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BobcatJH Donating Member (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 09:02 AM
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Matt Lauer should be ashamed of himself
I've been of two minds on my fellow Ohio University alumnus and "Today" host Matt Lauer. I've called him a hack. I've patted him on the back. But whatever faith in and respect for Lauer I've felt recently went out the door when I read his statements surrounding Rush Limbaugh's shameful comments about Michael J. Fox's appearance in recent campaign commercials. Limbaugh, you'll remember, accused Fox of "exaggerating the effects of the disease", calling it "purely an act". In other words, faking it to score political points. Those comments, in a civilized society, would leave Limbaugh not only jobless, but also at the center of a mountain of bipartisan scorn. But we're not living in that society. We're living in a society under Republican control, a society in which Fox, not Limbaugh's reprehensible statements, become the center of the story. A society in which people like Lauer can say things like: "Didn't Rush Limbaugh just say what a lot of people were privately thinking?"

Excuse me? So for being an ill-informed, insulting, prejudiced asshole, Limbaugh isn't instantly universally regarded as an ill-informed, insulting, prejudiced asshole, but instead as the voice of the silent majority? Apparently so, at least in Lauer's world, where making horrendously inappropriate statements that even the biggest assholes are scared to utter in public christens Limbaugh some sort of latter-day Thomas Paine. And that's just what people like Limbaugh and Lauer's "a lot of people" are: Assholes. You know, I've tried to refrain from the most inflammatory invective for some time, but I just can't let this stand, and neither can you. These are low people we're dealing with, folks. Lower than low. Lower than whale shit, in fact. People who call an opponents' staffer the equivalent of "nigger". People who play on people's prejudices to win elected office. People who cover for a child predator in order to maintain their majority. People who blame the pages, on the heels of their blaming the victims of Hurricane Katrina. And now people who accuse those suffering with terrible diseases of faking it. If those people aren't assholes, I don't know who is.

What's almost as bad as the fact that Limbaugh said what he said is that far too many people - quite a bit who should know better - are looking the other way, or worse. People who, instead of denouncing such offensive behavior, reward it. People who keep giving publicity to a woman who called Muslims "ragheads" and suggested someone poison a sitting Supreme Court justice. People who don't forever dismiss faith-based demagogues who call for political assassinations. People who hand prime-time talk shows to fact-free, feckless morons who call the victims of Katrina "scumbags". And, more importantly, people who vote into office a party whose platform rests solely on fear, gutter politics and divisiveness. What's more, people who, once that party takes office, look the other way while the administration declares unjust war, the destruction of the Constitution and torture standard operating procedure.

So what used to get you branded an extremist, laughed out of the room or punched in the face now gets you patted on the back, placed in the spotlight and rewarded for each increasingly shocking statement. Chalk it up to a culture of growing indifference toward matters that at one time would have ground our society to a halt. In other words, a society that shrugs its shoulders as disaster slowly, but surely, approaches. So while Lauer's question is, in itself, stomach-turning, the fact that the people who do think as he suggests are holding sway is even worse. But back to Lauer. Let's not let him slide for such an offensive statement. Tell me, Matt, who privately thinks that? Do you feel that way? Did it make you feel good to see a fine, upstanding American like Limbaugh put that Hollywood liberal in his place? Did it give you pleasure to see someone whose career was built on a mountain of lies and an even bigger mountain of slander purposely impersonate the mannerisms of a man suffering from Parkinson's Disease? Because people who do privately think like that, who do say those things in public, aren't people who should be considered a part of civilized society, let alone championed as the voice of the nation. They are, at worst, evil and, at best, assholes.

