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CTLawGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 01:44 PM
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Why the CT-SEN race is not over...
July 20: CT-GOV, John DeStefano 52% - Dan Malloy 32%:
August 8 (two weeks later): DeStefano 51% - Malloy 49%:

two weeks are an ETERNITY, especially the last two weeks before the election.

let's not give up hope! let Joe be lulled into a false sense of security.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 01:46 PM
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1. I with you darboy!
Let's not give up - fight for these good Democrats. :applause:
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ihelpu2see Donating Member (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 07:50 PM
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12. I'm still very hopeful, I still think a good amount of Indies will vote
Lamont.... And I hope this Petty Cash stuff hits the NEWS BIG Monday (Joe so far has listed $378,000 in draws as only Petty Cash see link http://nedlamont.com/blog/1898/joe-liebermans-slush-fund#comment)

Plus all the $$ from Republicans in the Cheney/Rove circles going to Joe helps Ned!!!
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jerryster Donating Member (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 01:52 PM
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2. 2 weeks are not an eternity
Most election analysts believe -and I agree- that most elections are over 7 to 10 days before election day. So what is left is at most 9 days.

I was in disbelief that Lieberman was ahead in the polls. Now I understand that the reason is that a lot of repubs are going to vote for him. This further strengthens my belief that he will switch parties. He will realize he was elected with republican votes and will no longer have any allegiance to the dems.

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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 01:56 PM
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3. Exactly!
Edited on Sun Oct-22-06 02:01 PM by ShortnFiery
And IF "Holy Joe" does NOT switch parties, the DLC wants to still take care of their Corporate Masters. To accomplish the foregoing they must KEEP the Democratic Party decidedly to the right on the political spectrum. :(
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 01:59 PM
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4. I understood that the majority of Conn. voters are Dem...
I think the polls are bs. The union pulled their support from Joe and threw it to Lamont. The union is one of the reasons that Joe made the showing that he did in the primaries. Now they support Lamont. It 'aint over until it's over.B-)
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jerryster Donating Member (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 02:06 PM
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7. Wish I could agree with you about the polls
Unfortunately, the numbers are way past the margin of error.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 05:33 PM
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10. Q's numbers are past the margin...
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 07:30 PM
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11. Most in CT are registered as independent
Dem is next highest.

Lieberman is polling very well among Republicans. And getting loads of dough from them. But he's still got some Dems and some independents, too.

It could change, but right now it seems, unfortunately, that he may win.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 02:35 AM
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18. Looks like Joe has a "petty cash" issue...
Pretty sloppy for an incumbent senator...what was he thinking? Never mind.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 06:43 AM
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19. Yes, I'm finding that pretty interesting
That's a whole lot of petty cash. Wonder who his treasurer is this go-round?
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CTLawGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 10:34 PM
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17. What about Howard Dean in 2004 IA caucus?
Jon Tester was tied with Morrison in the final polls and he won big time.

That said we really need to concentrate on the ground game.
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The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 01:59 PM
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5. never trust Quinnipiac - especially not in October....
By election time, they may unveil the correct number to CYA, like they did in 2000 with Hillary.
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jerryster Donating Member (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 02:05 PM
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6. It's not just Quinnipiac
There are other polls showing the same.
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mhatrw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 11:59 AM
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23. Since both debates?
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 03:07 PM
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8. Polling is a business.
They get paid for "results". There is nothing objective about it. It is part of the Mighty Wurlitzer.
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wiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 05:20 PM
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9. The people of CT are still weighing the benefits of having a Republican
Senator named Lieberman, because like the sub base that was somehow miraculously saved, they want to see just how far down on the shaft that Joe is willing to go to get special goodies from the President and his very wealthy Republican friends. It's called Quid Pro Quo and Lieberman has never been above it. The fascinating thing is that the moderate Republicans in the Senate, who are a despised group in their own home states, are the ones fighting most fiercely for Lieberman. And as I mentioned previously, Lamont needs to conduct a very high profile pro-Israel campaign if he wants to win in the general election against Lieberman.
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Infinite Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 09:09 PM
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13. Um...
In August when the average voter isn't paying attention, 2 weeks can bring more change than later in the election. This late in the election, it demands a scandal or some earth-shaking revelation to close that large of a gap...or it'd take voters staying him on Lieberman's side which is unlikely to occur. So 2 weeks in the summer are not in the least comparable to 2 weeks at the end of October.

Anything can happen, yes, but it would take something drastic at this point.
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CTLawGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 10:08 PM
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14. Howard dean collapsed in the two weeks before the IA caucus
NT
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DFLforever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 10:21 PM
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15. I'd hate to see Ned's GOTV people get discouraged


A Joe Scandal would help. His nearly $400,00 of unitemized expenses could do it.
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CTLawGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 10:31 PM
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16. it would
the closer we get to election day, the more and more people pay attention, and the more and more polls will move if we act fast.
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DocSavage Donating Member (594 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 07:56 AM
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20. Lamont is Toast
and the Dems in Washington and in the DNC are going to be running to Joes house on Wednesday morning doing thier best "Kiss the Ring" routine and apologizing. The words will be somthing like, "Senator, you know that we always supported you, but it was business, just business"

The only hope is that Joe is not so PO'd at the rank and file dems in DC that he does not caucus with the Republicans.

IMO, to throw a guy out because he is out of step 3-4% of the time is silly. He has more support for what he has done for the voters than what Lamont garned with his anti-war stance. That is the way I see it.
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mhatrw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 11:58 AM
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22. Lieberman blows. He doesn't even know whether the Dems winning
would be a good thing.

He tanked in the debate and hopefully that will tell the tale.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 08:06 AM
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21. I'm so glad for this post!
I needed some hope from someone who actually lives in CT!


Thanks, darboy... I'll keep my hope alive.


TC
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