pay attention. Carter tried to tell the truth, but he was laughed out of office in favor of a Cold Warrior who proceded to run up the national debt to record levels, building arms and munitions for a threat that wasn't there.

The MI complex was taken aback when communism collapsed all of the sudden, and saw that there was a threat that their gravy train would leave without them. They floundered around for ten years trying to find another "threat", and finally got one in terrorism. It's so perfect, faceless, nationless, completely unaccoutable. Yet it can strike in the homeland and kill less people than die on America's highways in six months, and thus the fear of terror causes the populace to OK any and all military spending, and thus the MI complex is once again happy as a hog in hay. And once again we're racking up record debt to fight an unneeded war and to build ever more weapons that we don't need and won't use.

Pathetic.

[tblue37]

60. Idiot had a degree in history from an Ivy League university,

yet he says he's been reading a lot of history lately as if he just discovered that there is such a thing.

Of course, I doubt that he is actually reading history. He is probably spending his time reading all those Shakespeares.

[elehhhhna]

61. He needs to brush up on Louis XVI and Czar Nicholas.

Those 2 biographies might scare him & keep him up past his bed time.

[LeftishBrit]

63. Evil bastard

Is he the reincarnation of Joe McCarthy, or what?

[Up2Late]

66. Ya know, I really don't think he knows what the word inordinate means!

As, I'm sure MOST "Red State" Republicans don't either. Truthfully, I just looked it up myself and here's what the Merriam-Webster Dictionary says:

inordinate

One entry found for inordinate.
Main Entry: in·or·di·nate
Pronunciation: in-'or-d&n-&t, -'ord-n&t
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English inordinat, from Latin inordinatus, from in- + ordinatus, past participle of ordinare to arrange -- more at ORDAIN
1 archaic : DISORDERLY, UNREGULATED

2 : exceeding reasonable limits : IMMODERATE
synonym see EXCESSIVE

- in·or·di·nate·ly adverb
- in·or·di·nate·ness noun

So maybe he's right, even though he doesn't seem to know it.
:banghead: :crazy:

[gulliver]

68. Failure. He's a failure.

[orleans]

69. reading a lot of history these days, eh? well read this:

FUCK YOU GEORGE!

[LeftishBrit]

70. Also, if he's that interested in history, he might remember that one of

the most crucial events of his country's history was the Americans' decision, 200-odd years ago, to revolt against the tyranny of Mad King George.

[HuffleClaw]

71. commies???

are they kidding?

[Lasher]

72. It was Republics who turned to the dark side, not Democrats

As proof, please consider these quotes by Dwight Eisenhower, our last decent Republic president:

"We cannot afford to reduce taxes, reduce income, until we have in sight a program of expenditure that shows that the factors of income and outgo will be balanced."

"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms in not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. This is not a way of life at all, in any true sense."

"All of us have heard this term 'preventative war' since the earliest days of Hitler. I recall that is about the first time I heard it. In this day and time... I don't believe there is such a thing; and, frankly, I wouldn't even listen to anyone seriously that came in and talked about such a thing."

"In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist."

"Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes you can do these things. Among them are H. L. Hunt (you possibly know his background), a few other Texas oil millionaires, and an occasional politician or business man from other areas. Their number is negligible and they are stupid."

http://blueworksbetter.com/EisenhowerFlamingLiberal

[PaDem]

73. Inordinate fear, eh?

I suspect that the ghosts of countless peasants, union members, clergy women and children etc. in Latin America could tell Bush all about our "inordinate fear of communism".