Is that how you want to be remembered, Matt? As the heartless individual who not only suggested that Limbaugh's obscenities were, in some way, the conventional wisdom, but also who subsequently asserted that people like Fox who insert themselves "in the fray" had to expect to be "taken to account"? Taken to account? Why aren't you taking Limbaugh to account, Matt, instead of the man using his condition to work to better the lives of millions of others? I hope for your sake, Matt, that you never find yourself in Fox's shoes. Both because you could never be half the man he is and because no one should have to suffer the ridicule of people like Limbaugh and the questioning of people like you. When I saw you take on the president, asking him truly tough questions, I began to think better of you. Shame on me. I should have realized that, only a short time later, you would again remind me why the opinions of fluff journalists like yourself should be taken about as seriously as those of the Limbaughs of the world. It embarrasses me that you're one of the most public faces of our alma mater. But it embarrasses me more that you, too, are treating a very real issue as though it were a game. You should be ashamed of yourself.
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 09:07 AM
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1. lauer is a himbo. he is just there to blink and smile and read.
whatever he says is what someone higher up put in front of him to say.
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BobcatJH Donating Member (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 09:19 AM
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5. Like Ron Burgundy
I suspect you're right.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 04:55 PM
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29. I still think Burgundy got laid more that Matty....
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 09:55 AM
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9. Love the term, Himbo....
but IMHO, Matt is nothing to look at. He reminds me of scrawny, starving little bird. He needs to grow some hair.

Great OP...from another Bobcat alum.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 05:14 PM
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33. Call 212-664-4444
This is the most disgusting thing I've ever heard. I got through rather easily and it shouldn't have been easy at all. If we don't start shutting down switchboards with our outrage, they're never going to change.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 09:07 AM
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2. Well, whale shit floats, but...
Otherwise I agree completely. Lauer hasn't been an actual journalist in decades, if ever he was. For me, the last straw in a long line of last straws for him was his recent cushy, softly-lit interview with statutory rapist Debra LaFave, which aired immediately following an installment of NBC's creepily voyeuristic "To Catch A Predator" series.

But for my money, Limbaugh is pretty much an expert on pharmaceuticals and "faking it." I mean, he's been faking credibility for many years, so if that doesn't make him an authority, I don't know what would do it. Of course, he's still wrong, and he's still an asshole.

Nice post--recommended!
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BobcatJH Donating Member (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 09:10 AM
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4. Special whale shit, then
The kind that doesn't float. :-)
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fuzzyball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 10:15 AM
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12. That explains why Limballs immediately knew MJF was faking since
Limballs has been faking for years his abuse of Oxycontin.
It takes a thief to know another.
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geardaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 10:44 AM
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60. If it floats, whales must be getting a lot of fiber.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 11:08 AM
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61. I always thought fat floated and fiber sinks,
maybe we should David Letterman to test this on his "will it sink or float skit"?

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geardaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 02:24 PM
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68. I could be wrong.
But that is a great idea for the Letterman show. ;)
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justmakingsense3 Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 12:24 PM
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77. I don't really think that lauer was that far off??
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 09:08 AM
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3. I never could stomach Matt
I think when he shaved his head it took what was left of his already burned out brain with it. He's an ugly pathetic rightwingnutjob. I NEVER listen to him or any of the rest of the rightwingnutjobs.So many channels devoted to the ratwing,it keeps me busy with my remote changing them.Constantly. I wish this nightmare would end.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 09:57 AM
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10. If you get Dish TV, you will get
2 channels that you'll love: Free Speech TV channel and Link TV channel....commercial free and they speak lots and lots of Truth! Democracy Now! with Amy Goodman airs on those channels.
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tlsmith1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 06:01 PM
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41. I Think BBC World...
...is supposed to be coming to the US. I keep seeing ads for it on my digital cable. I think it's a 24-hour news channel. If my cable company gets it, forget all the other TV news outlets. BBC World will be all I watch.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 09:37 AM
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6. I hope his mother told him that was shameful of him.
That annual travel excursion that he does should be renamed as "Where in the World is Matt's head?"
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Human Torch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 09:43 AM
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7. Matt is Sean Hannity in a Mr. Rogers mask.
whore (hawr)

n (plural whores)
1. an offensive term for a prostitute
2. an offensive term for somebody regarded as being sexually indiscriminate
3. an offensive term for somebody who is regarded as willingly setting aside principles or personal integrity in order to obtain something, usually for selfish motives (insult)
4. Matt Lauer

vi (past whored, past participle whored, present participle whor·ing, 3rd person present singular whores)
1. an offensive term meaning to work as a prostitute
2. an offensive term meaning to be a regular customer of prostitutes

