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ringmastery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 10:48 PM
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What does Dean do if he loses the nomination?
Is there a future for him in the democratic party? Does he run again in 2008 if the dems lose? Future senator one day if Jeffords or Leahy retire? Or does he just fade into oblivion, write a few books, and make speeches?
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arewethereyet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 10:50 PM
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1. He could try Congress I guess
but that would be sort of odd given his contempt for it.

I expect he goes back into healthcare in some manner.
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Clark Can WIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 12:45 AM
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25. Health care in this country MUST be fixed
Our new Democratic president should appoint him as head of a special commission or agency to reform health care in a way that makes sense.

He should also serve to continue to reform political campaign funding. It still has serious problems.
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Nicholas_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 01:04 AM
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26. Dean destroyed his chances for winning anything in Vermont
Like Congress. His covservatism drove almost half of Vermont Democrats into the Vermont Progressive Party, so now when a anyone runs for Governor or Lt Governor, the Progressives take 25 percent of the vote, the Dems around 33 percent and the Republicans come in with 41 or 42 percent and sweep the election with relative minorities.
The Progressives despise Dean and polls taken in 2002 shoed that Dean would not be re-elected as Governor if he ran again, which was why Dean repeatedly put off decision as to whether he would rub for Governor again or not all throughout 2001, and half of 2002.

The Republicans have thus routed the entire Vermont Legislature, and Vemrot sort of resmebles Washington , with Republicans contrlling everything but the Vermont Supreme Court.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 10:52 PM
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2. I hope he would get a cabinent seat
Maybe take over for tommy thompson (is that his name??)
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lastknowngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 10:53 PM
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3. No one has a future in the democratic party if it keeps on this
course. They will be relegated to third party status after November.
I suggest he and Clark start the Democratic branch of the Democratic party and screw the DLC/DNC cabala
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candy331 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 10:58 PM
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8. I agree with you lastknowngood, especially
since it is so obvious to none blind persons that they truly don't want change and I am beginning to believe as some already have that they don't want to win either but want a holdover for the 08 election. I will continue to say and wash my mouth after saying his name but Zell Miller may aptly be calling it right when he says the "Democratic Party A national Party No More".
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 10:58 PM
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11. Yeah. That worked well for Nader. nt
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 12:29 AM
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19. Nader is a hypocrite
And just because he was a failure at it, doesn't mean stronger and better men cannot succeed.

Count me in if it happens. I'm tired of this dog and pony show.

Whatever Dean does, and I still believe in him enough and I'm trying to have faith in the American people that they will nominate him, may he live long and prosper, in the fullness of contentment that those who strive for the greater good so richly deserve.
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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 10:54 PM
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4. Maybe he'll go back to his medical practice.
Who knows?


John
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mot78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 10:55 PM
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5. I don't know
He could do several things:

1. Go back to being a Doctor, which is unlikely because of his celebrity status.

2. Run for the Senate, which wouldn't suprise me. If Jeffords retires in 2006 and Dean's not our nominee, I would encourage current Dean supporters and Vermonters to draft him for the Senate race.

3. Do other work for the party, like found a think-tank. I'd love to see him become DNC chair, but he'd upstage whoever is President.
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stromboli Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 10:58 PM
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9. buckeyes
yeah, we know some conserative Ohio people aren't fond of Dean. They're afraid that new gay marriage ban will get repealed.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 10:59 PM
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12. Shame on you buckeye1
He is not a loser...Hyped up..maybe
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stromboli Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 10:55 PM
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7. ...
Dean doean't have the "fade away and be silent" personality. It's hard to say if he'd take a VP spot under Kerry...maybe with Edwards. If he doesn't get some wins soon, he probably won't get nearly the funding or support needed for a run in 2008 or 2012. I think he'd take a VP spot since it's his best shot at ruffling some feathers in washington.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 11:00 PM
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13. He thinks it's a bad idea for him to be asked to be VP
Can't have 2 New Englanders on the ticket.

Dean is too damn good for the cause to retire him after the nomination. I'd prefer: DNC chair or SEC HHS
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muchacho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 10:58 PM
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10. I'm really amazed...
how far and quickly the Doctor fell with no significant scandle around his neck.
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eileen_d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 11:05 PM
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14. I think he should continue to take on the Democratic establishment
DNC chair has been suggested by several people, and I think a Dean run for that would be ideal.

It would crack me up if he ran for Senator, given all of his "Washington insider" rhetoric.
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dansolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 11:33 AM
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30. Why do you find this amusing?
Isn't the President the ultimate Washington insider? The reason he would run for the Senate would be the same reason he ran for President. He was disappointed with the direction the country was being led by both the Republicans and Democrats. At least as a legislator he could try and influence the way that his party was approaching things.
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Mad Cow Doc Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 11:32 PM
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15. Third party or VP
He could be a third party or independent but I do not know if there is time to get on the ballot in all 50 states. Or he could possibly be a VP choice. If he threatens to take his support to a third party he could demand a VP slot.
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stromboli Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 12:09 AM
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17. vp
If Kerry ends up getting the nomination, he'd never take Dean as VP. Almost any of the others would though. Fortunately, despite the media blitz, there's still a long way to go.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 12:30 AM
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21. Welcome to DU!
:hi:

Mad Cow Doc? LOL!
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 01:14 AM
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27. The Republicans would love that 3rd party idea. 4 more years of Chimpy n/t
Edited on Sun Feb-08-04 01:15 AM by NNN0LHI
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 10:45 AM
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29. Hi Mad Cow Doc!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 11:35 AM
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31. If Dean ran third party and got DK or some other progressives on board
and Kerry was running against Bush, I'd be tempted to vote Dean.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 11:33 PM
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16. Support the nominee
WWHD?

What Would Howard Do?

Howard would support the nominee.

Period.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 12:44 AM
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24. Fade into obscurity...
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TheBigDemo Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 01:38 AM
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28. Same thing that happened to McGovern and Dukakis
Just fades into former somebodies. Dean is done with elective politics, he can never win anything again. But he will be well respected.

James K.
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markus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 12:04 PM
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32. Dean supporters need to be electing themselves to state conventions
especially in primary and staw poll states, where turning out on election day doesn't get you a voice in the direction of the party.

We need to elect reform candidates to the DNC and start to toss the money changes out of the temple.

I would rather see Dean as DNC chair than in a cabinet post.
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