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BobcatJH Donating Member (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 10:35 AM
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Shut up and accept reality
Listen, my Republican friends, when confronted with commercials like the ones featuring Michael J. Fox, or the prospect of seeing flag-draped coffins returning from Iraq, or the photos from Abu Ghraib, or sobering words from the September 11 widows or Cindy Sheehan, don't complain to us that it's not fair, that somehow you can't comment because it makes you look bad. In fact, shut your mouths, because life isn't fair. And if you're not ready to confront the real-world realities your misguided policies have produced, if they happen to offend your delicate sensibilities, then too bad.

Do you think those who could benefit from stem cell research think it fair that you're the only ones standing between them and the help they need? Do you think those who've given their lives in Iraq, could they comment today, would think it fair that you've been able to send them off to war without yourselves taking up arms? Of course not. Your actions have consequences. Your votes have tragic side effects. If you can't handle those side effects, then your solution isn't to complain to us that we're exploiting situations and individuals against which you can't respond. Your solution is to vote for candidates whose policies won't have such disastrous eventualities.

So the next time you see an ad featuring Fox on television, sit there and watch it. Sit there and ask yourself whether you're comfortable with the fact that your vote for Republicans is keeping Fox and millions of others like him from possibly life-saving assistance. Sit there and resign yourself to the fact that casting a ballot isn't the end of the process, it's only the beginning. Sit there and listen to a message that you may not want to hear, but instead need to hear. Sooner or later, whether you like it or not, your decisions at the polling place may come back to bite you, so in other words, sit there, shut up and accept reality.
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badgerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 10:38 AM
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1. AAAAY-MEN!!
:applause: :yourock: :patriot:
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BobcatJH Donating Member (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 10:42 AM
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2. Thank you!
Thank you, thank you. It needs to be said, over and over.
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badgerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 11:13 AM
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3. Yer right. Here's a kick.
This board moves awfully fast in the daytime.


:kick:
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BobcatJH Donating Member (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 11:15 AM
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5. No doubt
Faster than a Republican lie on Hardball ...
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PurpleChez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 03:57 PM
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8. I second that emotion!
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 11:14 AM
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4. What's also curious to me
Edited on Thu Oct-26-06 11:14 AM by gratuitous
Is that I'm constantly derided by our Republican friends as being "naive" or a "starry-eyed idealist" when I say things like "war is not the answer" or "this isn't going to work out the way you think it will." Just because I don't think indiscriminate bombing is the best way to work on a complex, highly nuanced problem, I get all kinds of static in person and from the popular media about being "unrealistic."

Yet, when the reality appears, when the ugly consequences (easily foreseen and warned of) come around, those steely-eyed realists want to bury their heads in the sand and pretend that the horrific outcomes staring them in the face had nothing to do with their policies and practices. Wow, real Parkinson's sufferers pleading for funding of medical research! Flag-draped coffins coming through Dover by the planeload! Half a trillion dollars squandered! Don't talk about that, because it makes the Republicans and their murderous programs look bad.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 11:16 AM
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6. How does one report the facts in an unbiased way when the facts themselves
Edited on Thu Oct-26-06 11:17 AM by BlueEyedSon
are biased?

Jon Stewart: I'm sorry, Rob, did you say the facts are biased?

Corddry: That's right Jon. From the names of our fallen soldiers to the gradual withdrawal of our allies to the growing insurgency, it's become all too clear that facts in Iraq have an anti-Bush agenda.

:)
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Danascot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 08:30 PM
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15. Facts in general are anti-Bush
big time.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 08:49 PM
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16. Facts and the TRUTH support LIBERALS policies and viewpoints.
That's why we're LIBERALS...

Conservativism trys to make the world fit into their prejudiced view of the world - it takes a lot of energy to support a LIE...
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RedEarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 01:22 PM
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7. KR
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CGrantt57 Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 04:08 PM
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9. It has always boggled my mind...
that Republicans are the first ones to get down in the mud and start slinging the most ferocious, vile, hateful shit in the history of American politics.

However, the minute you come back at them with any kind of attack, they all roll over and start crying, whining, and mewling about how "unfair" you are.

Jeebus, what a bunch of pussies.