(Old English hōre . Ultimately from an Indo-European base meaning “to desire” that is also the ancestor of English cherish, caress, and Kama Sutra.)
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BobcatJH Donating Member (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 01:32 PM
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14. Spooky
Maybe worst Halloween costume ever?
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RedEarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 09:55 AM
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8. Excellent post.....
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 10:02 AM
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11. Yes Matt, a lot of people may have been thinking it . . .
But that doesn't mean it's something that should be shared. A lot of people think blacks are stupid, shiftless and lazy, or that Latinos smell funny, or that women's natural function and the limit of their capacity as human beings should be reduced to being barefoot and pregnant. Should they be given national platforms and your endorsement? If so, then you don't belong on the air. If not, why not?
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BobcatJH Donating Member (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 11:00 AM
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13. Exactly
Just because a lot of idiots think something, it doesn't mean those idiots should get a platform for their idiocy.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 11:38 AM
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64. Unfortunately, idiots have been
getting a lot of platform space for the past six years and are still coming out of the woodwork in droves.
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Infinite Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 01:52 PM
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15. I see it as journalism...
That wasn't necessarily his own opinion. Journalists are supposed to play devil's advocate.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 02:27 PM
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16. "Devil's" advocate or advocate for the truth--just because RW Neo-Nazi's have a
position doesn't mean it merits a Nationally Televised host justifying that position b/c "some" people think it.
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Infinite Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 01:25 AM
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75. Asking a question isn't justifying it... n/t
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 05:15 PM
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35. Limbaugh was saying what everyone was thinking????
How in the fucking hell can you wildly interpret that as journalism???
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codjh9 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 05:40 PM
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38. And here's another one on Limbaugh & his brain-dead listeners
Why would anyone swallow all the lies, crap, etc. that Limbaugh says? What real qualifications, experience, or special wisdom or knowledge does he have? He's JUST A GUY WITH A MICROPHONE ON THE RADIO, but for some reason, they'll believe anything he says... witness the stickers or t-shirts (?) that say 'RUSH SAID IT, I BELIEVE IT. DITTO.' Scary shit.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 11:40 AM
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65. And you should have seen their reaction
to the "Flush Rush" bumper sticker my mom had on her car several years ago! You would have thought their whole world was ending. She'd constantly get notes on the car and someone even scrawled "NO WAY" across the front of the sticker once. It'd be laughably pathetic if it weren't so damned frightening.
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civildisoBDence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 06:26 PM
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45. That was journalism
like Britney Spears' music is art.

In other words, just plain bad.

Newsprism
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 06:51 AM
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58. We knew you would... You need to learn the definition of the word.
Instead of spewing repuke talking points...

"Enjoy" your stay here - even tho it may be brief...
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 02:59 PM
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17. Never liked Lauer OR Cutie Couric, they both suck.
And I am ashamed that Felix Allen went to MY alma mater, UVA.
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19jet54 Donating Member (737 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 03:00 PM
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18. Rush & Matt
I am not defending either, but both are in the business of "controversy" for money, aka News? Kind of like a disturbed child, any attention IS attention. Whores for money says it all!
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Sleepless In NY Donating Member (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 03:04 PM
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20. Was Lauer jealous that Katie got the MJF interview & he didn't?
Just wondering is it because Couric & CBS got it & NBC and Lauer didn't? I can't find any reason or excuse for Lauer's disgraceful comments.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 11:42 AM
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66. True enough, just
like Ann the Man Coulter, as well. They all belong in a locked-down mental institution.
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Zavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 03:02 PM
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19. I agree with most of what you write, I take issue only with
your assertion that El Drugbo's comments should leave him jobless. Being an insensitive extremist asshole is a bad thing, but not against the law.

