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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 01:18 PM
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Has anyone here got anymore info. of the Camp Falcon explosions
that happened about a couple of weeks ago??I am very curious as to what happened, and why is was wiped off our news cycle...what is it they don't want us to know...
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 01:20 PM
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1. you first. eom
:)
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 01:20 PM
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2. They don't want us to know
it was an unmitigated disaster. If it had been anything that they could have spun at all, we would have heard something by now.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 01:22 PM
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3. An ammo dump went boom.
If you want to find out that it killed 1000 US service members because of the explosion of a tactical nuke, there are plenty of websites that'd love to have your hits. And the ad revenue that goes along with it.
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 01:27 PM
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5. I don't want to find that l000's of service members are dead..but
I do think that an explosion like that had to take some lives...did you see it on tv??I did and no way could there not be casualties in and around the area....
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 01:39 PM
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8. It was an ammo dump.
Hence, it was located in an area where nobody would be hurt if it went boom. And you can be sure that the moment it started getting shelled, anybody who happened to be in the vicinity would've run like hell.
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 01:23 PM
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4. Could legitmately be a non-story. Just a bunch of ammo blowing
up spectacularly = more $$$ for the war machine (dem bombs is expensive!)

Maybe there really weren't any injuries, or just moderate ones. Who knows? We'll never learn a thing from our crooked, crummy media
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 01:38 PM
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7. That Is Most Likely The Case, Ma'am
Storage of ammunition is arranged with potential disaster in mind, and managed in ways calculated to minimize that potential. It is stored at a good distance from places where personnel are congregated, and various barriers against blast effect constructed around it. The show was indeed spectacular, but probably did not result in any fatalities.
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 01:38 PM
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6. rumors: hundreds of dead. But seriously: ammo dumps are guarded
rather heavily, or should be. A blast like that must have killed some people. They may be holding off the info until after Nov 7.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 01:43 PM
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9. Rumors my ass.
This is intentionally crafted bullshit, spread by several websites in order to drive traffic to their advertisers.

Yes, ammo dumps are guarded - in a way that ensures that if it goes boom, you don't kill the guards. This wikipedia page gives a very short and succint description of the various precautions that are taken when dealing with ammo dumps:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ammunition_dump
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 02:01 PM
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11. A forward ammo dump
is set up for quick access by trucks, tanks, etc for quick loading for action. Most everything is more open than in a major regular storage facility-this also makes it more vulnerable to attack. I don't think it was thousands of casualties but possibly an easy 100 or more. Something that cooked off for more than 13 hours with many separate explosions is definitely not a MINOR incident.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 02:05 PM
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13. Yes, I suppose...
...that the Army is faking all communications from the dead back to their families in the US. Tricky they are, eh?
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 03:51 PM
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14. Why has it just dropped off the news...they spent a couple of hours
on this story, so why not have follow-ups...
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 04:05 PM
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15. How many American soldiers were killed in Baghdad last week?
And how much do you hear about those people this week? What, exactly, are you looking for them to report?
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 02:04 PM
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12. you don't have to be standing on top of an ammo dump to guard it
Edited on Wed Oct-25-06 02:05 PM by onenote
Typically, such facilities are situated in such a way as to make it very hard for anyone who is not authorized to be in the area to get anywhere close to them -- and thus there is no need to have a large number of guards in close proximity to them. And indeed, the 'hit' on Camp Falcon didn't come from someone physical penetrating the secured area around the ammo dump, it came from mortars being lobbed into the camp. How would guards standing around the dump protect against that?

also: keep in mind that the attack came at nearly 11 pm.
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Joe for Clark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 01:57 PM
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10. There were injuries. No one was killed.
The satellite connections were blown up so the kids really couldn't call home or email for some days. The army notified us about 36 hours later with this info.

They say it was caused by a hit from an 82mm mortar shell.

I have many questions, myself, about this. Like - was the base laid out so poorly that one mortar could do all that damage?? How stretched out are our guys really?? Sure appears that deployment was done with great haiste. Things like that.

The kids will have videos of this. In fact I know they do.

Joe



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