:eyes:
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tlsmith1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 09:18 PM
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18. If We Do Get Congress Back...
...& I have to start listening to Republicans crying because they lost, I am not going to be sympathetic. I mean, it's not like they have ever been nice to us. If we *do* get a congressional majority again, it's payback time. Let's see how the conservatives feel when the shoe is on the other foot. I have been waiting a long time for this.
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civildisoBDence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 04:14 PM
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10. I haven't heard the first word criticizing Nancy Reagan for her stance
on stem cell research.

That would be sacrilege to most Republicans.

While I respect Mrs. Reagan for the way she stood by her husband, I can't help but be reminded of the title of the book she published after spending eight years in the bully pulpit of being First Lady: "My Turn."

Maybe Republicans are just too damned self centered to even have a clue about the rest of humankind...

Newsprism
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A Simple Game Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 04:29 PM
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11. Excellent! n/t
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rhiannon55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 04:44 PM
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12. "Reality has a well-known liberal bias"
according to the great Stephen Colbert.

Deal with the consequences of your actions and stop whining, repukes. And for godssake, stand up straight! Jeez! Poor babies. :nopity:
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not_a_robot Donating Member (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 05:56 PM
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13. In every political discussion in which i've ever participated
The first person to throw a fit and say they hate talking about politics and politics shouldn't be in normal conversation, is always a republican. Lets face it, it's the party of being 'in the winning team'. There are two common societal structures, loyalism and ethics/law. The fact is the republican structure is all loyalism, the democratic is ethics and law. You can't ask a loyalist to explain their actions, they are loyal followers and their motivations are such. They will however recognize that you act by ethics and law, and invoke as much to control and silence you. I say that's the way we continue, living in such a way, and lets even treat them the way we expect to be treated, but never stop telling them when they are doing something wrong, or justify that feedback with vengence or relative morality. Maybe someday more of them will adopt ethics and use that mind they were born with. I prefer that over an eternal enemy.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 06:40 PM
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14. Here's a post I wish I could recommend twice.
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BobcatJH Donating Member (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 10:54 PM
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21. Just you wait for the next one ...
... about Matt Lauer
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liberalla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 01:22 AM
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24. I'll be watching for that one!
Matt Lauer is so ineffectual. I never understood why he was popular or what people saw in him.
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 09:13 PM
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17. When have they play'd fair????
Republicans loose any claim to calling No Fair to stuff the Democrats do. Thier record speaks for itself. They have play'd beyond the bounds. With thier record they'd be better off just shutting up.
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 09:38 PM
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19. 348 Post in one year....
Where have you been hiding. Waiting on the next one to K/R

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Balderdash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 10:06 PM
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20. Bravo
K&R

:applause:
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SheWhoMustBeObeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 11:16 PM
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22. Just tell 'em what they told us two years ago
Get over it.

I heard that over and over after '04. Angry and disheartened, I would hear that phrase and think how I would make them eat their words after Republican policy affected their wages, impacted their health care, drained their savings, and altered the futures of their children. Because I knew the day would come.

Not much satisfaction in saying it. But some, just the same.








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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 12:41 AM
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23. I do not ask Republicans to shut up
Edited on Fri Oct-27-06 12:42 AM by hfojvt
However, their whole complaint is ridiculous. They say "Democrats use people we can't attack to spread their messages" (and then they attack them anyway).

My question is - why is attacking the messenger the only way you know how to respond? Michael J. Fox supports Democrats who support stem cell research. Embryonic stem cell research. Supposedly Republicans like Jim Talent, have some sort of principled opposition to ESCR. Why can't you answer with those principles?

I would say to Republican, not that you should shut up, but that if personal attack is the only response that you have to an argument that shows you don't have truth and logic on your side, much less character or class. Talent, if he had any class, would also be demanding that Rush Limbaugh apologize and/or shut up. People like Limbaugh, Coulter, Hannity and O'Reilly do need to shut up, because they are hate-mongers poisoning the public discourse.
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LionInWinter Donating Member (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 06:50 AM
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25. Michael J. Fox supports Republicans who support stem cell research.
Edited on Fri Oct-27-06 06:51 AM by LionInWinter
He did a very similar ad for Specter during the last election cycle, but I didn't hear any of the whining right complaining then.
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