Three points, none of which are directed specifically at the original poster:

1.) If everyone who stated an unpopular opinion to one side or another got fired, we wouldn't have anyone left in radio, on TV or writing in newspapers.

2.) I'm sorry, but when I hear calls for firings over petty (albeit just as tasteless as you say) crap like this, my eyes just roll. I'd really like to see us be the party of a thicker skin. If we preach tolerance, we have to tolerate views other than ours, even if they're stupid.

3.) People, we WANT assholes like Limbaugh on the air! If he were to get fired for this there would be a bit of coverage and that's that, but if he keeps spewing hate, intolerance and indifference, that's good for us. Let the man speak! His followers won't see reason anyway, but sensible swing votes who hear shit like this are going to come over to our side - so what's more important, having him disgust people away from Repugs or having him fired out of vengeance or anger and resting comfortably with his millions?
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 06:56 AM
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59. He's polluted the airwaves and ruined the national discourse.
Limpballs is the WORST thing to happen to radio - EVER - and should be justly BANNED for spewing the hatred and lies that he has.

The world is WORSE place for him having been born. No brainer there.

His platform of hate and lies should be taken away...

Having him on the air makes this world a more dangerous place.

You couldn't be more wrong.

Put them back to wispering in back alleys and under thier rocks where they belong.

The world gave Hitler a "voice" and "exposure" too - that didn't go too well now, did it?
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Blutodog Donating Member (291 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 03:10 PM
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21. Great post!!
Matt Lauer is a Bu$h asskisser and media whore no doubt about it. Add Tweety "bird" Matthews to that long list as well. After laughing about what Limpdick said about Micael Fox he went on to slap his wrsit and say how much he LIKED Rush. All this said with a Big smirk on his face. Matthews has de-evolved into a Repig slug and really needs to have his sorry ass kicked.
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BobcatJH Donating Member (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 03:22 PM
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24. Thanks!
Much appreciated!
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GoXavier Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 03:10 PM
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22. I think Lauer finished a couple...
of credit hours short of graduating. I don't think he actually holds an undergraduate degree from OU. No excuse for his hack job though.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 05:10 PM
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31. Hi GoXavier!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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geiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 03:10 PM
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23. I really dont give a damn about what Matt Lauer thinks
And I thought it was a lot more revolting when one of the nubile interviewers from that same morning show (I dont remember which idiot mouthpiece for The Administration it was), but she asked former President Bush if he believed the things "some people were saying," that he was being "used" by former President Clinton for political reasons (in the Katrina and tsunami relief efforts).

Just a minute, but the poor excuse we have for a President now asked Clinton and his dad to join forces, if I remember correctly, and it was his puny ass that got pulled (temporarily) out of the fire. Neither one of the Bushes seem to possess any administrative acunem (probably coz they are totally disconnected from real life and real people, but that's another subject)

I meant to send my protest about this vile question to NBC and never got around to it, but this thing Lauer did is a lot less reprehensible than the question implying Clinton is using the Bushes rather than the other way around.

Grow up, everyone. And what about after the elections, when the Republicans claim WE stole the landslide?!! So fucking what about what midget brain Matt Lauer says?

What is our agenda, what are we going to do. I saw a great post on here the other day about what Pelosi was going to do in her first hundred hours, and respondents began to immediately participate in a circle jerk about everything she left off the list. Yeah, I want the new bankruptcy laws overturned, too, and that could take on a great symbolic significance, too, but I'm not going to criticize her for planning TO DO SOMETHING, esp. when noone else seems to be talking about it.

AGain, Grow up, my fellow Dems. If we dont-GROW UP--this time, we are fucking doomed.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 05:18 PM
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36. That's how they win
Jesus. When you have influential people who are supposed to be non-biased telling America that 'everybody' was thinking that Michael J. Fox was faking his tremors - why in the hell do you THINK Democrats have such a hard time getting a truthful message out.

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geiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 07:32 PM
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50. Need to develop their own fucking brains, that's why
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BlueJac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 03:24 PM
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25. Lauer is like Katie.....
Not worthy of anyones time.


I ripped into the Today Show yesterday about Matt, calling him shameless.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 03:39 PM
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26. Yeah, right
If he had any shame he would have hari-kari'd years ago.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 04:00 PM
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27. What surprises me about all the comments about what
Edited on Fri Oct-27-06 04:02 PM by tblue37
Limbaugh said is that he did so much worse than just say those things. He physically mocked MJF's jerking and spasming, the way a really badly raised 8-year-old might on the playground. There is video of Limbaugh doing it. Yet hardly anyone one comments about that (though at least the OP does). I think that video should be featured in Dem ads from now on.
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codjh9 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 04:54 PM
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28. Couldn't agree more - we've got a BIG asshole surplus in the US
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 05:11 PM
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32. Hi codjh9!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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codjh9 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 05:33 PM
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37. Thanks newyawker99
I'm a non-typical native Texan. :^)
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codjh9 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 04:59 PM
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30. Just for another example (of the a-hole problem)
Reminds me of Bob Costas, subbing for Larry King, interviewing Vanessa Redgrave in 2005. He kept trying to attack her positions on things, past protests, etc., *simply because they were liberal ideas*, not because there was anything 'wrong' with them; or maybe I should say that he never tried to argue WHY whatever she did was 'wrong', but he kept attacking nonetheless. What an asshole.
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 05:14 PM
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34. I have lost SO MUCH respect for NBC recently
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tlsmith1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 05:58 PM
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39. I Don't Know What Lauer's Problem Is
I saw that segment myself, & all I could do is shake my head & sigh. I really wonder if he is on the Bush admin's payroll, because he always says outrageous things that seem designed to appeal to conservatives. What a reprehensible human being Lauer is.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 05:59 PM
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40. Call and complain
The number is up above.
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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 06:03 PM
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42. Privately, many people want to shoot Matt Lauer, too.
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 06:05 PM
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43. Lauer and Limbaugh are buddies - took golf trip together
I remember how shocked I was when I read about it a couple of years ago. Don't kid yourselves about where Matt Lauer's loyalties lie.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 06:09 PM
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44. Great, so that means little matty
Edited on Fri Oct-27-06 06:10 PM by zidzi
lauer has to pile on the kid with Parkinson's?

These two reptiles should consider themselves damn lucky they don't have it! Fuckers.
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GusConsultore Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 06:49 PM
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46. bush and the press
The press and Bush are even cozier than we suspected. A transcript was released of a meeting between Bush and journalists. The journalists openly recommend ways to Bush to make the war in Iraq appear more successful leading up to the elections. They speak cynically about civilian casualties, Bush dismisses (or doesn't know) facts which are inconvenient to him. Very interesting. But it's very hard to compete with a party so supported by the press

http://www.miserywatch.com/2006/10/transcript_rele.html
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IWantAChange Donating Member (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 06:58 PM
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47. How do we contact the Mattster??
I for one would like to write or call him and challenge both his manhood and his supposed intellect.
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mentalsolstice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 07:03 PM
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48. From One Who Has A Disability
Unfortunately, disabled persons face doubt every day from others, particularly if the disability doesn't render them bed-ridden. It's either "you're faking or exaggerating", or it's questioning our capabilities, aka "can you really do the job"? I have mild cerebral palsy...I can walk, drive, swim, bike, etc. without assistance. I'm attractive (if I do say so myself), and married. However, at 45 years old, I feel like I'm 90, my joints are so worn out. I really have to plan my activities.

Earlier in my life I was ambitious and energetic. I obtained a law degree, and two semesters later a master's degree with no carryover of credits. However, I've been to hearings and settlement conferences where I've had people (usually from the opposing side) actually come up to me and pat me on the head like I was a small child (I was a disability rights attorney, working for the state P&A). On the other hand, fifteen years later, I'm now on SSDI, and while I still ambulate "decently", I'm in incredible pain every day. However, I've had people question whether I'm "cheating" the system, or simply taking the easy way out. Even so-called friends have "winked" at me and suggest "oh you have it easy now"...or "don't you feel bad about living off the government dole?"

This is where disabled America is...when we want to do something, our capabilities are doubted, and when we need help, the conservatives get downright belligerent.

No help is needed from Rush Limbaugh or Matt Lauer. By the way, I wonder how Meredith Vieira feels about Matt's comments...her husband has MS.
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pookieblue Donating Member (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 12:41 AM
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57. I hear you
I have MS and though I am still working, it's hard.

I get the looks and comments from people around me.

the "my friend cindy has MS and she is doing so well, she works 50hrs a week...." (in the tone, that lets you know that they think you are faking it or something).
or the "my uncle al has ms and he is on his death bed."

This whole thing with Rush and Matt has many people upset.

one of my coworkers has a grandfather with PD and he was so upset about Rush's comments.

We deal with it every day. But the fact that the "liberal" media has basically gave the okay to question and make fun those us of with disablities, by not coming out and calling Rush the jackass he is for his comments, makes it so much worse.



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bling bling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 07:19 PM
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49. I'm printing this. Have you sent it to Matt Lauer?
If not, I'll do it myself.

Thank you for this post. I am feeling very frustrated right now at this and about a couple of other articles I just read about the cheap shit the thugs are trying to pull to win in November. I'm too frustrated to even find words.

Here's one example out of a dozen from one of the articles I read and printed out:

"In New York, the NRCC ran an ad accusing Democratic House candidate Michael A. Arcuri, a district attorney, of using taxpayer dollars for phone sex. "Hi, sexy," a dancing woman purrs. "You've reached the live, one-on-one fantasy line." It turns out that one of Arcuri's aides had tried to call the state Division of Criminal Justice, which had a number that was almost identical to that of a porn line. The misdial cost taxpayers $1.25."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/26/AR2006102601811_pf.html

The Republicans make me sick. And that whole Matt Lauer thing is repulsive. Your article says it all.

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lwcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 07:46 PM
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51. If anyone can watch this and have it *not* break your heart...
... that person isn't human: http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/10/26/michael-j-fox-makes-a-fool-out-of-limbaugh/

A decent guy trying his best to help out his fellow man, attacked by a vicious disease and a vicious excuse for a human being.

There's a fairly old joke:

Q. What's the difference between Rush Limbaugh and and the Hindenburg?

A. One is a flaming Nazi gasbag, and the other is a dirigible.

A perhaps more accurate answer is: the humanity.

___

Hey, the liberal light is always on at the Vast Left-Wing Conspiracy. Please stop by and say "hi!"
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 08:24 PM
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52. I see what you meant.
You told me to wait for this post when I said I wished I could recommend your last one twice. This one I'd recommend 5 times...at least.

This is one of the most maddening things about our contemporary society. Outrageous has become standard and warrants no reaction when uttered by the "right" people.
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bushwhacked2008 Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 08:29 PM
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53. I have matt, but what exactly is it he said that was so bad?
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bling bling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 09:34 PM
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55. Specifically:
Matt said:

"Didn't Rush Limbaugh just say what a lot of people were privately thinking?"

The post by the OP explains in more detail why that comment is frustrating to many people here.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 12:31 PM
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78. Does little matty lauer have a
fucking crystal ball? How the crap does he know what "a lot of people were thinking privately???
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bling bling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 12:45 PM
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79. All he did was reveal that HE was thinking it.
To insult someone like that who's done nothing but work to help other people is low. It's lower than low. People who see the worst in everyone and everything are almost always just projecting their hatred and anger at themselves outward. This is especially true of those such as Limbaugh and matty who suspect the worst in people who are living a decent and respectable life.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 01:08 PM
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80. Yeah, and they're such dumbshits they
know not to mess with Marty McFly!
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livingonearth Donating Member (451 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 09:03 PM
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54. Now each of the 3 major networks have shown bias.
Edited on Fri Oct-27-06 09:05 PM by livingonearth
ABC- with path to 9/11
NBC- with Lauer's little remark.

And also...

CBS- for changing the context of Limbaugh's dittocam video the other night when Micheal J. Fox was being interviewed by Katie Couric.

Did anyone notice how CBS played two clips of Rush out of order? First, they showed Rush saying "He's either acting, or off his meds". Then, after that, they showed the clip of his mocking gestures, in which he said "it's purely an act". That's not the true order of how it happened! I know because I heard Rush on Monday when this all started. The mocking and "purely an act" accusation came well before the "He's either acting, or off his meds", which was almost given as a side remark. It was not as if Limbaugh was merely speculating that Micheal J. might be off his meds. Limbaugh clearly wanted his audience to think Fox was being disingenuous. CBS changed the entire context by rearranging these two clips.

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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 10:55 PM
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56. K&R, BobcatJH.
:kick:
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 11:12 AM
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62. Outstanding post Bobcat,
I totally agree, it's tools like Lauer that legitimize the fascist thinking of Limbaugh to the general populace. Thanks for posting

Kicked too late to recommend

:kick:
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TexasEditor Donating Member (286 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 11:20 AM
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63. I'm surprised he's got time to think of such things...
Edited on Sat Oct-28-06 11:20 AM by TexasEditor
He's always ready to hit on any female within reach.
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scarface2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 11:42 AM
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67. matt lauer is a piece of shit!
fuck him!!
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 03:44 PM
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69. What an amazing post
>You should be ashamed of yourself.<

Amen and amen.
Matt Lauer is a disgrace, and should be shamed for his bigotry against those with chronic illness.

Julie
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 04:52 PM
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70. Spoken like a true Ohioan! You make me proud of my home state!
Thank you for saying what needed to be said.
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 05:08 PM
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71. Damn Straight!
Good rant!!



(I hope you sent/send it to Lauer :) ).
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 05:54 PM
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72. That is so revolting
I don't know whether 'many people were thinking this' or not; but whipping up hatred is an evil thing to do.

To me, perhaps the most fundamental difference between a Thatcherite/Republican on the one side and a moderate, liberal or leftist on the other is that the former starts out with a suspicious attitude towards anyone who has any problems or weaknesses that might require help - whether these be physical, financial, or other. The assumption is that, unless it can be proved otherwise, the person with the problem is faking it, exaggerating it, or using it unjustifiably to demand sympathy or special favours. A liberal, while aware that occasionally a person may fake their needs or problems for some form of gain (just as they may commit any other crime), is inclined to regard a person's needs or problems as genuine unless proven otherwise; while the Thatcherite/Republican regards them as non-genuine until proved genuine. At the extreme, this can degenerate into an attitude that even 'genuine' problems and disabilities can be justifiably sneered at; that to demand otherwise is 'political correctness' and that 'successful' people don't owe anything to those who are struggling, or experiencing misfortunes.

On both a personal and political level, I find this sort of attitude as nasty and hurtful as one can get!
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 09:08 PM
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73. Check this out.
Just a little vid I mad for youtube of Rush Limpballs dancing to New Numa.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Af_x2VHtXfE

Dance fat man! Dance!
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montana500 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 01:18 AM
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74. That is awesome. Thx. NM
nm
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NBachers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 01:26 AM
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76. Let's Face It-
Edited on Sun Oct-29-06 01:40 AM by NBachers
"Asshole" fits with "Republican" like "stink" fits with "shit."
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